So I read Buu originally attacked in Age 774 in the main timeline.
Future Cell killed in 788
788-795 Dabra and Babidi return to earth to release Buu having spent "over 10 years to gather energy for Buu"
795-796 Black attacks he and Future Zamasu are destroyed with the entire timeline. Trunks having gone back from age 796 for assistance.
Trunks his battle with Dabra was "a few years ago" lets say he means 5 tops. So 791 say.
If they picked up the Ball in 774 the earliest they could have attacked working backwards from Trunks statement would be like 17 years.
It sorta seems like it has to be a lot more than "over ten" or a lot more then "a few" from either direction.
How does anyone else square this? Who's underselling the time gap, Babidi or Trunks.
Or is there some reason why Babidi wouldn't attempt to gather energy for like 1-12 years then spend "over ten" doing it?
Buu hatching timeline discrepancy?
Re: Buu hatching timeline discrepancy?
Maybe Babidi was hoping to amass more subordinates before launching an attack? Earth in Trunks' timeline is a desolate husk of what it was in the Buu arc we're familiar with. Energy necessary for the releasing of Buu is going to be in short supply there. Who knows? Could they have somehow felt Cell's power when he charged his Kamehameha to destroy the Solar System and that's what prompted them to give Earth a closer inspection? Such a pretence wouldn't be consistent with their astonishment at Spopovich and Yamu acquiring more energy than they first anticipated.
The cyborgs killing most of the Z-Warriors and Earth's population did seem to have a ripple effect that forestalled their insertion onto the planet.
The cyborgs killing most of the Z-Warriors and Earth's population did seem to have a ripple effect that forestalled their insertion onto the planet.
Re: Buu hatching timeline discrepancy?
Doesn't seem like a stretch to me that Earth's reduced population in Trunks' timeline would lead to Bobbidi delaying his plans (either waiting for Earth to repopulate or gathering energy elsewhere).
Perhaps he also investigated during the Androids' reign and decided it would be best to bide time. The Kaiōshin doesn't seem to be able to track him until he starts making moves, so it's not as though he's pressed for time.
But yeah, Bobbid either begins gathering energy later, or it takes him more than 10 years, and he's merely giving an estimate. You only need to think about the ages of the respective Trunks when it happens. The one of the main series' timeline is 8, whereas Future Trunks is at least over 20 (17 when he arrives to kill Freeza, after which at least another eight months pass for him to refuel the time machine, and then more than three years pass between killing his own androids and Cell showing up to try to steal the time machine.) If Bobbidi started gathering energy at the same point in both timelines, Future Trunks would only be 17 during his fight with Dabra were exactly 10 years spent gathering energy, which we know isn't the case.
Either one seems plausible--either Bobbidi discreetly starting his plans at the same point as in the main timeline and rounding down, or starting later for various reasons.
Perhaps he also investigated during the Androids' reign and decided it would be best to bide time. The Kaiōshin doesn't seem to be able to track him until he starts making moves, so it's not as though he's pressed for time.
But yeah, Bobbid either begins gathering energy later, or it takes him more than 10 years, and he's merely giving an estimate. You only need to think about the ages of the respective Trunks when it happens. The one of the main series' timeline is 8, whereas Future Trunks is at least over 20 (17 when he arrives to kill Freeza, after which at least another eight months pass for him to refuel the time machine, and then more than three years pass between killing his own androids and Cell showing up to try to steal the time machine.) If Bobbidi started gathering energy at the same point in both timelines, Future Trunks would only be 17 during his fight with Dabra were exactly 10 years spent gathering energy, which we know isn't the case.
Either one seems plausible--either Bobbidi discreetly starting his plans at the same point as in the main timeline and rounding down, or starting later for various reasons.
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Re: Buu hatching timeline discrepancy?
1) ALL of the Earth warriors were killed off except for Trunks, so Future Babidi did not have huge energy batteries at his disposal, he was forced to rely only on the fodder earthlings like the civilians and soldiers (who obviously have minimal amounts of energy).
2) The Androids wiped out countless cities, which means that millions upon millions of people were killed, thus further reducing the amount of energy Babidi had at his disposal.
That's why it took them a lot more years to gather energy for Buu.
2) The Androids wiped out countless cities, which means that millions upon millions of people were killed, thus further reducing the amount of energy Babidi had at his disposal.
That's why it took them a lot more years to gather energy for Buu.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with ToyotaroAt his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Re: Buu hatching timeline discrepancy?
Right but he would have come for the egg in 774, he originally sent two humans to gather energy, they got nearly half from Gohan and got the rest from Gohan fighting Dabra and Goku and Vegeta fighting each other.SupremeKai25 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:53 am 1) ALL of the Earth warriors were killed off except for Trunks, so Future Babidi did not have huge energy batteries at his disposal, he was forced to rely only on the fodder earthlings like the civilians and soldiers (who obviously have minimal amounts of energy).
2) The Androids wiped out countless cities, which means that millions upon millions of people were killed, thus further reducing the amount of energy Babidi had at his disposal.
That's why it took them a lot more years to gather energy for Buu.
If he left earth because it was partially depopulated he would have done the same in the future, but that makes it more then reasonable to refer to 10 years. There's no reason for them to arrive later to pick up the egg because the butterfly effect probably wouldn't ripple out into space like that... So yeah I feel like one of them is exaggerating but it doesn't ruin the integrity of the story just by one phrase being innacurate...