Yuli Ban wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:40 pmThe Mortal Kombat devs were massive fans of kung fu and wuxia— MK itself is basically a big love letter to Big Trouble in Little China, One Armed Boxer, and Enter the Dragon.
To be more specific, John Tobias (one of the original co-creators of the franchise alongside Ed Boon) was the big Wuxia fanboy of the original MK dev team. To this day he still cites the genre by name (including specific works like Swordsman/SPW, Zu Warriors, etc. alongside the more glaringly obvious examples like Big Trouble in Little China, Enter the Dragon, Bloodsport, and so on) as massive influences on the series' style and direction, whereas Ed Boon was always more influenced by Western Superhero comics (ironically Tobias' own art style had a very distinct classic Western Superhero Comic flavor to it).
This is how you get characters like Sindel (who's moves and look are heavily taken from wuxia characters like Lian Nichang), and Kabal (who's moves were partly inspired by The Flash, and who's look comes straight out of Mad Max), all mixing it up together in a series that has always had a very heavy "East Meets West" sort of tone to it: which itself meshed perfectly with where the overall trends of Wuxia as a genre was at that point in the early 90s even in its native Asian territories anyhow (something which Tobias at least was almost certainly consciously aware of).
Arian wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:27 pmbut very interesting that they referenced Dragon Ball seamlessly here. Like, before it was even a cultural phenomenon.
Been having to say this way, WAY too much, but Dragon Ball was ALWAYS a
global phenomenon from day one. Global, as in including here in North America where even thought it was more of a cult hit than a mainstream hit at that point (early-early 90s), it was still known and had a readily visible presence to anyone at that time who had any kind of a finger dipped into the geek cultural waters of that period.
Just because YOU GUYS (in a broad, general sense here in this forum) were either not born yet, or were sheltered grade school children without any connection to wider cultural trends outside your immediate surroundings, does not mean that the rest of the country was also in the same boat as you back then.
Yuli Ban wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:18 pm
It's kinda close, but the closest we'll ever get to a live action Dragon Ball done competently is this Taiwanese movie called
Child of Peach, based off the Momotaro myth (which is already very similar to Goku's story). Tonally and stylistically it's so close it's pretty much just a Legally-Not-Dragon Ball film.
Did a quick rundown of the Peach trilogy all the way back in the original Wuxia thread. Those movies are in DESPERATE need of some kind of proper restoration/remaster, because those really are about as DEAD THE FUCK ON
perfect a translation of Dragon Ball's general tone, style, and creative energy as you're probably ever going to see in a live action movie (
way more so even than the oft-cited Kung Fu Hustle). "Legally-Not-Dragon Ball film" is about as perfect a description as you can get of it, all the way down to the young, naive, wild mountain boy/martial arts prodigy protagonist played by a female actress.
http://80s90sdragonballart.tumblr.com/
Kunzait's Wuxia Thread
Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.