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Funny unknown tidbit

Post by Kevasbsh » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:01 pm

One of the worst fighting game of all time , Kasumi Ninja published by Atari Corporation for the Atari Jaguar has Akira Toriyama's name in the special thanks credits. After further investigation , I found that the lead tester's name is "Son Goku".


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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by Arian » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:27 pm

Ah yes, the game with the Scottish man with the gaping flame vagina. Good times.

Makes me want to watch the AVGN Jaguar episode more than anything honestly, but very interesting that they referenced Dragon Ball seamlessly here. Like, before it was even a cultural phenomenon.

EDIT: Just noticed that Fa Fa Flowley and Howard Stern are on the list too. Based.
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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:12 am

Interesting how these little DB references were inserted into a garbage Mortal Kombat clone of all things. The more you know!!!
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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by Yuli Ban » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:40 pm

Arian wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:27 pm Ah yes, the game with the Scottish man with the gaping flame vagina. Good times.

Makes me want to watch the AVGN Jaguar episode more than anything honestly, but very interesting that they referenced Dragon Ball seamlessly here. Like, before it was even a cultural phenomenon.

EDIT: Just noticed that Fa Fa Flowley and Howard Stern are on the list too. Based.
The Mortal Kombat devs were massive fans of kung fu and wuxia— MK itself is basically a big love letter to Big Trouble in Little China, One Armed Boxer, and Enter the Dragon.

At that point in time, Dragon Ball was already well known as a crazily popular mythical kung fu cartoon in Japan, so it was known to kung fu fans in America.

It's only been in the past 20 years that DBZ has been better known as a "shonen" show due to the misconception of shonen as a genre. Before then, anime wasn't marketed as a unified block with its own culture, so it was more common to look for shows more along the lines of genre.
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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by MrSatan2099 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:24 pm

Yuli Ban wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:40 pm
Arian wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:27 pm Ah yes, the game with the Scottish man with the gaping flame vagina. Good times.

Makes me want to watch the AVGN Jaguar episode more than anything honestly, but very interesting that they referenced Dragon Ball seamlessly here. Like, before it was even a cultural phenomenon.

EDIT: Just noticed that Fa Fa Flowley and Howard Stern are on the list too. Based.
The Mortal Kombat devs were massive fans of kung fu and wuxia— MK itself is basically a big love letter to Big Trouble in Little China, One Armed Boxer, and Enter the Dragon.

At that point in time, Dragon Ball was already well known as a crazily popular mythical kung fu cartoon in Japan, so it was known to kung fu fans in America.

It's only been in the past 20 years that DBZ has been better known as a "shonen" show due to the misconception of shonen as a genre. Before then, anime wasn't marketed as a unified block with its own culture, so it was more common to look for shows more along the lines of genre.
I've always kind of thought that Big Trouble in Little China is kind of the closest thing tonally we might ever get to a live action Dragon Ball. Egg Shen is a pretty great Roshi.

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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by Yuli Ban » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:18 pm

It's kinda close, but the closest we'll ever get to a live action Dragon Ball done competently is this Taiwanese movie called Child of Peach, based off the Momotaro myth (which is already very similar to Goku's story). Tonally and stylistically it's so close it's pretty much just a Legally-Not-Dragon Ball film.
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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by Kunzait_83 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm

Yuli Ban wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:40 pmThe Mortal Kombat devs were massive fans of kung fu and wuxia— MK itself is basically a big love letter to Big Trouble in Little China, One Armed Boxer, and Enter the Dragon.
To be more specific, John Tobias (one of the original co-creators of the franchise alongside Ed Boon) was the big Wuxia fanboy of the original MK dev team. To this day he still cites the genre by name (including specific works like Swordsman/SPW, Zu Warriors, etc. alongside the more glaringly obvious examples like Big Trouble in Little China, Enter the Dragon, Bloodsport, and so on) as massive influences on the series' style and direction, whereas Ed Boon was always more influenced by Western Superhero comics (ironically Tobias' own art style had a very distinct classic Western Superhero Comic flavor to it).

This is how you get characters like Sindel (who's moves and look are heavily taken from wuxia characters like Lian Nichang), and Kabal (who's moves were partly inspired by The Flash, and who's look comes straight out of Mad Max), all mixing it up together in a series that has always had a very heavy "East Meets West" sort of tone to it: which itself meshed perfectly with where the overall trends of Wuxia as a genre was at that point in the early 90s even in its native Asian territories anyhow (something which Tobias at least was almost certainly consciously aware of).

Arian wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:27 pmbut very interesting that they referenced Dragon Ball seamlessly here. Like, before it was even a cultural phenomenon.
Been having to say this way, WAY too much, but Dragon Ball was ALWAYS a global phenomenon from day one. Global, as in including here in North America where even thought it was more of a cult hit than a mainstream hit at that point (early-early 90s), it was still known and had a readily visible presence to anyone at that time who had any kind of a finger dipped into the geek cultural waters of that period.

Just because YOU GUYS (in a broad, general sense here in this forum) were either not born yet, or were sheltered grade school children without any connection to wider cultural trends outside your immediate surroundings, does not mean that the rest of the country was also in the same boat as you back then.

Yuli Ban wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:18 pm It's kinda close, but the closest we'll ever get to a live action Dragon Ball done competently is this Taiwanese movie called Child of Peach, based off the Momotaro myth (which is already very similar to Goku's story). Tonally and stylistically it's so close it's pretty much just a Legally-Not-Dragon Ball film.
Did a quick rundown of the Peach trilogy all the way back in the original Wuxia thread. Those movies are in DESPERATE need of some kind of proper restoration/remaster, because those really are about as DEAD THE FUCK ON perfect a translation of Dragon Ball's general tone, style, and creative energy as you're probably ever going to see in a live action movie (way more so even than the oft-cited Kung Fu Hustle). "Legally-Not-Dragon Ball film" is about as perfect a description as you can get of it, all the way down to the young, naive, wild mountain boy/martial arts prodigy protagonist played by a female actress.
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Re: Funny unknown tidbit

Post by LoganForkHands73 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:37 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm This is how you get characters like Sindel (who's moves and look are heavily taken from wuxia characters like Lian Nichang), and Kabal (who's moves were partly inspired by The Flash, and who's look comes straight out of Mad Max), all mixing it up together in a series that has always had a very heavy "East Meets West" sort of tone to it: which itself meshed perfectly with where the overall trends of Wuxia as a genre was at that point in the early 90s even in its native Asian territories anyhow (something which Tobias at least was almost certainly consciously aware of).
Man, if there's one aspect of the Mortal Kombat franchise that I feel has been missing for a while now, it's that grisly cultural mash-up aesthetic. While the newer games are mechanically sounder, they pretty much only emphasise Western stuff now, mainly action movie tropes (the only real exception being Kung Lao's Jet Li inspired fighting style in the latest game). That whole shamelessly exploitative, "here's a horrific concoction of everything your parents wouldn't want you to see" feel is barely there anymore, even though fatalities are gorier than ever. Not that I don't get a kick out of seeing the Terminator smash Spawn's head in but I'd kill for some more properly appropriated pig-wuxia designs to balance it out. Tobias leaving Midway was a huge loss in many ways.

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