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What's this clip from?

Post by Taizo » Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:50 pm

https://youtu.be/hvYIWO-y_YE
I don't remember this at all. Was it in the anime? Or maybe coolers revenge?

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by theherodjl » Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:12 pm

I believe that was what Vegeta was up to while the Garlic Jr saga was happening so it's an anime filler scene.
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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by BWri » Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:31 pm

theherodjl wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:12 pm I believe that was what Vegeta was up to while the Garlic Jr saga was happening so it's an anime filler scene.
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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by PurestEvil » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:12 pm

This and a few other clips of Vegeta in space were from the Garlic Jr saga (episodes 108-118)
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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by MrSatan2099 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm

I'm a fan of some filler, but I always found this stuff to be especially awkward. Filler, in an all filler arc, that has absolutely nothing to do with A-plot. It's so far removed that is barely even seems real.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by Bridgeman » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:09 am

MrSatan2099 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm I'm a fan of some filler, but I always found this stuff to be especially awkward. Filler, in an all filler arc, that has absolutely nothing to do with A-plot. It's so far removed that is barely even seems real.
Really? I thought these scenes were really cool as a kid. Let's be real, if Vegeta was present on Earth during the Garlic Jr. saga he would've shitstomped everyone, and this gave a nice explanation of what he was up to. It culminates in him thinking he found Goku, but it seems like Goku barely slipped through his fingers. I doubt Toei knew what they were doing, but it actually lines up pretty nicely if you think of it as Goku practicing Instant Transmission.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:15 am

MrSatan2099 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm I'm a fan of some filler, but I always found this stuff to be especially awkward. Filler, in an all filler arc, that has absolutely nothing to do with A-plot. It's so far removed that is barely even seems real.
It is funny how all of Vegeta’s scenes can be cut out and you’ll lose nothing . They don’t impact the A plot. They don’t impact any future canon events. They just exist in a bubble to remind you Vegeta exist and isn’t leaving the series anytime soon. As if Japanese fans reading the manga didn’t know he was still sticking around.


They could have at least showed him obtained Super Saiyan or something.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by Koitsukai » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:21 am

Now I need to watch the original episode to see if Geets actually calls that guy a dodo bird. After I laugh at the youtube comment wondering why Freeza never opened his own zoo.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by Bridgeman » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:27 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:15 am
MrSatan2099 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm I'm a fan of some filler, but I always found this stuff to be especially awkward. Filler, in an all filler arc, that has absolutely nothing to do with A-plot. It's so far removed that is barely even seems real.
It is funny how all of Vegeta’s scenes can be cut out and you’ll lose nothing . They don’t impact the A plot. They don’t impact any future canon events. They just exist in a bubble to remind you Vegeta exist and isn’t leaving the series anytime soon. As if Japanese fans reading the manga didn’t know he was still sticking around.


They could have at least showed him obtained Super Saiyan or something.
This goes for all anime-only scenes, as well manga scenes extended in the anime. The manga's job is to move the plot along in a good tempo. The anime's job is to pad out the manga material so they can make an anime longer than 167 episodes.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:32 am

Bridgeman wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:27 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:15 am
MrSatan2099 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm I'm a fan of some filler, but I always found this stuff to be especially awkward. Filler, in an all filler arc, that has absolutely nothing to do with A-plot. It's so far removed that is barely even seems real.
It is funny how all of Vegeta’s scenes can be cut out and you’ll lose nothing . They don’t impact the A plot. They don’t impact any future canon events. They just exist in a bubble to remind you Vegeta exist and isn’t leaving the series anytime soon. As if Japanese fans reading the manga didn’t know he was still sticking around.


They could have at least showed him obtained Super Saiyan or something.
This goes for all anime-only scenes, as well manga scenes extended in the anime. The manga's job is to move the plot along in a good tempo. The anime's job is to pad out the manga material so they can make an anime longer than 167 episodes.
Not really no. There are plenty of anime only scenes that help elaborate or expand on the material without feeling superfluous.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by Bridgeman » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:36 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:32 am
Bridgeman wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:27 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:15 am

It is funny how all of Vegeta’s scenes can be cut out and you’ll lose nothing . They don’t impact the A plot. They don’t impact any future canon events. They just exist in a bubble to remind you Vegeta exist and isn’t leaving the series anytime soon. As if Japanese fans reading the manga didn’t know he was still sticking around.


They could have at least showed him obtained Super Saiyan or something.
This goes for all anime-only scenes, as well manga scenes extended in the anime. The manga's job is to move the plot along in a good tempo. The anime's job is to pad out the manga material so they can make an anime longer than 167 episodes.
Not really no. There are plenty of anime only scenes that help elaborate or expand on the material without feeling superfluous.
Could you name a few? Most that I can think of are mostly pointless. This goes for all of Bulma's solo scenes on Namek, Frieza's flashback of how he killed King Vegeta (which actually contradicts Toei's own material), Goku's "vision" of Bardock & King Vegeta, people he'd never seen before, etc.

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:44 am

Bridgeman wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:36 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:32 am
Bridgeman wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:27 am

This goes for all anime-only scenes, as well manga scenes extended in the anime. The manga's job is to move the plot along in a good tempo. The anime's job is to pad out the manga material so they can make an anime longer than 167 episodes.
Not really no. There are plenty of anime only scenes that help elaborate or expand on the material without feeling superfluous.
Could you name a few? Most that I can think of are mostly pointless. This goes for all of Bulma's solo scenes on Namek, Frieza's flashback of how he killed King Vegeta (which actually contradicts Toei's own material), Goku's "vision" of Bardock & King Vegeta, people he'd never seen before, etc.
Pretty much all of Pilaf and the gang’s anime only material in the first arc so they don’t feel like they came out of nowhere like in the manga

Expansion on Piccolo Daimao’s clan killing martial artist the viewer are familiar with.


Expanding on Gohan’s training with Piccolo for the Saiyans so we actually see him grow as a person instead of just flip a switch like in the manga

Also expanding on the Z warriors training and reintroduction in the Saiyan arc so they don’t feel like cannon fodder

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Re: What's this clip from?

Post by Bridgeman » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:50 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:44 am
Bridgeman wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:36 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:32 am

Not really no. There are plenty of anime only scenes that help elaborate or expand on the material without feeling superfluous.
Could you name a few? Most that I can think of are mostly pointless. This goes for all of Bulma's solo scenes on Namek, Frieza's flashback of how he killed King Vegeta (which actually contradicts Toei's own material), Goku's "vision" of Bardock & King Vegeta, people he'd never seen before, etc.
Pretty much all of Pilaf and the gang’s anime only material in the first arc so they don’t feel like they came out of nowhere like in the manga

Expansion on Piccolo Daimao’s clan killing martial artist the viewer are familiar with.


Expanding on Gohan’s training with Piccolo for the Saiyans so we actually see him grow as a person instead of just flip a switch like in the manga

Also expanding on the Z warriors training and reintroduction in the Saiyan arc so they don’t feel like cannon fodder
I mostly agree with that, but still, some of those like the whole pendulum room thing only serve to further confuse the overarching continuity, which Toriyama made confusing enough as it is already.

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