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Rafa Fast
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by Rafa Fast » Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:14 pm
So, after 2 years, I've rewatched DB Movie 1 again (a.k.a Curse of the Blood Rubies) and I just forgot that Pansy isn't Suno, so what's the big deal with this?
They do have a identical design, same size, same colors (perhaps I think Pansy's eyes are fully black), but different clothes, different voice actress...
But their mothers and back-stories are very similar
So what's up with these two? Suno came first obviously, but why making pretty much a copy of she, with different name and voice actress for the movie? Was it a mistake? Toriyama didn't let they use her original name for the movie? Is there any official source explaining this? Character guide? Daizenshuu?

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by PurestEvil » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:23 pm
I always assumed the TOEI creative department was slacking on the day they were supposed to design the little girl character
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by Makaioshin » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm
PurestEvil wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:23 pm
I always assumed the TOEI creative department was slacking on the day they were supposed to design the little girl character
Toriyama provided the
design for Pansy .
As for any explanations, there isn't anything much to say about her. She is just a character based on Suno in both appearance and role in the story. If you put glasses on her she would end up looking a lot like Arale.
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by PurestEvil » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:19 pm
Makaioshin wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm
PurestEvil wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:23 pm
I always assumed the TOEI creative department was slacking on the day they were supposed to design the little girl character
Toriyama provided the
design for Pansy .
Why am I not surprised…

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by Rafa Fast » Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:23 pm
Makaioshin wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm
Toriyama provided the
design for Pansy .
As for any explanations, there isn't anything much to say about her. She is just a character based on Suno in both appearance and role in the story. If you put glasses on her she would end up looking a lot like Arale.
I see, thanks a lot for that, now I can assume that it was probably Toei's fault, while Suno's hair is originally blonde, in animations and games she is blaze orange, and we can clearly see in Tori's artwork that Pansy's hair is actually pure red, magenta, whatever, in the final movie, she is...blaze orange? They really messed it up, fortunately it seems that Pansy's eyes were kept dark, but at this point they've already made us think that she is the movie continuity Suno
(And I disagree about Arale, she does have her unique traits)
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by Makaioshin » Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:02 am
Rafa Fast wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:23 pm
I see, thanks a lot for that, now I can assume that it was probably Toei's fault, while Suno's hair is originally blonde, in animations and games she is blaze orange, and we can clearly see in Tori's artwork that Pansy's hair is actually pure red, magenta, whatever, in the final movie, she is...blaze orange? They really messed it up, fortunately it seems that Pansy's eyes were kept dark, but at this point they've already made us think that she is the movie continuity Suno
(And I disagree about Arale, she does have her unique traits)
She just has red hair in the manga in her first appearance which happened to be one of the chapters he used color. He is just prone to reusing designs. But also the story is written for her to just stand in for the same role as Suno anyway so it works out.