If GT is ever to be redone, Baby and Dr. Myuu should NOT be related to each other!

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If GT is ever to be redone, Baby and Dr. Myuu should NOT be related to each other!

Post by Geraldo » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:51 am

In case Dragon Ball GT will ever be redone concept-wise, I would like the executives to split Baby from Dr. Myuu and his Machine Mutants project.

Myuu should be all for his project of conquering the universe with his "superior beings", and perhaps convert those whom he finds worthy of getting the upgrade into such beings; while Baby should be the same as he was (a parasitic Tsufurjin who's dedicated to his core of bringing the Saiyans and their friends/supporters down in his revenge) only that his creator/care taker will be Dr. Lychee.

Imagine if the Baby Saga will end with Beerus stepping in and stopping him from destroying Goku, Vegeta, and their families and order him to go on and move to the revived Planet Plant (Lychee managed to use the Dragon Balls and revive both the planet and the Tuffles); but Baby is not playing by anyone's rules, he will be a lurking enemy waiting for his time to act, just like Frieza. We need a broader range of recurring villains like in the Batman franchise.

The power levels chains should be as follows:
Machine Mutants
  • 1. Dr. Myuu.
    2. General Rildo - Also 2nd in command.
    3. Luud.
    4. Sigma Force Canon.
    5. Commander Nezi - 3rd in command.
    6. Mutchy - 5th in command.
    7. Sigma Force members.
    8. Mutchy-Mutchy.
    9. Leon.
    10. Para Para Brothers = Each is 10 times stronger than Ginyu was originally.
    11. Doll Taki - 4th in command due to intelligence, but weaker than Nappa.
Tuffles
  • 1. Baby (there's no need for a "Baby Vegeta" if you ask me, as Baby will find the Saiyans "inferior lifeforms" he despises, but a need for a "Baby Hatchiyack", far stronger than anything Dragon Ball Super had provided us with; yes, including Cell Max).
    2. Hatchiyack.
    3. Dr. Lychee - 2nd in command.
    4. Lychee's team of "phantom soldiers" (who aren't copies of former foes, but OG "dark matter" created cyborgs who can nullify ki blasts into black holes).
    5. Godgardons - Each is strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku, Gohan and Vegeta.
    6. Lychee's mutants (the goofy ones from the original incarnation, only strong enough to fight the Saiyans in their base forms).

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Re: If GT is ever to be redone, Baby and Dr. Myuu should NOT be related to each other!

Post by TheFallenProfit » Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:34 pm

Baby and Myuu are fine as is.

This is just reinventing the wheel, it doesn't need to happen, especially getting rid of Baby Vegeta. So much narrative and thematic ties thrown away by doing that.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:25 pm

The whole plot twist with the Black Star Dragon Ball in Myuu's head was a terrible plot hole. That's one thing that should be written out.
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Post by Geraldo » Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:26 am

There's no need to tie a mad scientist who's end goal is to let his breed of creations conquer and subdue the universe AND/WITH a race remnants who are out for revenge against the Saiyans alone. The Tsufurjin/Tuffles don't have universal control desires.

Also, they better change Dr. Myuu's design to look distinguished from the alien carbon copy of Dr. Gero.

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Re: If GT is ever to be redone, Baby and Dr. Myuu should NOT be related to each other!

Post by Geraldo » Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:50 am

I like to think that General Rildo would eventually will have to merge (after already absorbing the parts of the four defeated members who were the Sigma Force Canon) with Dr. Myuu to create a more deadly foe than merging with Planet M-2 itself as such occasions were already made canon by Infinite Zamasu who became one with reality itself and moro who merged with the Earth.

Also, I want a one solid homogeneous structured story of the Tsufurjins' history and technology (the Scouters were originally theirs but now we have Kikono whose pride is being credited as their creator over the older Scout-Scopes which were probably Gichamu's invention) and don't think that the Baby Saga should end with the Tsufurjins getting the short end of the stick. Goku and Vegeta can use the Dragon Balls to revive both Planet Plant and the good Tsufurjins in it. I bet they know by now that this planet wasn't meant for the invading Saiyans to steal through the acts of war and exploit.

Baby should not take over Vegeta's body, as it will ruin his character. Just think of how lame will it be if the victim of a genocide whose sole purpose is to take revenge for his fallen race, would look to steal the body of the aggressor's last royalty to carry it out. It makes his whole story cheap and dwindle his pain. Would you see a Jew/Gypsy/African descent/Gay/Disabled Person wishes to avenge the horrors of World War II by entering hitler's body and act against the axis? Hell no.

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Re: If GT is ever to be redone, Baby and Dr. Myuu should NOT be related to each other!

Post by Saiya6Cit » Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:39 pm

Also, I want a one solid homogeneous structured story of the Tsufurjins' history and technology (the Scouters were originally theirs but now we have Kikono whose pride is being credited as their creator over the older Scout-Scopes which were probably Gichamu's invention) and don't think that the Baby Saga should end with the Tsufurjins getting the short end of the stick. Goku and Vegeta can use the Dragon Balls to revive both Planet Plant and the good Tsufurjins in it. I bet they know by now that this planet wasn't meant for the invading Saiyans to steal through the acts of war and exploit.
I am with you on that one. One of the coolest things on GT was bringing back the tsufurujin.

Sadly Toriyama has never cared about them. It is not even clear how come they shared the planet with the saiyans. If the planet was named Vegeta it means the saiyans were there first. Then the Tsufur came in and could not repair their ship or they were running away from their own planet (again no one has cleared that up) and at some point decided to merge they two races for their mutual benefit and then they were conquered by freezer.

But I have heared people who say it was the tsufur planet and it was the saiyans who arrived to conquer it. Which to me it makes no sense because can you really picture these ape-like beings inventing space travel?

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