When it comes to age... Bulma's parents exist.
Never really bothered to think much about it at that point :p
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When it comes to age... Bulma's parents exist.
Toriyama says they are at least seventy at the time of Movie 14. That would mean they were around twenty-five whey they had Bulma. But Tights exists, so they must be a bit older than that.GhostEmperorX wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:54 pmWhen it comes to age... Bulma's parents exist.
Never really bothered to think much about it at that point :p
Well I meant it more in the sense of their appearance than anything else.Grimlock wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:04 am Toriyama says they are at least seventy at the time of Movie 14. That would mean they were around twenty-five whey they had Bulma. But Tights exists, so they must be a bit older than that.
Why is it that people categorize BoG and RoF as continuing from the line of the non-canon Z movies? Never understood this, the demarcation line seems pretty clearly drawn to me (they also don't have over the top titles like 2-13).Movie 14
They're still the 14th and 15th Z movies *shrug*GhostEmperorX wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:43 am
Why is it that people categorize BoG and RoF as continuing from the line of the non-canon Z movies? Never understood this, the demarcation line seems pretty clearly drawn to me (they also don't have over the top titles like 2-13).
While this is true, it just has this strange effect of putting them in the same group as though they were actually alike. There's also the actual titles not being as hard to remember or as different between EN and JP as the previous 13 (actually 12 because the first Z movie is just called "Dragon Ball Z" in JP without any episode title-esque add-ons).MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:54 am They're still the 14th and 15th Z movies *shrug*
It's not like canon and non-canon has ever been a thing Toei has ever concerned themselves with. The 13 Z movies exist when it's convenient (video games, when Toei needs original material for the anime) and de-exist when its convenient (when they're following Toriyama's story)
From a broader narrative...they are the next in line? In-universe continuity isn't the only way to look at things.GhostEmperorX wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:41 pmWhile this is true, it just has this strange effect of putting them in the same group as though they were actually alike. There's also the actual titles not being as hard to remember or as different between EN and JP as the previous 13 (actually 12 because the first Z movie is just called "Dragon Ball Z" in JP without any episode title-esque add-ons).MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:54 am They're still the 14th and 15th Z movies *shrug*
It's not like canon and non-canon has ever been a thing Toei has ever concerned themselves with. The 13 Z movies exist when it's convenient (video games, when Toei needs original material for the anime) and de-exist when its convenient (when they're following Toriyama's story)
At least that's how it comes off personally with the "next in line" type of speaking.
At which point it just boils down to the fact that they're movies without regarding any other details.
That's one of the questions we ask out of life. I mean, why is it that people are so obsessed with this imbecilic bullshit that is "canon"? Nevertheless, you got your answer. After "Dragon Ball Z: Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Won’t Do it, Who Will?", the thirteenth Dragon Ball Z movie, comes "Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods", making it the fourteenth Dragon Ball Z movie. I don't think I'll ever get my answer, though.GhostEmperorX wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:43 amWhy is it that people categorize BoG and RoF as continuing from the line of the non-canon Z movies? Never understood this, the demarcation line seems pretty clearly drawn to me (they also don't have over the top titles like 2-13).
Not primarily speaking as a participant to that whole question. It's just a convenient label to use, but even without it one can see that they're different kinds of movies. Is there any other better way to categorize them then if this one isn't to everyone's liking?
Can Dragon Ball really change at this point though? I mean the original series for all intents and purpose ended in 1995. As far as Toriyama was concerned It wasn't ever supposed to get a new serialization in the first place. The fact that this happened at all is kinda shocking.JulieYBM wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:36 pm I think that it's a regurgitating effect. Prior generations of fans are introducing the work to the current generation, and as a result the series has continued. I don't know how much longer that will last, unless Dragon Ball changes, because the world and art surrounding Dragon Ball are always changing. Newer works have learned from older works, so if older works are to remain any sort of relevant they will also have to learn from newer works, which is hardly something new for Dragon Ball considering its wide-range of different influences over the course of it's initial eleven year serialization.
As a franchise? Change is inevitable, so yes, Dragon Ball has, can and will continue to change, both in commercial and fandom hands.BootyCheeksJohnson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:49 amCan Dragon Ball really change at this point though? I mean the original series for all intents and purpose ended in 1995. As far as Toriyama was concerned It wasn't ever supposed to get a new serialization in the first place. The fact that this happened at all is kinda shocking.JulieYBM wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:36 pm I think that it's a regurgitating effect. Prior generations of fans are introducing the work to the current generation, and as a result the series has continued. I don't know how much longer that will last, unless Dragon Ball changes, because the world and art surrounding Dragon Ball are always changing. Newer works have learned from older works, so if older works are to remain any sort of relevant they will also have to learn from newer works, which is hardly something new for Dragon Ball considering its wide-range of different influences over the course of it's initial eleven year serialization.
If it truly can change then I'm open to it, but the only story to come out of this revival that really pushed the franchise into completely new territory was Battle of Gods. And, we're 10 years removed from that now.
It will last a pretty long time. Even beyond our natural lives. I'm moreso talking from an American point of view. But 80s, 90s, and early-mid 2000s babies all grew up on Dragon Ball Z in some form. The Toonami Airings, Reruns, Video Games(Budokai 3 and Tenkaichi 3 are still popular to this day), DBZ Kai, BoG, RoF, and Dragon Ball Super all provided life to the series. We as hardcore fans might nitpick but casual fans aren't as picky. Now in the age of social media and the internet the lines of casual and hardcore fans have been blurred at times but that's another subject for another day.JulieYBM wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:36 pm I think that it's a regurgitating effect. Prior generations of fans are introducing the work to the current generation, and as a result the series has continued. I don't know how much longer that will last, unless Dragon Ball changes, because the world and art surrounding Dragon Ball are always changing. Newer works have learned from older works, so if older works are to remain any sort of relevant they will also have to learn from newer works, which is hardly something new for Dragon Ball considering its wide-range of different influences over the course of it's initial eleven year serialization.