Zamasu steals GT Kid Goku instead of DBS Goku

[super michael]

Let say for some reason Zamasu decides to travel into GT time line and steals GT Kid Goku body, how does that change the story of Goku Black.

GT Kid Goku body will be from when him and Majoob are in the tournament.

[SupremeKai25]

Mai's attempt to kill Black by dropping buildings on him probably would have worked this time.

[ZombieVito]

Black would get an ugly ass final transformation.

[MasenkoHA]

GT Goku Black would have gotten his ass kicked by Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Story over

[TobyS]

GT Goku Black would have gotten his ass kicked by Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Story over

Eh he already has some kinda God ki from his sould being that of a kais, hence going rose not blue.

This might actually allow him to stack Rose and 4 in a way heroes has always been accused of eventually wanting to do.

[ankokudaishogun]

This might actually allow him to stack Rose and 4 in a way heroes has always been accused of eventually wanting to do.

basically Rosé Full Power, then

[SupremeKai25]

This might actually allow him to stack Rose and 4 in a way heroes has always been accused of eventually wanting to do.

basically Rosé Full Power, then

Rosé full power is much stronger.

Even if you wanted to argue that SSB Goku = SS4 Goku via some strange Heroes/Videogame scaling, Rosé Full Power was still too much of a threat for SSB Goku AND Vegeta and it took SSB Evolved Gogeta to end him.

Rosé Full Power would still be way stronger than this hypothetical SS4 Black.

What is missing in this scenario is the most essential component for Black's evolution: a form with God ki. SS4 doesn't have God ki, so it would be pretty useless for Black.

[TobyS]

This might actually allow him to stack Rose and 4 in a way heroes has always been accused of eventually wanting to do.

basically Rosé Full Power, then

Rosé full power is much stronger.

Even if you wanted to argue that SSB Goku = SS4 Goku via some strange Heroes/Videogame scaling, Rosé Full Power was still too much of a threat for SSB Goku AND Vegeta and it took SSB Evolved Gogeta to end him.

Rosé Full Power would still be way stronger than this hypothetical SS4 Black.

What is missing in this scenario is the most essential component for Black's evolution: a form with God ki. SS4 doesn't have God ki, so it would be pretty useless for Black.

4 is only equal to blue because Xeno Goku is much stronger than base Super Goku and GT Goku, in his very first appearance he f's off and trains to his current limit with Trunks.

There's no reason why Rose4 Black couldn't also go full power on top of that. Even 1000+1 is bigger than 1000.

The only thing is we don't know yet if 4/God Fusions are even possible.

We did see Vegenks but that was before Trunks got God and Vegenks didn't use 4.

[super michael]

This might actually allow him to stack Rose and 4 in a way heroes has always been accused of eventually wanting to do.

basically Rosé Full Power, then

Rosé full power is much stronger.

Even if you wanted to argue that SSB Goku = SS4 Goku via some strange Heroes/Videogame scaling, Rosé Full Power was still too much of a threat for SSB Goku AND Vegeta and it took SSB Evolved Gogeta to end him.

Rosé Full Power would still be way stronger than this hypothetical SS4 Black.

What is missing in this scenario is the most essential component for Black's evolution: a form with God ki. SS4 doesn't have God ki, so it would be pretty useless for Black.

SSB = SSJ1 + SSJG
SSJ Rose = SSJ1 + God Ki

However imagine SSJ4 + God Ki. SSJ4 Limit break by getting ki from God user, that doesn't mean that he has God Ki.
Since Zamasu is a god, that would mean that SSJ4 would automatically have God Ki.

[ankokudaishogun]

I'm not sure Goku:Xeno is much stronger than Goku:GT, who himself as SS1 was already as strong as SS3 Goku Z (IIRC. Or was it in base?)

I do agree Goku:Xeno starting from a much higher base would explain SS4 being on the same level as Blue
...except the Gokus were always portrayed as matching in power in every form until Ultra Instinct


That said, going back to the topic title, nothing much would change.
Zamasu had to spend time adapting to Gokus' body anyway.
His worst case scenario in this instance would be having to wait a few years for Goku's body to grow up naturally because it cannot sustain his full power(cfr. Goku:GT and SS3).
And given he can travel(to unspecified degree) through time and timelines and probably space... what's the issue with asking any Divine Dragon to get him at full-aged body?


But it's more funny if he stays in the kid body for maximum Goten Black spics shenanigans.

[TobyS]

I'm not sure Goku:Xeno is much stronger than Goku:GT, who himself as SS1 was already as strong as SS3 Goku Z (IIRC. Or was it in base?)

I do agree Goku:Xeno starting from a much higher base would explain SS4 being on the same level as Blue
...except the Gokus were always portrayed as matching in power in every form until Ultra Instinct


That said, going back to the topic title, nothing much would change.
Zamasu had to spend time adapting to Gokus' body anyway.
His worst case scenario in this instance would be having to wait a few years for Goku's body to grow up naturally because it cannot sustain his full power(cfr. Goku:GT and SS3).
And given he can travel(to unspecified degree) through time and timelines and probably space... what's the issue with asking any Divine Dragon to get him at full-aged body?


But it's more funny if he stays in the kid body for maximum Goten Black spics shenanigans.

I mean after the first arc they both go through several training montages.

Keep in mind its ss4 limit breaker that super goku uses ui to overcome, not regular 4.

It seems like the same gap they started with is maintained just new forms added on top.

Xeno is stronger than GT, gogeta xeno was beating up fin gt gogeta absorbed. Not to mention super anime feats being greater than gt

[Trouser]

The story would be pretty much the same, but we'd get different designs for Goku Black and Merged Zamasu:

Super Saiyan Four Rose:

Spoiler:

Merged Zamasu:

Spoiler:

[Majin Buu]

Honestly, hearing all of Zamasu's racist and genocidal rhetoric coming out of Kid Goku's mouth could be genuinely creepy.

Or the idea could be used for laughs to take Zamasu down a peg (A pretentious narcissist like him is just begging for that treatment).

The idea in general is a more original spin on the whole "evil Goku" concept so either approach has the potential to be effective depending on the execution.