Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

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Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by Hulk10 » Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:36 pm

I'd like to believe that the latest upgrade to Super Saiyan 4; the Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker can be trained to be as powerful as Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego. However I doubt that will come to pass in any official media. So will we get to see another advancement of the Super Saiyan 4's power or in Dragon Ball Super Heroes anime and manga or is that just wishful thinking?
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by TobyS » Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:02 am

Hulk10 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:36 pm I'd like to believe that the latest upgrade to Super Saiyan 4; the Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker can be trained to be as powerful as Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego. However I doubt that will come to pass in any official media. So will we get to see another advancement of the Super Saiyan 4's power or in Dragon Ball Super Heroes anime and manga or is that just wishful thinking?
I don't think we need that in this arc, especially with his absorbed people being removed.

But it all depends on if there's a manga adaption of Divers or not, and if that incnreases or resets the scaling/stakes.

I guess they will have to have a new form eventually if the powers increase, unless they just fuse for every single fight.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:18 pm

TobyS wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:02 am
Hulk10 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:36 pm I'd like to believe that the latest upgrade to Super Saiyan 4; the Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker can be trained to be as powerful as Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego. However I doubt that will come to pass in any official media. So will we get to see another advancement of the Super Saiyan 4's power or in Dragon Ball Super Heroes anime and manga or is that just wishful thinking?
I don't think we need that in this arc, especially with his absorbed people being removed.

But it all depends on if there's a manga adaption of Divers or not, and if that incnreases or resets the scaling/stakes.

I guess they will have to have a new form eventually if the powers increase, unless they just fuse for every single fight.

Absorbed people? What are you talking about? Super Saiyan 4 doesn't absorb people.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by ankokudaishogun » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:34 pm

Thematically, Limit Break being the "definitive" Saiyan-based transformation that literally has no upper limits(like Vegeta likes to say about Saiyans) because it broke them, and thus being theoretically able to match any further power-up(given enough training), would be great.

Realistically, they are going to add more transformations because transformations sell.

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:53 pm

ankokudaishogun wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:34 pm Thematically, Limit Break being the "definitive" Saiyan-based transformation that literally has no upper limits(like Vegeta likes to say about Saiyans) because it broke them, and thus being theoretically able to match any further power-up(given enough training), would be great.

Realistically, they are going to add more transformations because transformations sell.
Yeah true. I worry though that I may not like the newer transformations from SSJ4.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by ankokudaishogun » Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:08 pm

I'd say the greatest risk is the new forms being uninspired\fan-art-y

I still think they should have used the other prototype design to the Elite and Berserker Avatars, so to have the Limit Break form being "personal"

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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by TobyS » Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:00 pm

Hulk10 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:18 pm
TobyS wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:02 am
Hulk10 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:36 pm I'd like to believe that the latest upgrade to Super Saiyan 4; the Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker can be trained to be as powerful as Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego. However I doubt that will come to pass in any official media. So will we get to see another advancement of the Super Saiyan 4's power or in Dragon Ball Super Heroes anime and manga or is that just wishful thinking?
I don't think we need that in this arc, especially with his absorbed people being removed.

But it all depends on if there's a manga adaption of Divers or not, and if that incnreases or resets the scaling/stakes.

I guess they will have to have a new form eventually if the powers increase, unless they just fuse for every single fight.

Absorbed people? What are you talking about? Super Saiyan 4 doesn't absorb people.
I'm talking about Ozzoto, I don't think they need a new form for him so it comes down to what divers does.
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Re: Super Saiyan 4 Upgrades

Post by Hulk10 » Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:52 pm

TobyS wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:00 pm
Hulk10 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:18 pm
TobyS wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:02 am

I don't think we need that in this arc, especially with his absorbed people being removed.

But it all depends on if there's a manga adaption of Divers or not, and if that incnreases or resets the scaling/stakes.

I guess they will have to have a new form eventually if the powers increase, unless they just fuse for every single fight.

Absorbed people? What are you talking about? Super Saiyan 4 doesn't absorb people.
I'm talking about Ozzoto, I don't think they need a new form for him so it comes down to what divers does.
Ah ok.
ankokudaishogun wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:08 pm I'd say the greatest risk is the new forms being uninspired\fan-art-y

I still think they should have used the other prototype design to the Elite and Berserker Avatars, so to have the Limit Break form being "personal"

What's wrong with fan art?
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