Will Vegetto Return?

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Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Almighty Majin » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:00 pm

Seeing as how fusion is a popular concept in this franchise and we got the return of Vegetto in Super, do you think we could get him in Daima? I mean consider this: Goku and Vegeta have seemingly been somewhat nerfed in their power by being miniaturized and Shin is around with the Potara earrings. It would not shock me to see some sort of capitalization on a Vegetto (Mini) happening in the series. What do you think?

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Post by TechExpert2021 » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:25 pm

As a fan who adores fusions, I would love for Vegetto to return in DB Daima. However, it won't likely happen, but I suspect it will after certain episodes (possibly in an NEP showcasing or giving us a hint on the return of Vegetto in the next episode).
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Jord » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:31 am

As long as his merch makes money, he will return.

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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:26 pm

Hard to say until we have more information about the episodes.

Right now it looks like the focus will be on Goku and the Supreme Kai, but if Vegeta needs to come around to help him in the final battle, sure I could see that.

Wouldn't be the craziest thing to ever happen in this series.
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by MisteryOne » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:30 pm

If he does, they would need yet another excuse for the Potaras defusing... seems more problem that it's worth but I guess fanservice is fanservice.
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by nineko » Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:59 am

That's the easy part, just like [according to speculation] Kibitoshin defused when they became young, Vegetto can defuse when they become adults again.

That, or they can just pull a retcon like several other times in the past. And 30 years from now, when Dragon Ball Super Kai will be a thing, the "Potara fusions only last for 30 minutes if you're not an actual god" line in the Goku Black arc can be complemented with "we already told you in Daima, did you forget?" / "yes, we forgot, because plot".

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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Trouser » Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:56 am

I hope not.
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by TechExpert2021 » Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:11 am

Trouser wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:56 am I hope not.
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:49 am

Vegetto will inevitably return, although I am in no real hurry. The fusion characters outside of Kefla and Zamasu are really boring. Kefla and Zamasu were culmination of character arcs. They represent real bonds and character arcs between their base characters—bonds and arcs that Gogeta, Vegetto and Gotenks have continued to fail to really represent in any sort of consistent manner that calls back to continuity. Until characters like Gokuu, Vegeta, Goten and Trunks make real, permanent changes, I just don't see any reason to get excited about their inclusion in a storyline.
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Makaioshin » Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:21 pm

If this show really isn't post-Super I guess a mini Vegetto could supplement the lack of a new form being introduced (though they could still just do that). If fusion is part of this story though it would more interesting to me to see a different combination.

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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Grimlock » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:03 pm

Almighty Majin wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:00 pmWhat do you think?
I think if we are to have any resemblance of coherence, then Vegetto will not appear. As you said, he returned in Dragon Ball Super and the context makes it pretty clear, Goku and Vegeta never fused again after Majin Buu saga. Goku had to ask the Kaioshin from Universe 10 why the fusion was undone last time. If Goku fuses again prior to that, then he should have known he would defused and would not have to ask the Kaioshin. Gogeta also cannot show up because Vegeta would only learn about the dance in Dragon Ball Super Broly (although he had seen Goten and Trunks fusion from the Otherworld...).

No fusion between Goku and Vegeta must happen in Dragon Ball Daima if it takes place before Dragon Ball Super. And at any rate, it is time for other people to fuse anyway. That would be far more interesting to see.

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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by Koitsukai » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:13 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:49 am Vegetto will inevitably return, although I am in no real hurry. The fusion characters outside of Kefla and Zamasu are really boring. Kefla and Zamasu were culmination of character arcs. They represent real bonds and character arcs between their base characters—bonds and arcs that Gogeta, Vegetto and Gotenks have continued to fail to really represent in any sort of consistent manner that calls back to continuity. Until characters like Gokuu, Vegeta, Goten and Trunks make real, permanent changes, I just don't see any reason to get excited about their inclusion in a storyline.
Not only that, the MC fusions always come will the prelude of "nah-hah", "come on", "I said no", "but", "NO", until Vegeta remembers he has a family and gives in.
They've grown much closer compared to when they fused vs Buu, it is not forever anymore, they both dislike fusing but also both know when there's no other way out... yet they still do that boring comedy routine. It's like it's always the first time they are about to fuse. Sigh...

If fusion comes back, I'd like to see some character development in that regard... "Geets, fusion"... "Hit me up, K-man". GT did it wonderfully, Vegeta came up with it and he did so after unlocking SS4... he overcame his fusion issues and his own ego issues. And his dancing issues, too.

But I see now this is for Daima, I was mostly talking about post-SH material, Grimlock makes a good point. Fusion by the time Daima takes place should be considered permanent.

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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:18 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:13 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:49 am Vegetto will inevitably return, although I am in no real hurry. The fusion characters outside of Kefla and Zamasu are really boring. Kefla and Zamasu were culmination of character arcs. They represent real bonds and character arcs between their base characters—bonds and arcs that Gogeta, Vegetto and Gotenks have continued to fail to really represent in any sort of consistent manner that calls back to continuity. Until characters like Gokuu, Vegeta, Goten and Trunks make real, permanent changes, I just don't see any reason to get excited about their inclusion in a storyline.
Not only that, the MC fusions always come will the prelude of "nah-hah", "come on", "I said no", "but", "NO", until Vegeta remembers he has a family and gives in.
They've grown much closer compared to when they fused vs Buu, it is not forever anymore, they both dislike fusing but also both know when there's no other way out... yet they still do that boring comedy routine. It's like it's always the first time they are about to fuse. Sigh...

If fusion comes back, I'd like to see some character development in that regard... "Geets, fusion"... "Hit me up, K-man". GT did it wonderfully, Vegeta came up with it and he did so after unlocking SS4... he overcame his fusion issues and his own ego issues. And his dancing issues, too.

But I see now this is for Daima, I was mostly talking about post-SH material, Grimlock makes a good point. Fusion by the time Daima takes place should be considered permanent.
Yeah, exactly! Like, any normal writer would have made the use of Potara merging against Zamasu and the use of fusion against Broli these inocuous things for Gokuu and Vegeta after the battle with Majin Buu. Instead, it feels like we got line-for-line recreations of those scenes, which just act as repetition, rather than character arcs for Gokuu and Vegeta.
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Re: Will Vegetto Return?

Post by super michael » Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:43 am

Kale, Caulifla, Goten and Trunks has no problem fighting as a team and using fusion. They don't see fusion as a bad thing. They don't let their pride get in the way.

Although we haven't seen a perfect fusion from teen Gotenks, we have only seen a failed fusion.
Actually imagine if baby Gotenks appears, that would be cool. Although that seems unlikely.

As for kid Vegito or Gogeta that would be cool.

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