Would you like to see blood in DB Daima?

[TechExpert2021]

I hope the 11:40 PM JST time slot means DB Daima will have blood (but not too far) because DB Super almost had no blood (since that anime aired on Sundays @ 9:00 AM JST).

[sangofe]

If it's natural, sure.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

If it's natural, sure.

Same, I'd be fine with it if it feels compelling and adds to the emotional weight of a fight scene. I wouldn't want blood for the sake of it.

[LightBing]

I wouldn't mind a bit of gore like the manga has. It was shocking in a good way.

Since not even in the 90s they showed it all. I doubt it will happen here.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I don't have strong feelings for it. If it's there, cool, if it is not, no deal breaker, after all the original manga wasn't that gory to beging with.

[MisteryOne]

Outside of the Moro scene twist, I don't think it was that necesary in Super overall , so whatever is more natural. Just don't hide it with excessive white spit.

[super michael]

Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and GT had blood. I would like to see Daima have blood in it.

[SupremeKai25]

No. I think there are a lot more original and creative ways to convey the stakes of a fight instead of edgy cringe blood.

It's kind of weird how some people need to see blood on-screen to enjoy a show ngl.

[The Monkey King]

No. I think there are a lot more original and creative ways to convey the stakes of a fight instead of edgy cringe blood.

It's kind of weird how some people need to see blood on-screen to enjoy a show ngl.

So Toriyama's original manga was "edgy cringe" because it had blood in it?

[TechExpert2021]

No. I think there are a lot more original and creative ways to convey the stakes of a fight instead of edgy cringe blood.

It's kind of weird how some people need to see blood on-screen to enjoy a show ngl.

So Toriyama's original manga was "edgy cringe" because it had blood in it?

That's why I said Dragon Ball, especially Daima, shouldn't have too much blood. Just a small to slightly moderate amount of blood, but not to the point it becomes gory.

Take Vegeta decapitating Gurd/Guldo, Freeza impaling Kuririn on the chest with his fangs, and Majin Buu punching and decapitating Babidi's head off his body for instance. Those would be too inappropriate and too bloody for Dragon Ball nowadays.

[SupremeKai25]

No. I think there are a lot more original and creative ways to convey the stakes of a fight instead of edgy cringe blood.

It's kind of weird how some people need to see blood on-screen to enjoy a show ngl.

So Toriyama's original manga was "edgy cringe" because it had blood in it?

No, because blood wasn't the only way it conveyed stakes. To give you an example, you can remove blood from the Namek saga and still feel the stakes just by the sheer environmental destruction that Freeza is causing with his attacks, culminating in Namek's destruction.

Again, I am just puzzled by the fandom's obsession with blood. It's whatever for me. The characters are still bruised, characters in DBS are constantly bruised, there's still clear, visible signs that they have been fighting and getting damaged.

Are you going to look this and say that you don't feel the stakes of battle? Be honest now.



The Cell saga was cringe and edgy though. I'm so happy that DBS doesn't have ugly and gross scenes like a bugman eating someone alive, these ugly and cringe-inducing scenes don't belong in a series like Dragon Ball. From Dragon Ball I expect fun and light-hearted stories with a good balance between stakes/fights and humour, not a literal horror sequence.

[super michael]

Other anime has blood, even football anime has blood. I don't see what why it is so bad in Dragon Ball having blood, when it is a fighting anime.
One Piece has blood and that is on the same time and day as Dragon Ball Super.

[Gashaponista]

I couldn't care less about animated blood, but hopefully this time we'll see a lot of red drops so we can stop talking about it in forums:
It's a constant complaint that exhausts me.

Count on my pro-blood vote!

[TechExpert2021]

Some of you may or may not noticed this one, but I noticed there is a small amount of blood on Mini Vegeta's face.

[ChibiGoku]

The time slot was never the issue why Dragon Ball Super didn't have blood. The issue came up during Licensing magazine, where Toei Animation's marketing director talked about making the show safe for international markets, due to difficulties in the past (see: Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, etc., back in the 90s in Europe), and such.

The exact quotes is as followed from the interview:

Cultural hurdles proved to be a massive challenge in bringing an anime property to North America in the ‘90s. Because anime was
largely consumed by adults in Japan and often featured mature content, American broadcasters were reluctant. After all, animation in the U.S. was, at the time, largely aimed at children. “The challenge in bringing the property to TV here was that there is broadcast Standards and Practices for each network,” says Lisa Yamatoya, senior manager, marketing and licensing, Toei Animation. “The series itself had some mature content, so we learned to accept that we would have to invest in different versions, such as a hard edit and a soft edit. We edited the actual animation, and we re-recorded it in other languages to make it suitable for different networks.

“In America, everybody thinks animation is for kids, but in Japan, people of all ages read manga, and the after-midnight animation shows have mature content,” adds Yamatoya. “I think to have the Japan team understand what needs to be done to sell in the U.S. is a huge challenge, even to this day.”

The Hard and Soft Edits refer to one done at the production level, and one that was done needed to be for localization purposes (such as TV airings or legal reasons).

Whether or not it has any notable amount of blood will depend on whether or not they're making the series safe with International standards in mind. They had several series air in the same time slot with some notable amount of blood (GeGeGe no Kitaro being notably one of them), and One Piece airs immediately after it. Adding onto this, Dragon Ball Super aired after Fuji TV's news programming, which showed far more disturbing things that occur in their country and outside (especially the news segments during the beginning of the pandemic), so it's absolutely not a case of the time slot being the issue. At the end of the day, those shows are broadcasted for Kids as much as they are for Families. Also, remember, when Kai got edited, only really the first 13~ or so episodes had gotten edited, due to the Tokyo Youth Ordinance bill having passed months prior, creating a chill effect and producers not knowing how this would affect them (the reality is: not much at all). Similar things that were censored (such as impalements and more graphic violence) would make it intact in the rest of Kai.

Daima will entirely depend on the International market with how Toei intends to distribute/market it. The Kids market is absolutely starting to be a no-go in a lot of western markets, and in particular the United States, the market is dying (combination of politics at networks, them failing to adapt to kids viewing habits, and just in general there isn't as much investment in Kids TV as there once was). Baring in mind, this is from a western prospective, whereas the situation in Asia and individual markets may be different and Toei may still worry about those markets.

We'll have to see how things go.

[TechExpert2021]

The Kids market is absolutely starting to be a no-go in a lot of western markets, and in particular the United States, the market is dying (combination of politics at networks, them failing to adapt to kids viewing habits, and just in general there isn't as much investment in Kids TV as there once was).

The majority of kids nowadays watch online video content (including TV series) on various online video streaming platforms like Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, Disney+, Max, Crunchyroll, YouTube, etc. on any device, including smartphones and tablets. I'm sure this case usually applies to Western kids but I'm not sure the same applies to Japanese kids.

[ChibiGoku]

The majority of kids nowadays watch online video content (including TV series) on various online video streaming platforms like Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, Disney+, Max, Crunchyroll, YouTube, etc. on any device, including smartphones and tablets. I'm sure this case usually applies to Western kids but I'm not sure the same applies to Japanese kids.

Given the rise of late night anime that would normally be targeted towards kids and general audiences, I'd imagine a similar situation is occurring in Japan as well. Why watch live when you can record it, watch it later, as well as stream it shortly afterwards on most major streaming platforms? Kids have access to so much anime nowadays because of that, and likely why networks aren't really giving day time slots anymore to most anime. Even TV Tokyo has dropped off heavily as well in what they used to air during the day.

[Skar]

No. I think there are a lot more original and creative ways to convey the stakes of a fight instead of edgy cringe blood.

It's kind of weird how some people need to see blood on-screen to enjoy a show ngl.

I understand not liking the sight of blood but it's an odd to defend Super by arguing that every series that has characters bleeding is edgy and cringe. There's over the top bleeding and gushing out blood like in some horror movies but most action series and movies have bleeding during a fight because it's a natural thing that could happen when someone is hurt in real life.

[nineko]

I don't particularly care if there is blood or not (and demons can have rainbow-colored blood for all I care), as long as it's realistic and consistent, I mean:
I cut you with a sword? There should be blood.
I punch you in the stomach? There shouldn't be blood on the stomach itself, but eh, I can understand if you cough up a bit of blood (not a waterfall of it, though).
I hit you on your head with a 2×4? There shouldn't be blood, just pass out.

[Alruneia]

I also think that we shouldn't just have blood for the sake of blood, but that it absolutely has its place and that having no blood at all is weird. A thought crossed my mind though, which is that the blood could just be on its own layer, and then you could have it turned on or off, viewer's choice. I know that it's asking a lot, but it's far from impossible to add functionality like that to streaming services, and for the viewers it'd be a lot like turning captions on or off. It'd be a lot of work and I don't expect it to happen, but I think being able to customise your experience in small ways like that would be nice.