Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 2 - Official Discussion Thread

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Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 2

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Kanzenshuu Episode Guide Page:

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/episode/daima/eps-002/

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Release Information:

JAPAN:
Date: October 18, 2024
Time: 11:40 p.m
Channel: Fuji TV

INTERNATIONAL STREAMING:
Date: October 18, 2024
Sources: Simulcast streams include Crunchyroll (North America, Central America, South America, Europe, Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Indian subcontinent, Southeast Asia, and Middle East); delayed streams include Netflix (Asia/global)

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[JulieYBM]

Something that stuck out to me about how the episode began and ended is that it kind of feels very much like how the first episode ended—kind of sudden and without a lot of intentional 'the episode is ending down' winding down like you get from other television anime. Since we know that the first three episodes are being released in theaters, I'm kind of curious if they were originally one long first episode? Yashima Yoshitaka storyboarded the first two episodes, after all, which would make sense given his speed and his role as the series' leading director.

It'll be really interesting to see if the ending of Episode #3 feels more like an 'episode ending' of sorts when it airs next week.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Small tribute to Toriyama on the lyrics of the opening.

[Grimlock]

This may be Dabura's father, Abura. I didn't think they would reveal his appearance so soon, I thought they would take their sweet fifteen years before delving into this again. Eh, I was hoping for something "more demonic", if that makes any sense. And a white hair...



I wonder if he is still alive and will play a role, or if there will be any flashback showing him. And Karin continues to be white instead of blue.

[FortuneSSJ]

- They did what I wanted in taking this change of characters becoming younger to recast everyone. Almost. They should have replaced Nozawa too. They did good in keeping this a secret. Everyone fits.

- The opening song and its visuals are really good. The ending song not really.
- So far the music didn't impress me. I need to see the action and sad pieces to make a proper judgement
- They made sure to clarify that not everyone with pointed ears is a demon, but most are
- Genius move in explaining why Shenlong in modern Dragon Ball not always grants three wishes. It's only for regular customers
- I was expecting Bulma to recall the Namekian spaceship when she saw Kaioshin ship.
- Better pacing than the first episode.
- I prefer the usual TV format with a proper next episode preview and eyecatches

[goku the krump dancer]

I love it when you call me Big Kamesennin, throw ya hands in the aya if you a true playa!




Oh and baby Popo being mushed away was so funny!

[kemuri07]

Yeah the joke that three wishes are only for valued customers was pretty funny.


I imagine that people who think Dragonball should only be about the punching and transformations are not going to be happy with the focus on story here, but I think it’s a very welcome and needed change. Absolutely loved how being turned small clearly effected how Goku fights, so needing the power pole was necessary.

So far, Daima is doing some good stuff here. It’s good to watch Dragonball and not be actively pissed off by it.

[DBFanGuy]

I’m wondering the Namekians actually didn’t originate in the demon realm and traveled there and stayed for a bit. I thought years ago Toriyama said they were an interdimensional race who travelled. Makes me wonder if Neba lied to Dende.

[nato25]

The shenron thing caused a few problems though doesn't it? Particularly for RoF.

Loved this episode and I actually laughed out loud a fair bit. The flying gag was great, the nyoibo being used to hang laundry was classic dragon ball. And kibito getting more and more annoyed at Bulma, although I don't think they capped that joke off very well even though the build up of it was great.

Will be interesting to see if Goku puts the power pole back to make sense with super .

And why didn't turtle and korin get turned young? They aren't Goku's friends? Even Dende and Popo (who is hard to see without his turban!) got turned small so it wasn't just those at the party.

[LightBing]

This episode went by fast!

Happy that Goku isn't the only character travelling.
Hope Bulma get's a gun or something, besides being the wonder brain.

Interesting that Piccolo knows about Neba...

The Shenlong excuse is hilariously. Based on this and last week, he might have purposely sabotaged Gomah?

[GhostEmperorX]

As it turns out, the protagonists had no means of even going to the demon realm, even if they wanted to, until these guys gave them not only a reason, but also reference technology to do so. This only compounds Gomah's mistake by several orders of magnitude, he really can't complain at this point.

That "3 wishes is only a service for regular customers" thing was hilarious too.

On the side, the score is definitely picking up, people should really lower their expectations about that one (or just not compare it to most anything else) considering the scope of the series (and how there's not much action in the first two episodes). It looks like the main theme has finally been established with another variation playing midway through the episode (and probably more to come), and there's a bit of a preview of the action music during the Nyoibou scene.
We did get an OP re-arrangement in the first episode so it would be cool to see how it plays out. Soundtrack is a definite buy upon release, really can't go wrong with Kousuke Yamashita.
EDIT: There's also a different OP re-arrangement playing when Goku goes to Karin's Tower.

[nato25]

This episode went by fast!

Happy that Goku isn't the only character travelling.
Hope Bulma get's a gun or something, besides being the wonder brain.

Interesting that Piccolo knows about Neba...

The Shenlong excuse is hilariously. Based on this and last week, he might have purposely sabotaged Gomah?

I thought that too but good thing they seemed to remember piccolo isn't that old himself. I'm guessing that's the kami side of him giving him that knowledge.

[JulieYBM]

I absolutely love that Shen Long is very much the kind of guy who will go, "You're annoying me, so buzz off" for one group of people and then shit himself for someone like Beers or even the god that created him.

I also liked how the Dragon Ball GT aspect of, "Gokuu's smaller body is throwing off his senses" is brought here. Not only is it realistic and easy to understand because of how it makes the viewer think about their own body in a traditional sense, but it also reminds me of how my sense of distance and balance changed when I started HRT. I kept bumping into stuff even worse than I did before!

[ZombieVito]

The shenron thing caused a few problems though doesn't it? Particularly for RoF.

Well, Pilaf and Co. are not first timers.

[jjgp1112]

Shenron being every stingy bodega owner in New York City is a welcome twist

[LightBing]

This episode went by fast!

Happy that Goku isn't the only character travelling.
Hope Bulma get's a gun or something, besides being the wonder brain.

Interesting that Piccolo knows about Neba...

The Shenlong excuse is hilariously. Based on this and last week, he might have purposely sabotaged Gomah?

I thought that too but good thing they seemed to remember piccolo isn't that old himself. I'm guessing that's the kami side of him giving him that knowledge.

Most likely Nail, who knew about it from Guru. Neba hadn't seen a Namek for thousands of years.
Hope they go deep into this. So glad Piccolo is going for the ride, already saw what seemed like Namek houses in the opening.

[Grimlock]

While the Shenlong bit might explain a few oddities we saw, it creates an issue with Movie 15, where he had no problem offering a second wish to those Freeza soldiers. Prety sure those random ones aren't Shenlong's loyal customers.

It was creepy to see Goten and Trunks talking as babies, though.

[nato25]

The shenron thing caused a few problems though doesn't it? Particularly for RoF.

Well, Pilaf and Co. are not first timers.

I forgot they were there! I could only remember Frieza sorbet and tagoma making the wish. I mean it's still them doing it and then there's the whole thing where the movie is inconsistent with it's retelling, I guess having pilaf there will do.

[AliTheZombie13]

Good:
- Pacing is better this time around. The setup is interesting with moderate stakes and mysterious motives. Curious to see where it'll go.
- Piccolo and Vegeta will join eventually. While I don't really give a damn about Vegeta, it's nice Piccolo will get some spotlight for once.

Misc:
- Where the hell is Gohan and Tenshinhan? Would be good to see Lunch again, too.
- At one point, I was hoping that they would follow through with the concept that the characters are nerfed. "Oh, they can't fly anymore. That's good, now Goku will get to have the Kinto Un back and- Nope, they're back to being OP." Speaking of, there were more than a couple times I asked myself this episode, "Is there any reason Goku can't teleport?"
- A lot of the information introduced in this episode was a hard sell.
-- "Three wishes are for regulars." Since when?
-- "I know about this Neva guy from long ago." But I thought you didn't have any memories of your pre-Earth life? How do you know that?
-- "Long ago, I came to this universe in a spaceship." Did all of your Boo-killed siblings come along with you or...?
- "I don't sense an Evil Ki." - In the words of the immortal TFS raging about GT: "Ki has intent now!"

[DBFanGuy]

So other civilizations left the demon realm. Sounds like not every species from there are demons.