Producer confirms Daima was made for GT fans

[AliTheZombie13]

"We primarily targeted viewers in their early 30s who grew up watching Dragon Ball GT and now have children of their own, the idea was to create a new series with the same spirit as GT.

Our main goal was to attract a wider audience. In hindsight, making Goku smaller expanded the entry point for viewers. We didn’t initially expect all the characters to shrink, but of course, this was something Toriyama came up with.

If GT stood for 'Grand Tour' through space, DAIMA is about an adventure in the Great Demon Realm. Unlike Super, which focused on Goku’s increasing strength, this series takes a different approach, showing him fighting dynamically with the Power Pole.

Toriyama pointed out that many people today might not be familiar with the original story about collecting the Dragon Balls and facing powerful enemies. So we made sure the story was easy for newcomers to understand while also clearly showing Goku’s growth, even after being turned small.

We had to ensure the characters and story remained compelling. We wanted parents to feel encouraged to watch with their kids, so we paid close attention to the presentation."
- Akio Iyoku

https://www.cbr.com/dragon-ball-daima-g ... spiration/

Personally, I don't know whether to feel honored or insulted.
Even if I had children, I wouldn't show them Daima. I'd just put them to watch GT or the original and that's it.
Thanks, I guess, but I really don't want it.

[SupremeKai25]

Interesting.

I saw a lot of criticism against Super because it was "made for kids" and "dumbed down" just to "appeal to a wider audience".

I suppose these complaints will be levied against Daima too, right? I mean they're literally saying that it's a show for kids and made to be as mainstream as possible.

[Venus]

Meh, I still prefer GT over Daima.

If they wanted to remake GT they should have done it properly and not release a half-assed product like Daima.

[Chuquita]

It does give the vibe of "db for parents who were fans and their children to watch together". I don't know if Toriyama was a grandparent or not, but he was in that general age group.

It explains a lot. Why certain aspects were toned down and why they chose to focus on what they did.

Also reinforces why from the initial reveal I wasn't feeling it. Good to get confirmation I guess. Still gonna watch to the end though as it is the final Toriyama db thing.

[JulieYBM]

It's hardly surprising, given the little touches. I do wish they had focused on actually writing more character arcs, though. It's fine and dandy if Toriyama likes his little worldbuilding nonsense, but that's not the full basis for a television series. Somebody had to be there trying to drive the character stuff a little harder.

[Zephyr]

We can definitely hold Toriyama accountable for not coming up with character arcs, but it's also kind of silly that they started production without even having figured the story out, right?

[AliTheZombie13]

We can definitely hold Toriyama accountable for not coming up with character arcs, but it's also kind of silly that they started production without even having figured the story out, right?

I would be happy enough if they just remade GT as it was, but written better/had Toriyama do his take on it like he did with Broly.
But that would require them to go past the EoZ, and that by some fucking reason is unthinkable.

[JulieYBM]

We can definitely hold Toriyama accountable for not coming up with character arcs, but it's also kind of silly that they started production without even having figured the story out, right?

Kinda-sorta? I think it depends on if they sat out to form a story based on a number of episodes that they wanted (one would assume) or if the series was ordered based around the story that was provided? I do think that it's pretty obvious that the staff wasn't really clear on what they were being asked to make, too. They could have begun production on the first set of episodes without having a clear idea of the end of the series so long as they made decisive decisions at the end of the day.

I think that the problem with Daima is that it just doesn't really feel decisive about a lot of details, so it just meanders a lot.

[perucho1990]

If there will be another anime post Daima maybe call Toyo if he can help Iyoku and co with the anime writing that they could cover each other weaknesses(Toyo can bring some writing cohesiveness while Iyou and DB room bring the entertainment aspect like what Super had)

[JulieYBM]

If there will be another anime post Daima maybe call Toyo if he can help Iyoku and co with the anime writing that they could cover each other weaknesses(Toyo can bring some writing cohesiveness while Iyou and DB room bring the entertainment aspect like what Super had)

They can just hire anime writers. They know how to write, after all. The problem is that they're usually loaded down with weird limits placed either by people with weird creative philosophies (Toriyama) or producers who want to create something for the lowest common denominator.

Actually letting your writers write and do stuff that they can commit to goes a long way.

[AliTheZombie13]

They can just hire anime writers. They know how to write, after all. The problem is that they're usually loaded down with weird limits placed either by people with weird creative philosophies (Toriyama) or producers who want to create something for the lowest common denominator.

Actually letting your writers write and do stuff that they can commit to goes a long way.

We need another writer revolt like it happened with Digimon Tamers, maybe then we'll get a Dragon Ball anime that's actually good.

[Makaioshin]

It was clear from the get-go that this show is a tribute to GT. I am not sure why they would choose this more divisive part of GT and not the retooled Baby arc+ part but I guess they ran the numbers.

All in all I would say redoing GT isn't a good idea but the execution isn't all that bad.

[JulieYBM]

It's not a big surprise: people like cute kid characters, so of course they'll bank on that as a selling point.

[Luso Saiyan]

Nothing that couldn't be easily assumed, but it's always nice to get confirmation. What's not explained is the decision to strech it the way they did, with extremely slow pacing and contrived excuses to extend the running time of the story.

As of now, the story of the series could have been easily told in half the episodes, and I'm willing to guess that it would make it a better experience overall.

It's just a shame that Toriyama's last expansion of the DB world is enveloped in such a boring series.

[Shintoki]

Nothing that couldn't be easily assumed, but it's always nice to get confirmation. What's not explained is the decision to strech it the way they did, with extremely slow pacing and contrived excuses to extend the running time of the story.

As of now, the story of the series could have been easily told in half the episodes, and I'm willing to guess that it would make it a better experience overall.

It's just a shame that Toriyama's last expansion of the DB world is enveloped in such a boring series.

i'd not say boring per see, but rather just not much of a spectacle. it is a fun show if u wanna prop it with the kids tho

[YamiGoku]

Kids of this day and age would be bored of out their minds watching Daima, hell adults fans are bored out of their minds watching Daima, the finale may have somthing interesting, but the series felt like 80% filler.

Also making them kids to appeal kids has to be the mind set I hate the most in any franchise, just because its for kids you dont have to make it all kiddy and dumb, good kid shows respect the intelligence of their audience, and just because its for kids doesn't mean it needs to be protagonized by little kids, I hate that.

[super michael]

They can just hire anime writers. They know how to write, after all. The problem is that they're usually loaded down with weird limits placed either by people with weird creative philosophies (Toriyama) or producers who want to create something for the lowest common denominator.

Actually letting your writers write and do stuff that they can commit to goes a long way.

We need another writer revolt like it happened with Digimon Tamers, maybe then we'll get a Dragon Ball anime that's actually good.

I didn't know that happened with Digimon Tamers, if it is no problem can you tell more about how the revolt happened? I am curious since I am a Digimon fan.

[TechExpert2021]

It's now confirmed that Daima is 100% GT 2.0.

Even if I had children, I wouldn't show them Daima. I'd just put them to watch GT or the original and that's it.

Daima is more kid-friendly than GT and the original 1986 DB anime. However, they are still for kids (Japan has different standards for what's appropriate for kids in kids' cartoons in comparison to Western countries). In the case of the original 1986 DB anime (and maybe to a lesser extent, GT), they were aired at a time when Japanese TV content standards were different in comparison to today.

Also making them kids to appeal kids has to be the mind set I hate the most in any franchise, just because its for kids you dont have to make it all kiddy and dumb, good kid shows respect the intelligence of their audience, and just because its for kids doesn't mean it needs to be protagonized by little kids, I hate that.

I absolutely agree with this.

[AliTheZombie13]

I didn't know that happened with Digimon Tamers, if it is no problem can you tell more about how the revolt happened? I am curious since I am a Digimon fan.

If memory doesn't fail me, Digimon Adventure 02 was such a mess that Toei kept pressuring the writers with bullshit to the point they threatened to leave, so in compromise, Toei gave them total freedom on how to write Digimon Tamers. Sadly, Tamers was a commercial failure, but it did turn out to be one of the better written seasons.

Daima is more kid-friendly than GT and the original 1986 DB anime. However, they are still for kids (Japan has different standards for what's appropriate for kids in kids' cartoons in comparison to Western countries). In the case of the original 1986 DB anime (and maybe to a lesser extent, GT), they were aired at a time when Japanese TV content standards were different in comparison to today.

Whether it was meant for kids, for teenagers, for adults, I don't care.
I'm a boring-ass adult now working near 24/7 to make ends meet today and my time is precious.

While I don't have kids of my own, I do take care of two nephews on the weekend, and they don't watch TV anymore.
They're spending most of their time on TikTok, playing online games, or play-pretending to be playing PS5 games on YouTube.
I would never drag them to watch something with me, because I understand that's not my generation and I'd rather leave them be with what they like.

If I had to drag them to the TV to force them to watch something with me, it sure as hell wouldn't be something I consider so heinously boring and that is outright insulting their intelligence like Daima. I would just settle for the censored DB run from Toonami just like I started in the 2000's.

Then again, I'm not sure how the 30's adult male Japanese life style is like.

[Chuquita]

At least knowing this is intended as a parents and child/children show, it explains why Daima's demon realm isn't scary, why none of the bad guys have seemed particular threatening until these final episodes, why Goku has been having a mostly easy time, and why despite the animation and episode count there haven't been that many Z style battles.

I wish they'd advertised that parents and children point instead of wait for an interview this many weeks in.