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Post by Jord » Mon May 05, 2025 7:12 am

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Trump wrote on Truth Social, “The Movie Industry in America is DYING a very fast death. Other Countries are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States. Hollywood, and many other areas within the U.S.A., are being devastated. This is a concerted effort by other Nations and, therefore, a National Security threat. It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda! Therefore, I am authorizing the Department of Commerce, and the United States Trade Representative, to immediately begin the process of instituting a 100% Tariff on any and all Movies coming into our Country that are produced in Foreign Lands. WE WANT MOVIES MADE IN AMERICA, AGAIN!”

Trump later told reporters, “Other nations have been stealing the … movie-making capability of the United States. I said to a couple of people, ‘What do you think?’ I have done some very strong research over the last week, and we are making very few movies now. Hollywood is being destroyed. Now you have a grossly incompetent governor that allowed that to happen, so I am not just blaming other nations, but other nations, a lot of them, have stolen our movie industry. If they are not willing to make a movie inside the United States, and we should have a tariff on movies that come in. And not only that, governments are actually giving big money. They are supporting them financially. So that is sort of a threat to our country in a sense.”


Anime movies showings in the US are already on a smaller scale and budget, a tariff of 100% would make it a lot more difficult to sustain these showings.

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 05, 2025 8:25 am

Trump wants to destroy as many people's lives as possible. This will definitely help with that.
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Post by MasenkoHA » Mon May 05, 2025 10:42 am

I don’t know if this would impact pre-existing Dragon Ball films as Crunchymation, presumably, still has the masters and don’t need to import anything.

The optimist in me wants to believe this might wake up some MAGA anime fans up at how incompetent their orange god actually is when the newest Demon Slayer or Juju Kaisen movie can’t get an American release. So uh fingers crossed I guess

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Mon May 05, 2025 11:14 am

JulieYBM wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 8:25 am Trump wants to destroy as many people's lives as possible. This will definitely help with that.
He's going after every aspect of the US, yet for some reason everyone, including congress, are just watching. If this is what things look like after a little over 100 days, I can't even begin to imagine what things will look like by January 2029 (assuming he even leaves office). Even if a democrat becomes president and they have both chambers of congress, will there even be anything left to salvage once this maniac is finished ? How this lunatic got one, much less two terms is something I'll never understand. How could 75 million people look at a million deaths in 2020, an insurrection in 2021, felony convictions, etc... and think "yep, that's who we should send to the white house AGAIN". To make things worse, they handed him congress as well. How can so many people be so ignorant ? I know it was mostly to stick it to minorities, rather than people believing he was actually qualified, but still. Do people not have standards anymore ?

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 05, 2025 11:23 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 10:42 am I don’t know if this would impact pre-existing Dragon Ball films as Crunchymation, presumably, still has the masters and don’t need to import anything.

The optimist in me wants to believe this might wake up some MAGA anime fans up at how incompetent their orange god actually is when the newest Demon Slayer or Juju Kaisen movie can’t get an American release. So uh fingers crossed I guess
That would be nice. I'm not sure it'll do much in that regard, because the underlying issues with who they are as people will remain, but it'll still be nice if it sets them on a different path.

I'm not looking forward to how the anime industry is going to be impacted by this. I'm not sure if the tariffs specifically target only 'films' and not television, but film screenings have become something that at least allows for staff to have more time and resources for a single, concentrated project in recent years, so I'm not looking forward to seeing its legs cut off.

I already hated Trump for More Series Reasons than Muh Anime—he's targeting minorities like me—but the attack on the arts like this really does hit me on that level, too.

Reducing access to the ability to experience forms of art is just as bad as reducing access to the ability to create the arts. We need to be expanding access. More movies, more television, more comics, more prose novels, more poetry, more acting classes, more painting and illustration classes, more sculpting classes, more architecture, more music. The arts enrich the soul, which is precisely why fascism seeks to control and ultimately destroy them.

Congress won't do shit, because they are beholden to their wealthy donors—the same class of people whose interests are served by the GOP. Democrats are liberals, not leftists or progressives, and such they will always move to the right to compromise with the GOP. We're not stopping the rise of fascism through the electoral system.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon May 05, 2025 11:26 am

I wish the US democratic party could get their act together to be able to lead a successful campaign. Anyone should be able to defeat this madman who should have never been able to rise so high in politics in the first place, and the insurrection should have been the last straw for showing just how dangerous this man is.

Ironically though, this is likely going to hurt the American film industry as lots of films are shot in places like Ireland and Canada because it's cheaper. So karma should come back to bite Trump in the ass in the long run.
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 05, 2025 12:11 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:26 am I wish the US democratic party could get their act together to be able to lead a successful campaign. Anyone should be able to defeat this madman who should have never been able to rise so high in politics in the first place, and the insurrection should have been the last straw for showing just how dangerous this man is.

Ironically though, this is likely going to hurt the American film industry as lots of films are shot in places like Ireland and Canada because it's cheaper. So karma should come back to bite Trump in the ass in the long run.
The Dems don't care about winning. If they did, they'd actually meet their constituents where they are at.

Like the whole not supporting a genocide thing. Or killing innocent civilians overseas. Or actually supporting the minorities that the GOP are actively trying to harm.

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Post by Tian » Mon May 05, 2025 12:53 pm

It's funny that he's now caring about the same industry he's been destroying by scaring foreign markets away with his ridiculous tariffs.

There's no way that the U.S film industry can sustain itself with just the domestic box offices and reception.

If he loves "Murica" so much, he should be aware that this bullshit of his will only end up into many film studios going broke because of the eventual boicot of more countries and thus, the impossibility of getting more distribution deals and box offices from those markets.
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Post by MasenkoHA » Mon May 05, 2025 1:16 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:23 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 10:42 am I don’t know if this would impact pre-existing Dragon Ball films as Crunchymation, presumably, still has the masters and don’t need to import anything.

The optimist in me wants to believe this might wake up some MAGA anime fans up at how incompetent their orange god actually is when the newest Demon Slayer or Juju Kaisen movie can’t get an American release. So uh fingers crossed I guess
That would be nice. I'm not sure it'll do much in that regard, because the underlying issues with who they are as people will remain, but it'll still be nice if it sets them on a different path.

I'm not looking forward to how the anime industry is going to be impacted by this. I'm not sure if the tariffs specifically target only 'films' and not television, but film screenings have become something that at least allows for staff to have more time and resources for a single, concentrated project in recent years, so I'm not looking forward to seeing its legs cut off.

I already hated Trump for More Series Reasons than Muh Anime—he's targeting minorities like me—but the attack on the arts like this really does hit me on that level, too.

Reducing access to the ability to experience forms of art is just as bad as reducing access to the ability to create the arts. We need to be expanding access. More movies, more television, more comics, more prose novels, more poetry, more acting classes, more painting and illustration classes, more sculpting classes, more architecture, more music. The arts enrich the soul, which is precisely why fascism seeks to control and ultimately destroy them.

Congress won't do shit, because they are beholden to their wealthy donors—the same class of people whose interests are served by the GOP. Democrats are liberals, not leftists or progressives, and such they will always move to the right to compromise with the GOP. We're not stopping the rise of fascism through the electoral system.
Of course in an ideal world these people would be anti-Trump because they had basic human empathy or paid even the slightest bit of attention to what’s been going on in the last 100 days. Not being able to watch “Help my sister’s been turned into my favorite energy drink” at AMC really shouldn’t be the wake up call but if that’s what it takes.

And of course I’m not naive enough to think these people will be cured of their bigotry but even if they realize voting to hurt minorities isn’t going to make things better for them, it’s something

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 05, 2025 1:32 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:16 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:23 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 10:42 am I don’t know if this would impact pre-existing Dragon Ball films as Crunchymation, presumably, still has the masters and don’t need to import anything.

The optimist in me wants to believe this might wake up some MAGA anime fans up at how incompetent their orange god actually is when the newest Demon Slayer or Juju Kaisen movie can’t get an American release. So uh fingers crossed I guess
That would be nice. I'm not sure it'll do much in that regard, because the underlying issues with who they are as people will remain, but it'll still be nice if it sets them on a different path.

I'm not looking forward to how the anime industry is going to be impacted by this. I'm not sure if the tariffs specifically target only 'films' and not television, but film screenings have become something that at least allows for staff to have more time and resources for a single, concentrated project in recent years, so I'm not looking forward to seeing its legs cut off.

I already hated Trump for More Series Reasons than Muh Anime—he's targeting minorities like me—but the attack on the arts like this really does hit me on that level, too.

Reducing access to the ability to experience forms of art is just as bad as reducing access to the ability to create the arts. We need to be expanding access. More movies, more television, more comics, more prose novels, more poetry, more acting classes, more painting and illustration classes, more sculpting classes, more architecture, more music. The arts enrich the soul, which is precisely why fascism seeks to control and ultimately destroy them.

Congress won't do shit, because they are beholden to their wealthy donors—the same class of people whose interests are served by the GOP. Democrats are liberals, not leftists or progressives, and such they will always move to the right to compromise with the GOP. We're not stopping the rise of fascism through the electoral system.
Of course in an ideal world these people would be anti-Trump because they had basic human empathy or paid even the slightest bit of attention to what’s been going on in the last 100 days. Not being able to watch “Help my sister’s been turned into my favorite energy drink” at AMC really shouldn’t be the wake up call but if that’s what it takes.

And of course I’m not naive enough to think these people will be cured of their bigotry but even if they realize voting to hurt minorities isn’t going to make things better for them, it’s something
It's definitely going to be nice, if that does work out. It's always so weird seeing insane MAGA types and such into something as feminine and gay as anime.
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Post by Koitsukai » Mon May 05, 2025 1:35 pm

Funny that he complains about other governments financing their own film industries, as if the US doesn't do the same.

The world has been leaning to the far right for a decade now, people are rising up everywhere, sure, but then you have as many others supporting campaign slogans such as austerity, repression, extermination of the other, the enemy, fuck myself as long as we fuck the enemy, erase the enemy.

Hopefully, soon enough, being racist, homo/trans/xenophobic, proudly ignorant, and plain evil will once again be seen as shameful and wrong. These are dark times, with sheep voting for wolves and the loss of decades of earned rights and social progress across the globe.

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Post by coola » Mon May 05, 2025 4:16 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 8:25 am Trump wants to destroy as many people's lives as possible. This will definitely help with that.
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Post by Jord » Mon May 05, 2025 5:08 pm

If this goes through, it will be a blow to Japan as well. I don't know the exact numbers but I would think the US is one of the larger foreign markets.
President Trump's presidency has been divisive but I can't see many people being happy with this decision, including the US based studios that are intended to be protected by this.

Heck, in a way, the US dub of Dragon ball makes it a sort of half-US product due to the US production.

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Tue May 06, 2025 12:06 am

These tariffs are potentially going to apply to American made movies as well (shot abroad, post-production abroad, etc...). I don't think people realize just how disastrous this is. Hollywood as a whole, as in the American movie industry that's been around for over 100 years, could cease to exist as a result of this. How on earth can congress and the courts just sit there and allow him to destroy this country piece by piece ? He's going after health, education, social services, and now movies ? Again, will there be anything left to salvage if a new president is allowed to take over in 3.5 years ?
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90 million Americans last year didn't vote on the basis of there being no difference between Trump and Harris. I honestly don't know what Democrats could've done differently to convince them otherwise. Not saying Harris run a perfect campaign, but if someone doesn't see grass as green, then there's very little you can do to convince them otherwise.
Koitsukai wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:35 pmThe world has been leaning to the far right for a decade now, people are rising up everywhere, sure, but then you have as many others supporting campaign slogans such as austerity, repression, extermination of the other, the enemy, fuck myself as long as we fuck the enemy, erase the enemy.
I don't think it's the world leaning more right, but rather the left leaning people deciding to just stop caring and fighting. What chance does Gotham...the world have when the good people do nothing ?
Tian wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 12:53 pmIf he loves "Murica" so much, he should be aware that this bullshit of his will only end up into many film studios going broke...
He does not love America, and studios going broke is the whole purpose of this. He wants to destroy as much of the country as he can before he leaves office. No industry or government agency is safe from him and his goons.

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Post by Koitsukai » Tue May 06, 2025 8:56 am

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 12:06 am
Koitsukai wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:35 pmThe world has been leaning to the far right for a decade now, people are rising up everywhere, sure, but then you have as many others supporting campaign slogans such as austerity, repression, extermination of the other, the enemy, fuck myself as long as we fuck the enemy, erase the enemy.
I don't think it's the world leaning more right, but rather the left leaning people deciding to just stop caring and fighting. What chance does Gotham...the world have when the good people do nothing ?
Uhm, yeah, we could talk about how in many countries the right or far-right has been winning elections due to divided opposition (and also due to right wing options being much more compact and practical, as a movement) but my point is there's also a facade that has been dropped.
Fascists are no longer living in the shadows or ashamed of views that 10 or 15 years ago would have been outrageous. They are being elected president everywhere now. Segregation and extermination are no longer frowned-upon, lol.

Funnily enough, the right is presenting itself as the solution to problems it created in the first place, problems that left-leaning governments failed to solve. Like the mafia burning down your store and then offering themselves as your first line of defense against further attacks.

So, I think it's a little bit of both, left governments and movements dropping the ball, and right movements encouraging precambrian thinking and proposing that as the solution.

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Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Tue May 06, 2025 9:19 am

Considering what a global franchise DB has become, does anyone think it's possible Toei may decide to delay whatever future movies they have until the US gets its shit together ? Now I'm reading that this will not only impact theatrical released movies, but streaming ones as well.
Koitsukai wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 8:56 amFascists are no longer living in the shadows or ashamed of views that 10 or 15 years ago would have been outrageous. They are being elected president everywhere now. Segregation and extermination are no longer frowned-upon, lol.
This is a very good point you make here. I think these people always existed, but they never had a public platform or representative to get their views out. Brexit back in 2016 was the door being opened a crack, while Trump's first election win was the doors being kicked wide open. At this point there aren't any doors at all. What we're seeing now are things I always thought would be left in history books; things that people long moved on from. Unfortunately, it seems like humanity has not only not moved on from its past, it's getting worse. I can not imagine being a woman or a minority and feeling safe in the current U.S.

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Post by Jord » Tue May 06, 2025 9:28 am

I would then think they would still make them but exclude the US. There is still a lot of money to be made in Europe, Asia and South-America

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue May 06, 2025 10:07 am

Justin Sevakis from Discotek was like "Do you even tariff something that isn't physically being moved across borders? Not freaking out until I see an actual concept that can be applied". Personally, I don't know how to feel at this point.
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Post by MasenkoHA » Tue May 06, 2025 11:10 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 10:07 am Justin Sevakis from Discotek was like "Do you even tariff something that isn't physically being moved across borders? Not freaking out until I see an actual concept that can be applied". Personally, I don't know how to feel at this point.
It would make anyone’s head spin trying to to figure out what the hell Trump is talking about or how tariffs can be applied.

If he’s talking about Hollywood movies being shot outside the U.S, he’s going to put tariffs on…what exactly? He can’t put an import tax on a film crew flying to New Zealand or Canada to shoot a movie.


If he means honest to God foreign films…they make such a minuscule amount of movies shown in American theaters. The anime industry is probably the most lucrative for foreign films being brought over and shown in theaters to the States and even then.

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Post by M16U3L2015 » Tue May 06, 2025 11:36 am

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:19 am Considering what a global franchise DB has become, does anyone think it's possible Toei may decide to delay whatever future movies they have until the US gets its shit together ? Now I'm reading that this will not only impact theatrical released movies, but streaming ones as well.
I don't think so, with a franchise like DB it is possible that Toei might decide to prioritize other markets like Europe, South America or Asia instead of depending on the political situation of a single country with the uncertainty of not knowing what is going to happen with someone as unpredictable as Trump.

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