True opinions about BT-2

PiccoloDaimao · Post by **PiccoloDaimao** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:08 pm

I haven't followed the "Dragonball Scene" for about 3 years or so, so I don't know what games are good for the PS2. I just want to know what your honest opinions about Budokai Tenkaichi 2 are.

Is it a game that gets old fast? Are the controls crap?

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:10 pm

It's by far the best Dragonball Z game I've played.

That said, I only play it CASUALLY because it could get old if you play it for a long length of time.

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:12 pm

Budokai Tenkaichi is good for a DBZ-simulator, it has tons of characters to unlock, so you'll be spending a good 30-40 hours on the game. If possible, I'd recommend playing the 1st BT to see if you like the gameplay and controls. Because it's very polarizing.

However, for a pure straight fighting game, I would recommend either Super DBZ or Budokai 3. Super DBZ plays like a Street Fighter/Tekken clone, but it's really fast-paced and fun. Plus the environments are large and the cel-shading of the graphics makes it the most manga-faithful in terms of style.

Budokai 3 is the overall best DBZ game. It has a healthy amount of characters (not as many as BT2), and the gameplay is more of a simplified fighting game style, but the Dragon Rush modes really save it.

- Bilis

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:23 pm

theoriginalbilis wrote:Super DBZ plays like a Street Fighter/Tekken clone, but it's really fast-paced and fun.

Or, annoying as hell if you have trouble with the overwrought controls.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:03 am

I say go buy BT2, it is awesome! You can transform in the middle of the power and the animations are so good! The amount of characters are nice and the way the storyline is done is very good. I reccomand it.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:25 am

Sparking! NEO is good, but Budokai 3 is better.

Thanos · Post by **Thanos** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:46 am

Forget Budokai 3 and Sparking! NEO. Super Dragon Ball Z is your best bet. You will be happy with that for a long time to come... Sparking! NEO and Budokai 3 just basically have tons of carbon-copy story-battles and tons of characters to simulate long replay-value... all the characters are basically the same with different animations and attack names... Super DBZ only has 18 (unique) characters and no Story Mode, but somehow, I play it more than either of the other games. Haha.

But let me tell you. Look on YouTube and watch some of the combo-videos for Super DBZ... some of them seem almost unintentional, but they are very, very awesome.

Super_Vegeto · Post by **Super_Vegeto** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:16 am

BT2 in my opinion is personally the best fighting game i have come across. I really like the fact it's in a 3D environment and how you can fly around but also how cool some special move's are. The only thing that let's it down for me is how poorly the scene's in story mode are put together, but i hope in the next BT they can not rush the story scene's and maybe have more destroyable scenery. As for BT2 it's defiantly worth the buy.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:51 am

*looks for cyber-ancient DBZ game reviews in a far away land*.

I've only played BT/Sparking! 1. Even though the dozens of characters get really old, I enjoy the gameplay (though the simplicity of the moves is kind of... bleh... I don't really care for supermove-ness).

I like it because 1, the navigation engine is absolutely perfect for me; in the same vein as Legends, but more complex, and just more fun to play with.
The way sound is used in the game makes me very happy. My only issue is the relative lack of stereo in 2player mode, but hey... split screen doesn't lend itself to stereo.

The basic engine is ok. It could use some mixing up, just to keep things interesting, but I find that it's generally fun. And for this game... I guess fun comes before effective, heh.

The hand-to-hand engine is pretty well designed, but you have to work to use it; that's one of the things I like most is how much you can do in close-quarters combat, but it still undermines the whole idea of martial arts.

And it's also worth mentioning that I very rarely play as anyone that isn't unlocked at the beginning of the game (though on occasion Future Trunks with a sword, Goten or Videl are fun). A million characters means minimal variability... and you can tell that the designers had a hard time expanding on that (it'd take a lot of time and effort, so I can't blame them; I'm still only playing as Piccolo and the humans though.

).

From what I can gather, BT2 has a lot of things with a cool factor that is over 9000! ... *ahem*, and the same general mechanics apply, so it'd probably be the more exciting of the two (that and in-game transformations should be fun... although I haven't seen how they work in BT2, so nya).

I personally don't like playing Budokai3. Yes, the story mode is very well designed, and if anything that is the game's best selling point; the depth there is awesome. But since I can't tell what's on the world map worth crap... I wind up being the strategist while someone else plays... o.o.
The fighting engine of Budokai3 isn't too bad, but it's got all kinds of ways of exploiting weaknesses in defenses and such... Meh, it just feels like it's not much of a skill game, and you have to equip megaDestroya! Capsules and such... which of course isn't me-friendly. Dragon Rush is an awesome feature (although a bit simplistic, it's still a nice way to add energy to fights).

And one of these days... I will play Super DBZ. It must happen.

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:57 pm

The main contenders for you attention right now would be Super Dragonball Z, Dragonball Z: Budokai 3 Greatest Hits (do not get the regular edition), and Dragonball Z: Tenkaichi Budokai 2.

Super DBZ is an awesome fighting game that you will love if your a fan of the Capcom/SNK fighters of years past. You get eighteen character who can be somewhat customized with attacks and abilities. The primary drawbacks are the lack of a story mode and characters. But the ones that are in there provide enough variety that you probabaly won't mind much. I myself have put in over 40 hours in the game assigning moves and skills.

Budokai 3 is what I describe as playing the show because speed of the dodging and countering in the game is incredible and the sequences for the rushes and Ultimate attacks are pretty cool. Although getting snubbed on completing the same attack multiple times can become annoying, but when you do connect them is very rewarding. The story mode is very good and has a lot of different paths that can be taken off of the main story from the anime. The Greastest Hits version allows you to choose the Jpn VAs and unlock alternate costumes for a Goku with Halo, Long hair Trunks, and King Piccolo and a few cosmetic changes. The RPG elements of the game allow you to upgrade the stats of your characters and give added in-fight bonuses to them by sacrificing some moves and abilities (more or less depending on the character). The only problem that all of the characters play almost the same. Larger characters are slightly slower and such, but for the most part everyone is the same.

Tenkaichi 2/Sparking! Neo is more about being the characters, in my opinion. It's partially free roaming while in the fight but 99% of the time you'll be locked on your opponent. The gameplay is pretty easy to learn but after a while it becomes a lot of the same. The in-game transformations and fusions are really cool. The fighting itself is very simplified, but you can still have fun with it. It does have the same main problem that Budokai have with regard to the similar character playability.

All three games are really great for Dragonball games. I say rent each to see which one would be worthy of a buy for you. Depending on how much gaming time you have available will determine how far you will get in each.

Super DBZ takes about two hours to unlock all the character, but a few more to really unlock all the customizable options for each. I can't speak much for Budokai because I used a Gameshark and unlock the characters and other items. But I did have to go through story mode to unlock some special voice samples and it took me about twenty hours to do that with full health and Ki. Tenkaichi 2/Sparking! Neo I did all on my own and it takes about 10 hours to go through story mode and unlock characters and level up assigned Z-items. Then another two or three to go through Ultimate Battle mode. I've gone through story mode about four time.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:47 am

Personally I didn't like Sparking! NEO/Budokai Tenkaichi 2, but it's a love hate game, some people love it, other people hate it. I sugest you rent Budokai 3, Super DBZ, and BT2 so you can play them and find out which you like best.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:31 pm

Sparking Neo is great, but the camera angles still suck.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:44 am

I find Sparking! NEO to be more flawed than Budokai 3. I have to agree with the fighters in Budokai feeling like carbon copies though, but I believe the same applies to Sparking! NEO. However since Sparking! NEO is more of a free roaming fighter than can be somewhat forgiven. Super DBZ is the only game out of the three where the characters feel more unique & the combos you unlock through customization add more to it.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:25 am

Every single DBZ game of the Budokai series has had an entire cast of carbon copy characters. It's simply something I've grown to accept. There are far too many of them for the developers to drown in detail (though they could if they really wanted to).

Despite this, BT2 on the Wii is a completely new experience. Annoying in some ways, especially at first, but after a little practice I'm sure you'll find it enjoyable. It deviates a little from complete clones in that the specials will be executed slightly differently for different characters (which there are a ton of, by the way. Also, you can pick them at any stage starting out [i.e., Super Saiyan, SS2, 3, etc]).

The storyline covers the entire series, complete with English/Japanese voice acting, so that is definitely a plus. Many different modes in addition to Story, as well.

On the downside though, some cool characters have been left out of the US version. :[

That's all i can really think of...Unfortunately, my brother has been playing a lot more than I have, lol. But yeah as with most DBZ games, if you're a fan, it's worth it.

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