A couple of Piccolo questions

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:23 pm

Can Piccolo regenerate internal and wholes in his chest? And does his father share this ability?

Is the re-fused Kami/Piccolo more powerful than the pre-de-fused (if someone has a better term for this let me know and I'll change it) Kami/Piccolo? If Nail hadn't been included.

Could it be reasoned that the reason King Piccolo was able to recreate a sorta-real Namekian was do to him trying to (re)produce a clone/son rather than a demon like all the others before?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:52 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote:Can Piccolo regenerate internal and wholes in his chest? And does his father share this ability?

Not sure. But he can regenerate his entire body, so long as his head is intact. That's gotta say something. He survived being shot through rather severely by Cell, though; that may have been partially from his regenerative abilities.

Is the re-fused Kami/Piccolo more powerful than the pre-de-fused (if someone has a better term for this let me know and I'll change it) Kami/Piccolo? If Nail hadn't been included.

Not sure what exactly you're asking, here.

Both Kami and Piccolo had grown considerably, so their re-merged self was stronger than their pre-split self. Nail did add a good deal more power into the mix.

Could it be reasoned that the reason King Piccolo was able to recreate a sorta-real Namekian was do to him trying to (re)produce a clone/son rather than a demon like all the others before?

I have a theory. It's that while Namekians can (apparently) create minions and little creatures and stuff without too much effort, it takes FAR more energy and effort to create an actual "offspring," or more of a clone in Piccolo's case.

It would explain why after several centuries, there's only a couple dozen Namekians on Namek after the planet-wide disaster.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:01 am

Couple dozen? There was something like 120 Namekians.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:07 am

Duo wrote:Couple dozen? There was something like 120 Namekians.

Oops. Well, that's ten dozen.

Either way, that's still not that many for having been repopulating the planet for a couple centuries.

Untouchable · Post by **Untouchable** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:31 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote:Is the re-fused Kami/Piccolo more powerful than the pre-de-fused (if someone has a better term for this let me know and I'll change it) Kami/Piccolo? If Nail hadn't been included.

Much like the Saiyan-jins and the human contingent of the Z-soldiers, training and fighting always helps with "becoming more powerful" and I think that it's no different with Piccolo.

And even without the fusion with Nail, Piccolo died and was allowed to train with Kaio-sama on his planet before his re-merger with Kami, thus furhter elevating Piccolo's own power (something that Kami was never able to do).

So, yeah, I think a "re-fusion" of Kami/Piccolo is definitely stronger than the original, de-fused Kami.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:12 am

When I heard Piccolo could regenerate his body as long as his head was intact it made me ask the same question "Anonymous Friend" posed. . . If Piccolo Jr. can survive being blasted through the chest by both Freeza and Cell as well as regenerate his entire body then why did his "father" Piccolo Daimao explode when body impaled by Son Goku. It's either one of two things:

1) The technique used by Goku not only impaled Piccolo Daimao but caused him to explode. So perhaps it was the unique technique that Goku used. Still I don't remember it being anything more than a full charge through Piccolo Sr's body.

Or

2) Piccolo Jr. is more powerful than his "father" either because he was made that way or he became stronger thanks to the fusions with Nail and Kami. Thus, he was able to utilize his regenerative powers to it's fullest unlike Piccolo Daimao.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:25 am

I think ya just answered your own questions, boopsy!

Maphisto86 wrote:1) The technique used by Goku not only impaled Piccolo Daimao but caused him to explode. So perhaps it was the unique technique that Goku used. Still I don't remember it being anything more than a full charge through Piccolo Sr's body.

If Goku's superpunch there was some sort of early prototype Dragon Fist, then it's not too unbelievable.

2) Piccolo Jr. is more powerful than his "father" either because he was made that way or he became stronger thanks to the fusions with Nail and Kami. Thus, he was able to utilize his regenerative powers to it's fullest unlike Piccolo Daimao.

Nor is this.

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:30 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:If Goku's superpunch there was some sort of early prototype Dragon Fist, then it's not too unbelievable.

Actually, the attack is called Super Dragon Fist in Budokai 3, so it's very possible that it's an early (albeit, improvised) version of the attack.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:32 am

Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:If Goku's superpunch there was some sort of early prototype Dragon Fist, then it's not too unbelievable.
Actually, the attack is called Super Dragon Fist in Budokai 3, so it's very possible that it's an early (albeit, improvised) version of the attack.

I guess so then.

At Goku's level of power then, an energized punch isn't gonna be much more than just an energized punch. But later, when you're powering it with Super Saiyan 3...

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:02 am

Piccolo was able to regenerate the hole is his chest caused by Cell, he was still hurt and unable to move because Cell broke his neck. Apparently he can't heal anything in the neck, head region.

As for King Piccolo, he frickin' exploded after the hole in his chest caused by Goku. But since he was a demon, ehh...just time difference in the series.

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:45 am

Got a couple more:

Was Kami's split an actual physical split like or more on the lines of releasing energy that formed a physical body of it's own? Can it really be said that Kami was whole again? Isn't Piccolo a whole lot different than King Piccolo, so much so the they're more like father and son than clone/clonee?

How long can Piccolo, or anyone who can make multiple copies of themselves, stay separated? If I'm not mistaken, the more clones you make of yourself the weaker each are, but if you can stay separated long enough to significantly increase the power then merge back to increase the individual.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:39 am

Anonymous Friend wrote:Got a couple more:

Was Kami's split an actual physical split like or more on the lines of releasing energy that formed a physical body of it's own? Can it really be said that Kami was whole again? Isn't Piccolo a whole lot different than King Piccolo, so much so the they're more like father and son than clone/clonee?

Kami was the one with the body, King Piccolo was the evil that manifested into a physical form.

Anonymous Friend wrote:How long can Piccolo, or anyone who can make multiple copies of themselves, stay separated? If I'm not mistaken, the more clones you make of yourself the weaker each are, but if you can stay separated long enough to significantly increase the power then merge back to increase the individual.

No idea on this one.

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:20 am

He only needs his head remaining?

If his regenerative powers were so great then how is it that Nappa's blast killed him? He was left fully intact.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:08 am

Humpski wrote:He only needs his head remaining?

If his regenerative powers were so great then how is it that Nappa's blast killed him? He was left fully intact.

I am pretty sure he mentioned in Buu saga where Fat Buu was fighting Vegeta that he only needed his head intact to be able to regenerate.

I guess that in the fight with Nappa he actually did get heavily damaged, so damaged that it was only his ki that was able to keep his body in one piece. He died when the ki was used up, until then I guess he couldn´t manage to charge up sufficient ki to be able to regenerate.
Just my two cents.

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:17 am

Godo wrote:
Humpski wrote:He only needs his head remaining?

If his regenerative powers were so great then how is it that Nappa's blast killed him? He was left fully intact.
I am pretty sure he mentioned in Buu saga where Fat Buu was fighting Vegeta that he only needed his head intact to be able to regenerate.

I guess that in the fight with Nappa he actually did get heavily damaged, so damaged that it was only his ki that was able to keep his body in one piece. He died when the ki was used up, until then I guess he couldn´t manage to charge up sufficient ki to be able to regenerate.
Just my two cents.

Possibly it's a matter of ki yeah.

So does Cell have that same restriction I wonder? Despite his ability to regenerate could you just beat Cell to death? Just keep pounding him until he has no ki left?

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:45 am

Anonymous Friend wrote:How long can Piccolo, or anyone who can make multiple copies of themselves, stay separated? If I'm not mistaken, the more clones you make of yourself the weaker each are, but if you can stay separated long enough to significantly increase the power then merge back to increase the individual.

Well, only Tenshinhan can do that. Cell, Piccolo and Kuririn use that technique in filler. It's called the 12-eyes technique, so I don't see why they made others do it. There's no stated proof on how long it can last.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:01 am

Humpski wrote: So does Cell have that same restriction I wonder? Despite his ability to regenerate could you just beat Cell to death? Just keep pounding him until he has no ki left?

Well, thinking of it, Cell had just the abilities of the genes in him, no extra abilities. Even the Cell Jr.s were like Piccolo´s ability of making offsprings but his absorption thing was probably made genetically by Dr. Gero prior to the information and gene collection.
If he didn´t use any techniques to blow Earth up like he did, I could sure see SSJ3 Goku beat him to death until he cannot regenerate.
Remember, when Goku shot the head and arms off Cell, I think Krillin said that Cell still had a lot of chi left in his body. He was also told to have huge chi-reserves left that he hid, making him able to regenerate a lot until he lost all his chi.

If you think like this: When Piccolo Jr. first fought Goku and got his arm severely wounded, he regenerated and was exhausted. When he regenerated his arm when Cell (no absorbations) had sucked it up he wasn´t that affected at all.
So I guess it doesn´t take that much chi to regenerate body parts, making Cell able to regenerate in almost an infinity of times.

But still, SSJ2 Gohan vs. Perfect Cell (pre-SSJ2 power) could have went on until Cell was out of chi and he died.

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