Question about character choice

Vegeta Jr · Post by **Vegeta Jr** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:58 am

This question is reffering to the Shin Budokai games on the PSP.

Why is Android 18 in them and yet not 17, didn't 17 have more important battles in the series than those of 18. Why was one chosen and not the other, why couldn't both have them been in the games?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:07 pm

I really don't know; this is one of the biggest questions I have about the game myself. I was pretty sure it stemmed from 17 not being in the original Shin Budokai, either, since that one was based on Movie 12, and 17 really wasn't around during that era. But to excluded him from the sequel, which the story focuses on Trunks' future... yeah, that's kinda weird. Especially when they went and added a bunch of other stuff that really didn't apply to the story.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:41 pm

This is something that every single game prior to Legends did: included 18 while ignoring 17.
Super Butoden has 16, 18, and 20... no traces of 19 or 17.
Butoden3 ... 18 (It's mostly Buu-era though, so... yeah... that one throws me for a loop. If they'd gone with Super Buu, they might have been forced to include a story mode. Nah...).
Ultimate Battle 22: 16 and 18. (Bah, 18 didn't get a cutscene with Mr. Satan, either?)
It isn't until legends that we get all of the jinzoucyborg people.
To this I can only shrug.

Marty Kirra · Post by **Marty Kirra** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:11 pm

I think it's because 18 joins the Z-Fighters later on, and thus has somewhat of a bigger role. Not much bigger, mind you, but bigger than 17.

Vegeta Jr · Post by **Vegeta Jr** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:14 pm

Marty Kirra wrote:I think it's because 18 joins the Z-Fighters later on, and thus has somewhat of a bigger role. Not much bigger, mind you, but bigger than 17.

But she doesn't exactly have any major battles after the Android saga, actually the only other times we see her fight is sparring with Kuririn and competing in the Tournement. Neither of these scenarios are in the story mode for either games.

The Piccolo vs 17 battle is more important to the series than any of 18's battles except maybe againts Vegeta.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:24 pm

Vegeta Jr wrote:The Piccolo vs 17 battle is more important to the series than any of 18's battles except maybe againts Vegeta.

What are you talking about? 18 versus Mr. Satan is obviously way more important then Piccolo vs 17.

Leotaku · Post by **Leotaku** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:06 pm

I always kinda saw it as the developers wanting to include a female character in the lineup. Out of the regular (ie, no movie characters) cast, 18 is pretty much the only one that's close to the levels the male fighters are on.

I don't know why they wouldn't use both, though. Maybe they didn't want to waste space with a character that would end up fighting similarly to 18. If I recall correctly, the two are pretty similar in Super DBZ.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:08 pm

Leotaku wrote:I always kinda saw it as the developers wanting to include a female character in the lineup.

We have a winner. #17 and #18 would play almost exactly the same anyway, so they include the one that makes the game not be a total sausage-fest.