The Shin Budokais

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:11 pm

I recently got a PSP and would like to get a DBZ game for it, but I'm not exactly rolling in the dough.

So, which of the Shin Budokais would y'all recommend? I know the story mode is pretty crappy in both, but does the sequel screw over anything important gameplay-wise or things like that?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:07 pm

No, Shin Budokai 2 is pretty much better than the first in all regards. Story mode still sucks, but everything else is improved. More characters, improved stats system, and I think there were one or two small gameplay additions.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:14 pm

Shin Budokai 2 is the way to go.

I still to this day haven't finished the story mode, I chose to just download a save with everything unlocked instead of having to deal with that nightmare.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:20 pm

I'm odd man out when I say Shin Budokai because of its story mode, Shin Budokai 2's story mode may as well have been called "Load Time mode". However if you don't care about the story mode and just want to run through VS get 2 I suppose.

TAS · Post by **TAS** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:36 am

SB2 is the overall better game. It's got more to it in every way. It's a better version of the first game in all aspects except the Story Mode. The first game had a better Story Mode, but that aspect of it is like the Budokai compared to Budokai 2, ie B1 had a good story mode while B2's was horrible, however B2's gameplay was way better and I don't know many people that would want to go back to B1 just for the story when it's not as fun to play as B2 is/was.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:45 am

SB1 probably had the more fair gameplay. But, I mainly fought the CPU. Only one of my friends even got either game, and none of my friends live close enough for casual play (I really don't get why Sony doesn't support their handheld's wifi function more). The guard cancels in 2 are more abusable, and the burst charge moves can be cheap. Example, if you're using, say, Piccolo- you win. Why? Assuming you're halfway decent enough to not just be getting your ass kicked, you can use your burst charge to regenerate a decent chunk of health. By the same token, let's say you're fighting Cell. Chances are just when you think you're doing well, he's going to heal up on you.

But overall the gameplay was tweaked a bit to make 2 more polished. And the roster is much more attractive.

Honestly though, unless you're just in a major DBZ mood, there are better ways to maximize your PSP time. SFA3 is probably a more solid fighter, for example. Ditto Guilty Gear and maybe even Darkstalkers. Unless you have a few friends with SB 1 or 2, you'll pretty much be done with it after two weeks. Maybe less if you plan on ignoring the story mode. What types of games do you like to play?

And it may be worth your time to make a pandora battery and consider CFW. If nothing else, having a universal unbricker is pretty sweet. Also being able to make eboots out of your own PSX titles isntead of having to re-buy them with a PS3 is extra sweet. There are also some cool programs like bookR (a text and pdf reader), PSPTube, and FuSa (let's you use any kind of cable to play games on your tv with the PSP). And if emulation is your thing, you can use most of your roms on a psp with the appropriate program.

Freeza93 · Post by **Freeza93** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:05 pm

I would that you should buy 2. I still pick it up once in a while to play through the arcade mode a bit. But the story mode (as other people have said) is just bad because of the load times, so unlocking all the characters is a bit annoying. Or, if you want a retelling of movie 12 with Broly and other fun characters

, buy number one.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:14 pm

Onikage725 wrote:Honestly though, unless you're just in a major DBZ mood, there are better ways to maximize your PSP time. SFA3 is probably a more solid fighter, for example. Ditto Guilty Gear and maybe even Darkstalkers. Unless you have a few friends with SB 1 or 2, you'll pretty much be done with it after two weeks. Maybe less if you plan on ignoring the story mode. What types of games do you like to play?

So far, I've got God of War: Chains of Olympus and Iron Man. I'm not a fighting game fan outside of DBZ, but I do like beat-'em-ups (also Marvel, I intend to pick up the movie-games and Ultimate Alliance).

And it may be worth your time to make a pandora battery and consider CFW. If nothing else, having a universal unbricker is pretty sweet. Also being able to make eboots out of your own PSX titles isntead of having to re-buy them with a PS3 is extra sweet. There are also some cool programs like bookR (a text and pdf reader), PSPTube, and FuSa (let's you use any kind of cable to play games on your tv with the PSP). And if emulation is your thing, you can use most of your roms on a psp with the appropriate program.

I'm...not sure what most of that stuff is, but it would be fun to play old-school Crash and Spyro.

Freeza93 · Post by **Freeza93** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:24 pm

Rocketman wrote:
And it may be worth your time to make a pandora battery and consider CFW. If nothing else, having a universal unbricker is pretty sweet. Also being able to make eboots out of your own PSX titles isntead of having to re-buy them with a PS3 is extra sweet. There are also some cool programs like bookR (a text and pdf reader), PSPTube, and FuSa (let's you use any kind of cable to play games on your tv with the PSP). And if emulation is your thing, you can use most of your roms on a psp with the appropriate program.
I'm...not sure what most of that stuff is, but it would be fun to play old-school Crash and Spyro.

Or you could do it legally and buy the games off of the Playstation store. Then you don't have to mod it either.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:31 pm

Freeza93 wrote:Or you could do it legally and buy the games off of the Playstation store. Then you don't have to mod it either.

I....I own the CDs.

Freeza93 · Post by **Freeza93** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:42 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Freeza93 wrote:Or you could do it legally and buy the games off of the Playstation store. Then you don't have to mod it either.
I....I own the CDs.

Oh... Ok then. But still, I have heard modding a psp is hard to do and could break it.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:07 pm

It depends on what you have available to you. You need a custom firmware to MAKE a pandora's battery. Once you do, its really easy and safe. And, since pandora works off of recovery mode, it IS known as a universal unbricker. Worst case scenario, if something goes wrong, running pandora will recover your system. I recommend having one even if you don't want to use CFWs (Custom Firmwares- firmwares that mirror the officials, but let you run homebrew applications and iso's). Otherwise, fixing a crash = mailing to Sony and hoping they choose to count it under the warranty (note that Sony is notoriously dickish about such things) or paying an $80-90 repair fee.
And yes, CFW's used to have some crash issues, but that's mostly nonexistent. I just got the Kratos slim as a gift, and the first thing I did was use my existing Pandora setup (taking me to custom 3.71) and then upgraded to the custom 3.95. The newer versions actually upgrade through Sony's own updater, so crashes are all but unheard of.

And FYI Freeza93, there is nothing illegal about homebrew, or making eboots out of your PSX games. Sure, if you go to a site and download an iso that is illegal. But if you do what I do, use isobuster to rip your own game CD and then autopopstation to make it playable on the PSP (eboot), that is perfectly fine. There's also nothing wrong with having PSP iso's. I have my entire library backed up for two reasons- they run faster when loading from a memory stick (games like FF Tactics and Spectral Souls really benefit here), and also just as backup. My fat PSP's disc drive stopped working, and Sony refused to repair it- so I had to play my games from the stick. It doesn't hurt to have backups. It would only be illegal if you were to, say, find a torrent for a PSP game and download.

I'd be lying though, if I said I had a problem with emulation. Most of the older console roms I have are either foreign or games I owned once, but not all. And I love having portable Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger. Also, having being stuck on sitter duty with a patient who was passed out from meds, it was incredibly badass beating the boredome playing Turtles in Time. And the Capcom and NeoGeo arcade emus are great. Portable D&D: Shadows Over Mystara, Mega Man Power Battle, Super Gem Fighters, Sengoku or Samurai Showdown anyone?

PS- Modding a PSP isn't like modding most systems. Normally you hear about a modified system and think someone had to send it off to get a chip or switch attached to it. With the PSP its all software. Basically, PSPs used to be accesible, back in Firmwares 1.00-1.50. They patched them out of fear of illegal software use. Custom Firmwares basically match the official firmwares, but with kernel access to the older firmwares, to allow the use of homebrew software and whatnot.

I forgot to add, Guilty Gear has a beat em up mode, if that interests you. The other mode is a port of GGX2.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:30 am

I couldn't agree more, I've been happily running custom firmware for quite some time now.

Converting my psx games to eboots, brought me back to my ps1 library, I'm now enjoying all my favorite ps1 classics on my psp.

And honestly, as soon as I buy a game, I dump the UMD data to my hdd, and then run it off my memory stick, it loads faster, and I'm not just limited to what I've got in my UMD drive.

Now I can have five or six games on the go instead of just one.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:21 am

One of you guys is gonna have to point me to some sort of "PSP Homebrew for Dummies" tutorial, or something. I've been meaning to put some of my old PS1 games on this thing, as well.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:48 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:One of you guys is gonna have to point me to some sort of "PSP Homebrew for Dummies" tutorial, or something. I've been meaning to put some of my old PS1 games on this thing, as well.

Seconded!

Freeza93 · Post by **Freeza93** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:56 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
And FYI Freeza93, there is nothing illegal about homebrew, or making eboots out of your PSX games. Sure, if you go to a site and download an iso that is illegal. But if you do what I do, use isobuster to rip your own game CD and then autopopstation to make it playable on the PSP (eboot), that is perfectly fine. There's also nothing wrong with having PSP iso's. I have my entire library backed up for two reasons- they run faster when loading from a memory stick (games like FF Tactics and Spectral Souls really benefit here), and also just as backup. My fat PSP's disc drive stopped working, and Sony refused to repair it- so I had to play my games from the stick. It doesn't hurt to have backups. It would only be illegal if you were to, say, find a torrent for a PSP game and download.

I know that homebrew and the suchlike isn't illegal but I though that that was what you meant. I'm sorry.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:48 pm

No apology needed. I've noticed a lot of people tend to associate modding with piracy (since that is one of the draws to such), and I thought that's what you meant. I just wanted to set the record straight that it wasn't what I was suggesting.

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:27 pm

Such talk is relevant to my interests.

dowlingusa · Post by **dowlingusa** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:54 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:I couldn't agree more, I've been happily running custom firmware for quite some time now.

Converting my psx games to eboots, brought me back to my ps1 library, I'm now enjoying all my favorite ps1 classics on my psp.

And honestly, as soon as I buy a game, I dump the UMD data to my hdd, and then run it off my memory stick, it loads faster, and I'm not just limited to what I've got in my UMD drive.

Now I can have five or six games on the go instead of just one.

Wait..what? How? Please help me...I love my ps1 to death, but it barely works.

With the Shin Budokai's:

I didn't find the first Shin Budokai's story line to be too compelling myself. It was a lot of: Goku fights Krillin to train, and then Piccolo, and Gohan fights Piccolo, and everyone fights Piccolo, and then Janemeba shows up.

For Shin Budokai 2, not much changes and the story line is the same basic thing. The general layout is improved, and the added characters are welcome...except a few (SSJ4 Goku, I'm not a fan of this SSJ level at all, or GT). They are both very good games, with stunning graphics, and it is hard to tell the difference between playing budokai 3 and the shin budokai games.

Zuhalter2000 · Post by **Zuhalter2000** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:29 am

I actually like the story of the first Shin Budokai. It got me back into DBZ about a year ago after nearly 5 year break. Its not a great story but it was a lot of fun. I still wish I had my PSP

Kanzenshuu

The Shin Budokais

The Shin Budokais

Who is online