Saiyan hybrids in the stars?

[Jackal puFF]

I think there are many saiyans in space. With all the leftover saiyans that lived. They prob raped many aliens in space and knocking them up a bit.

Do you think thats possible?

That kid in the new dragonball special looks like vegeta's kid.

[Bussani]

Good question. It's a bit inconsistant. As far as the manga is concerned, Goku and Vegeta were the last of the Saiyans. It's only in the movies that this is changed. I don't know exactly how this new special is meant to fit into things yet; is it just another case of surviving movie Saiyans, or is it meant to fit into the canon more officially? We'll have to wait and see I guess.

[Wojak]

Good question. It's a bit inconsistant. As far as the manga is concerned, Goku and Vegeta were the last of the Saiyans. It's only in the movies that this is changed. I don't know exactly how this new special is meant to fit into things yet; is it just another case of surviving movie Saiyans, or is it meant to fit into the canon more officially? We'll have to wait and see I guess.

You can knock someone up later and then die.
Like a Saiyan rapporting when he landed back on planet Vegeta:

Control-man: Any reports?
Saiyan: Killed 'em all off, except for the 10% you wanted to spare to enslave. But Coalwhit died, man. The mission was kind of a drag.
Control-man: Okay, I'll report to the central. Do you need any medical care?
Saiyan: No, man, just some bruises and some scratches.
Control-man: Okay, you are dismissed.
Saiyan: Dude? Can I ask you a question?
Control-man: Yes.
Saiyan: What if, I like, nailed one of the slaves when I was at it? And like, she got preggo?
Control-man: No problem. Happens all the time. You know, the king himself has a couple of children across the space too.

Later

Saiyan: What is that red flash? Some of us are trying to sleep, gosh!

BOOOOM

[Saiyan-Professor]

I know the manga characters state that the Saiyans on earth are the only remaining ones alive in the universe. However, has Mr. Toriyama or the Daizenshuus ever affirmed this to be a fact?

[Bussani]

I know the manga characters state that the Saiyans on earth are the only remaining ones alive in the universe. However, has Mr. Toriyama or the Daizenshuus ever affirmed this to be a fact?

The most I've heard if that he considers Dragon Ball Online a 'semi-canon' continuation, in which there are no more Saiyans, considering Goku and Vegeta were the last. The game is set hundreds of years into the future or something, and Saiyans aren't pickable as a race because of this.

But I don't remember anything more official than that though.

[Captain Awesome]

The most I've heard if that he considers Dragon Ball Online a 'semi-canon' continuation, in which there are no more Saiyans, considering Goku and Vegeta were the last. The game is set hundreds of years into the future or something, and Saiyans aren't pickable as a race because of this.

Where did you hear this?, the most we've heard is that Toriyama is overseeing the story, we're not aware of any interviews with him.

[Bussani]

Where did you hear this?, the most we've heard is that Toriyama is overseeing the story, we're not aware of any interviews with him.

To be honest I don't remember now or even find where I read it now, so it might have just been nonsense from a blog or something. Take it with a grain of salt, as they say. Or just disregard it, if no one else heard if it's likely to be false information.

[SSj_Rambo]

Good question. It's a bit inconsistant. As far as the manga is concerned, Goku and Vegeta were the last of the Saiyans. It's only in the movies that this is changed.

That's true, but it has been stated that Toryama himself conisders this a canon continuation of his original work. But just because it turns out that there is a new Saiya-jin doesn't mean that it contradicts the manga; Raditz simply couldn't have known about this guy or his parents, or he could be from a different time or universe (a theory which I have a lot of evidence/ideas to support).

[Rocketman]

I don't think Freeza would be so sloppy as to leave tons of Saiyans hanging around. Vegeta he took special interest in, Nappa was Vegeta's 'bodyguard', and Raditz was only as strong as a Saibaman.

Goku slipped under the radar at the last second, but remember that the Saiyans were working for Freeza, doing jobs he ordered them to do. That means he must have some kind of record for what's going where and could/would use that to wipe out all the Saiyans off-world. Goku, again, slipped through because he left at the very last chance, and was thus written off as 'died when planet Vegeta exploded'.

As for hybrids, no. It is possible, however unlikely, that Saiyans and humans are close enough to interbreed. I do not accept that everybody can breed with everybody else.

[SSj_Rambo]

As for hybrids, no. It is possible, however unlikely, that Saiyans and humans are close enough to interbreed. I do not accept that everybody can breed with everybody else.

Not to mention that Saiya-jins seem like the type of people that consider themselves superior to all other races, and therefore wouldn't "interact" with other species on such a level...but you also have to look at it from the angle of them basically being ruthless pirates that lived pretty much by their own rules and were led by men...men.

[The Time Traveller]

As for hybrids, no. It is possible, however unlikely, that Saiyans and humans are close enough to interbreed. I do not accept that everybody can breed with everybody else.

That might be true in the real world, but in the Dragon World... how do you explain all those animal people?!

I says there be bestiality of insane magnitude going on.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

As for hybrids, no. It is possible, however unlikely, that Saiyans and humans are close enough to interbreed. I do not accept that everybody can breed with everybody else.

Except for when it comes to races that are physically similar, like Saiyans and humans. There are more of them out there.

I mean, look at Recoome of the Ginyu Force for example. He's neither Saiyan nor human, but he certainly looks like he's one of them, and I'm betting that people of his race could interbreed with Saiyans or humans as well.

[Snail]

As for hybrids, no. It is possible, however unlikely, that Saiyans and humans are close enough to interbreed. I do not accept that everybody can breed with everybody else.

That might be true in the real world, but in the Dragon World... how do you explain all those animal people?!

I says there be bestiality of insane magnitude going on.

Experimentation in the early days of the advanced technology that the Dragonworld has now perhaps. Another possibility may be that the animal people were never a result of a human-animal hybrid, but instead just the result of evolution taking it's course within the Dragonworld. Atleast, that's my take on it.

[Terra-jin]

I like to say that Saiyans, humans and any other humanoids are all descendants of a single, ancient space-faring race that disappeared long ago. All that's left of this people's empire is the scattered flocks of people long since evolved into slightly different races that we know of today as Terrans, Saiyans and so on. Their shared heritage means that they can interbreed, just as long as their evolutionary paths didn't stray too far apart.

[Snail]

That theory is WIN! Seriously though, that just has everything make much more sense, not to mention it'll be a blast to integrate something like that into a fanfiction; competent or not.

[Musume]

I'm of two minds about the subject.

If you're asking if it's possible in the canon universe, I'd say no. As someone else pointed out, you can't play Saiyans in DBO, and Toriyama has been supervising the game's development. I think, as an artist and writer, he liked the idea that Goku and Vegeta were the last members of their race. Why else go out of the way to have Vegetasei blown up in the story? It's important to Vegeta's character development, too.

Personally, though, I find it highly improbable that a race of interstellar mercenaries would have conveniently all been on the planet just before Freeza blew it up (with a few obvious exceptions). Goku couldn't've been the only baby sent off to another planet, to start with, and of course there would have been adults like Bardock's group on other missions. Even if Freeza had cancelled all of their assignments I can't see them going back to Vegetasei... it's too suspicious.

No one seemed to express surprise that Gohan was a half-human hybrid (i.e., Raditz, Vegeta, Nappa), so I'm tentatively guessing that it isn't uncommon for aliens to interbreed.

In summary...

Canon? No.
A great device for fanfiction? Hell yes!

[Rocketman]

Personally, though, I find it highly improbable that a race of interstellar mercenaries would have conveniently all been on the planet just before Freeza blew it up (with a few obvious exceptions). Goku couldn't've been the only baby sent off to another planet, to start with, and of course there would have been adults like Bardock's group on other missions. Even if Freeza had cancelled all of their assignments I can't see them going back to Vegetasei... it's too suspicious.

Bardock's team was killed on the planet they were assigned to take over.

[Xyex]

I like to say that Saiyans, humans and any other humanoids are all descendants of a single, ancient space-faring race that disappeared long ago. All that's left of this people's empire is the scattered flocks of people long since evolved into slightly different races that we know of today as Terrans, Saiyans and so on. Their shared heritage means that they can interbreed, just as long as their evolutionary paths didn't stray too far apart.

Haha. I've got that already for a Fanfiction, only in a much broader fashion. It's the explanation why almost everyone in all four galaxies is compatible with almost everyone else. In fact, I've only got two races in the North Galaxy that are incompatible.

[Rocketman]

I like to say that Saiyans, humans and any other humanoids are all descendants of a single, ancient space-faring race that disappeared long ago. All that's left of this people's empire is the scattered flocks of people long since evolved into slightly different races that we know of today as Terrans, Saiyans and so on. Their shared heritage means that they can interbreed, just as long as their evolutionary paths didn't stray too far apart.

All life on Earth is descended from the same point. Living on the same planet, in the same environment, life here exploded into so many different configurations we still don't know them all. Even a simple river would often draw a boundary between species, and those isolated by oceans would veer off into completely unique forms.

So on completely different planets, with no possibility of intermixing due to lightyears of distance, and given enough time that evolution took drastically different paths... [Saiyans evolved tails and two drastic transformations, humans have neither] somehow the entire galaxy remains genetically one species (the very definition of "species" is "a group that can interbreed and produce fertile offspring")?

[Terra-jin]

Just say that the 'ancient ones' reached some kind of evolutionary pinnacle in terms of their DNA. From this pinnacle, they can evolve further into the different races of today, but the DNA base remains largely the same.
Or, the ancient race was of such a recent time that evolution didn't get the chance to completely separate human and Saiyan DNA (other than the tail and SSj, their bases are similar enough to enable interbreeding).
Option #3: evolution did have its way with all the different offspring of the ancient ones, except for the humans and Saiyans who, through some extreme kind of coincidence, remained compatible.