Color chapter guide

Post by **Herms** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:12 pm

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This was inspired by a question Raki had for me yesterday, and by that damn cup of green tea that kept me up all last night. Anyway, now that the kanzenban have been out for a few years and the VIZBIG are coming out, it’s getting relatively easy to find the color manga chapters in actual color (the way they were meant to be seen!). So I figured I’d make a guide to which chapters are in color and where they can be found.

First, a few things about color chapters: while the vast majority of the DragonBall manga was drawn in black and white, some chapters were done in color. This was much more common when the series was starting out, and color chapters grew fewer and farther between as the series progressed. Of these color chapters, the vast majority of them start out with two to four pages in a full color palette, then switch to a limited palette for the rest of the chapter. So for instance, in full color palette pages, Goku wears orange and Piccolo is green, but in the limited palette pages Goku wears red and Piccolo is gray. These color substitutions vary from really stupid-looking to really cool-looking (in my opinion at least). There are only two chapters done entirely in a full color palette: 81 and 205. There are also some color chapters that are partially in color (usually only a limited palette), then switch to simple black and white. This is fairly common at first, but becomes rare.

Now here’s a list of each kanzenban volume, how many total color manga chapters they have, and which ones they are. So if you’re thinking of buying a few kanzenban, you can use this to see which ones will give you the most color for your money. Note that some of the chapters are not completely in color, especially in the earlier volumes. To see which ones, check out the individual chapter index at the end.

Kanzenban 1: Five (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Kanzenban 2: Two (19, 25)
Kanzenban 3: Three (33, 40, 44)
Kanzenban 4: Four (45, 48, 55, 57)
Kanzenban 5: Two (62, 70)
Kanzenban 6: Three (75, 81, 86)
Kanzenban 7: One (93)
Kanzenban 8: Two (106, 110)
Kanzenban 9: Two (121, 130)
Kanzenban 10: One (149)
Kanzenban 11: Two (155, 163)
Kanzenban 12: One (178)
Kanzenban 13: One (187)
Kanzenban 14: Two (196, 205)
Kanzenban 15: None
Kanzenban 16: Three (228, 229, 236)
Kanzenban 17: One (247)
Kanzenban 18: Two (255, 256)
Kanzenban 19: One (272)
Kanzenban 20: One (287)
Kanzenban 21: One (305)
Kanzenban 22: One (323)
Kanzenban 23: One (337)
Kanzenban 24: One (354)
Kanzenban 25: One (371)
Kanzenban 26: One (386)
Kanzenban 27: One (404)
Kanzenban 28: One (411)
Kanzenban 29: None
Kanzenban 30: One (452)
Kanzenban 31: None
Kanzenban 32: One (482)
Kanzenban 33: One (501)
Kanzenban 34: Three (512, 519, Trunks side-story)

Now here’s my speculation on what each VIZBIG volume will contain which GN volumes. For DragonBall, I’m unsure how they’ll divide it up for the last volumes. I think they’ll either have an extra big volume 5 or split it up into two smaller than usual volumes 5 and 6.
DB VIZBIG 1: GN 1, 2, 3
DB VIZBIG 2: GN 4, 5, 6
DB VIZBIG 3: GN 7, 8, 9
DB VIZBIG 4: GN 10, 11, 12
DB VIZBIG 5 (?): GN 13, 14, 15, 16
DB VIZBIG 6 (?): GN 15, 16

For DragonBall Z, I’m fairly sure that they’ll just have only two GNs in the last volume, because the last two GNs are extra big anyway. But I could turn out wrong.
DBZ VIZBIG 1: GN 1, 2, 3
DBZ VIZBIG 2: GN 4, 5, 6
DBZ VIZBIG 3: GN 7, 8, 9
DBZ VIZBIG 4: GN 10, 11, 12
DBZ VIZBIG 5: GN 13, 14, 15
DBZ VIZBIG 6: GN 16, 17, 18
DBZ VIZBIG 7: GN 19, 20, 21
DBZ VIZBIG 8: GN 22, 23, 24
DBZ VIZBIG 9: GN 25, 26

With that done, I can now figure out the number of color chapters that will be in each volume, and which ones they will be. So far for VIZBIG they’ve printed a lot of the color pages in gray scale, which is too bad. But I figure that VIZBIG volumes with a smaller number of color pages will have a greater chance of having all of them in actual color, and we can use this chart to make predictions. For Z-era chapters, I’ll use Viz’s DragonBall Z chapter numbers rather than the original ones.
DB VIZBIG 1: Eight (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 19, 25, 33)
DB VIZBIG 2: Eight (40, 44, 45, 48, 55, 57, 62, 70)
DB VIZBIG 3: Five (75, 81, 86, 93, 106)
DB VIZBIG 4: Three (110, 121, 130)
DB VIZBIG 5 (?): Five (149, 155, 163, 178, 187)
DB VIZBIG 6 (?): Two (178, 187)

DBZ VIZBIG 1: Three (DBZ 2, 11, 34)
DBZ VIZBIG 2: Five (DBZ 35, 42, 53, 61, 62)
DBZ VIZBIG 3: Two (DBZ 78, 93)
DBZ VIZBIG 4: Three (DBZ 111, 129, 143)
DBZ VIZBIG 5: Two (DBZ 160, 177)
DBZ VIZBIG 6: Three (DBZ 192, 210, Trunks side-story)
DBZ VIZBIG 7: One (DBZ 217)
DBZ VIZBIG 8: Two (DBZ 258, 288)
DBZ VIZBIG 9: Three (DBZ 307, 318, 325)

Now here’s a summary of each color chapter, giving which kanzenban it’s in and which VIZBIG it should be in. This way, if you’re planning on buying some kanzenban or VIZBIG, you can see which scenes are in color and where they can be found. I’ve noted which color chapters switch to black and white midway through, and for those that are already out in VIZBIG I’ll note which ones are printed in gray scale. For Z-era chapters I’ll give both their original chapter number and their DBZ one.

Chapter 1
The first chapter, twice as long as a normal one. Deep in the mountains, Goku meets Bulma and the two set off on a journey to find the dragonballs.
Kanzenban: 1
VIZBIG: DB 1

Chapter 2
Goku and Bulma set up for the night in a capsule house. While Bulma is sleeping, Goku removes her panties and makes a discovery. Only the title page and first page are in color.
Kanzenban: 1
VIZBIG: DB 1 (printed in gray scale)

Chapter 3
Goku finds a sea turtle lost in the mountains. He and Bulma take it back to the sea, and run into a bear bandit who Goku defeats. At the sea, the sea turtle swims off and brings back some weird old guy.
Kanzenban: 1
VIZBIG: DB 1 (printed in gray scale)

Chapter 4
Goku and Bulma meet Kame-sennin, who gives Goku the Kinto-un. Bulma receives a dragonball from Kame-sennin after flashing him her panties, but Goku stole her panties earlier…When Bulma finds out she was actually nude, she shoots Goku. They then set out again and arrive in a strange village that seems abandoned.
Kanzenban: 1
VIZBIG: DB 1 (printed in gray scale)

Chapter 5
Goku and Bulma have arrived at a village terrorized by the shape-shifting Oolong, who takes their daughters as his brides. They use a not all that ingenious ploy to try and find Oolong’s hideout and the girls, but Oolong sees through it and transforms into a monstrous bull to battle Goku. Only the title page and the first three pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 1
VIZBIG: DB 1 (printed in gray scale)

Chapter 19
Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai have Goku and co. trapped. They use first a blown kiss and then sleeping gas to obtain the last dragonball from them. When Goku and co. try to escape, Pilaf summons Shenlong. The title page isn’t in color, but the rest of the chapter is.
Kanzenban: 2
VIZBIG: DB 1

Chapter 25
After a disastrous fist attempt at Goku finding a girl, Kame-sennin tries to explain the kind of girl he’s looking for. Goku next brings back a mermaid, but that doesn’t work out either. A strange boy named Kuririn then shows up and asks Kame-sennin to take him on as a disciple. Only the title page and the first nine pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 2
VIZBIG: DB 1 (printed in gray scale)

Chapter 33
Goku’s first appearance in his classic Kame dougi. Goku and Kuririn register for the Tenkaichi Budoukai and begin the preliminaries. Goku defeats a giant man, while Kuririn defeats one of his former seniors from Oorin Temple. Only the title page and the first eight pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 3
VIZBIG: DB 1 (everything except title page printed in gray scale)

Chapter 40
Having wrapped Goku up in his Guru-Guru Gum, Giran throws Goku out of the ring. Goku uses Kinto-un to avoid a ring-out, and Giran surrenders when the newly re-tailed Goku breaks out from the Guru-Guru Gum. Only the title page and the first two pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 3
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 44
Goku and Namu begin their match. Goku pushes Namu back with a Zanzou-ken and a spinning attack, so Namu brings out his special move, the Tenkuu Peke-ji Ken. The chapter ends as he bears down on Goku.
Kanzenban: 3
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 45
Namu nails Goku with the Tenkuu Peke-ji Ken, but he messes up and Goku gets up again. Namu then tries the Super Tenkuu Peke-ji Ken, but Goku dodges it and kicks him out of bounds.
Kanzenban: 4
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 48
Jacky Chun attacks Goku with the 2-fold Zanzou-ken, and Goku counters with a 3-fold Zanzou-ken. Jacky Chun then uses the Suiken, throwing off Goku by pretending to be drunk. Goku can’t copy this, so instead he imitates a mad dog. Only the title page and the first six pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 4
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 55
The Red Ribbon Army is introduced. Goku finds a dragonball and defeats Colonel Silver’s underlings. Colonel Silver then uses a bazooka to take down Kinto-un, and confronts Goku. Only the title page and the first five pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 4
VIZBIG: 2

Chapter 57
Goku wakes up in Sno’s house, having been saved by her when he froze outside. Sno explains about the Red Ribbon Army and the village’s mayor. Goku defeats the RR soldiers who come for him, then heads to storm Muscle Tower to rescue the mayor.
Kanzenban: 4
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 62
Goku battles Murasaki inside Muscle Tower. Murasaki calls out his four brothers, but Goku defeats them, forcing Murasaki to go bring out Android No.8.
Kanzenban: 5
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 70
General Blue is introduced, and executes one of his underlings for picking his nose. Goku and Bulma try to find the dragonball on the ocean floor, but Bulma’s capsules contain her dad’s porn instead of vehicles, and Goku can’t hold his breath long enough to find the dragonball. Only the title page and eight pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 5
VIZBIG: DB 2

Chapter 75
The pirate robot attacks Goku and co. In order to find the dragonball, Bulma and Kuririn leave Goku behind to fight the robot. General Blue follows them, altering the direction sign they leave for Goku. Goku beats the robot, but is fooled by Blue’s altered direction sign.
Kanzenban: 6
VIZBIG: DB 3

Chapter 81
One of two chapters that are entirely in full color. As summer vacation begins in Penguin Village, Goku and General Blue battle in the skies overhead. Blue crashes, and Goku meets Arale and the Gatchans.
Kanzenban: 6
VIZBIG: DB 3

Chapter 86
Tao Pai Pai arrives in the Karin Holy Land. He effortlessly kills Bora, then defeats Goku with his Dodon-pa.
Kanzenban: 6
VIZBIG: DB 3

Chapter 93
Goku sets off to storm the Red Ribbon Army headquarters. At Kame House, Bulma and co. are horrified when they realize Goku’s plan. Commander Red and Assistant Black are shocked when they realize Goku is the one carrying the dragonballs and not Tao Pai Pai.
Kanzenban: 7
VIZBIG: DB 3

Chapter 106
Goku and the masked man fight evenly. The masked man fires a Kamehameha, but Goku dodges it with a Zanzou-ken.
Kanzenban: 8
VIZBIG: DB 3

Chapter 110
In their fancy new robots, Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai attempt to grab Goku’s tail, but realize he no longer has one. They then merge their robots into one, but Goku blows the giant robot’s arm off, then defeats the fleeing Pilaf and co. and takes their dragonball.
Kanzenban: 8
VIZBIG: DB 4

Chapter 121
Kuririn evades Chaozu’s Dodon-pa and hits him with his Kamehameha. Chaozu then uses his paralyzing technique, but Kuririn counters it with basic math.
Kanzenban: 9
VIZBIG: DB 4

Chapter 130
Goku and Tenshinhan engage in a Zanzou-ken war, and Goku comes out on top. Tenshinhan then uses the Taiyo-ken, but Goku counters it by stealing some sunglasses. Tenshinhan then starts to attack Goku again, but Goku is strangely immobile…
Kanzenban: 9
VIZBIG: DB 4

Chapter 149
With Bora’s help, Yajirobe and Goku begin climbing Karin Tower. Meanwhile, Piccolo Daimao invades King Castle, kills the guards, and corners the King.
Kanzenban: 10
VIZBIG: DB 5

Chapter 155
Having easily killed Drum, Goku challenges Piccolo Daimao, and the two begin an evenly-matched battle.
Kanzenban: 11
VIZBIG: DB 5

Chapter 163
Goku uses the Nyoibo to ascend to Kami’s palace. There he meets Mister Popo, who begins to test him, but Goku is helpless before Popo.
Kanzenban: 11
VIZBIG: DB 5

Chapter 178
Outmatched by Goku’s new pants-stealing speed, Tenshinhan brings out the Shishin no Ken, and seems to overwhelm Goku.
Kanzenban: 12
VIZBIG: DB 5 or 6

Chapter 187
Now a giant, Piccolo attacks Goku, but Goku manages to counter him. Piccolo grows even bigger, but Goku propels himself inside his body and rescues Kami.
Kanzenban: 13
VIZBIG: DB 5 or 6

Chapter 196 (DBZ 2)
Gohan’s first appearance. Bulma comes to Kame House, followed by Goku and Gohan. Raditz then arrives, and attacks Kuririn.
Kanzenban: 14
VIZBIG: DBZ 1

Chapter 205 (DBZ 11)
One of two chapters that are entirely in full color. Piccolo takes Gohan for training, while in the afterlife Goku meets with Enma Daio and sets out on the Serpent Road.
Kanzenban: 14
VIZBIG: DBZ 1

Chapter 228 (DBZ 34)
Goku and Vegeta begin to fight. Outmatched by Vegeta, Goku uses the Kaio-ken, but fails to overpower Vegeta.
Kanzenban: 16
VIZBIG: DBZ 1 (printed in gray scale)

Chapter 229 (DBZ 35)
Vegeta displays his power to Goku, shaking the Earth. Goku uses Kaio-ken x2, but still can’t keep up with Vegeta.
Kanzenban: 16
VIZBIG: DBZ 2

Chapter 236 (DBZ 42)
As Gohan fights Vegeta, Goku transfers the Genki Dama to Kuririn. Kuririn fires the Genki Dama, but thanks to Yajirobe Vegeta manages to dodge it.
Kanzenban: 16
VIZBIG: DBZ 2

Chapter 247 (DBZ 53)
Freeza’s first appearance. Bulma, Gohan, and Kuririn land on Planet Namek, closely followed by Vegeta and Kui. Meanwhile, Freeza and his men find a dragonball.
Kanzenban: 17
VIZBIG: DBZ 2

Chapter 255 (DBZ 61)
Freeza and his men kill Muri and Kargo. Outraged, Gohan attacks Dodoria. Gohan, Kuririn, and Dende escape, with Dodoria in pursuit.
Kanzenban: 18
VIZBIG: DBZ 2

Chapter 256 (DBZ 62)
Kuririn and co. manage to elude Dodoria. Dodoria is then attacked by Vegeta. Only the title page and three pages of this chapter are in color.
Kanzenban: 18
VIZBIG: DBZ 2

Chapter 272 (DBZ 78)
The Ginyu Special-Squad lands on Planet Namek and quickly catches up with Vegeta, Gohan, and Kuririn. In space, Goku prepares to arrive on Planet Namek.
Kanzenban: 19
VIZBIG: DBZ 3

Chapter 287 (DBZ 93)
Ginyu has succeeded in stealing Goku’s body, and flies off to Freeza’s spaceship. Gohan and Kuririn borrow the Dragon Radar from Bulma, find the dragonballs at Freeza’s ship, and attempt to summon Polunga. Nothing happens, and then Ginyu and Jheeze arrive.
Kanzenban: 20
VIZBIG: DBZ 3

Chapter 305 (DBZ 111)
Final-form Freeza completely overwhelms Piccolo, Gohan, and Kuririn. Now powered up from his near-death experience, Vegeta fights Freeza but has similar results.
Kanzenban: 21
VIZBIG: DBZ 4

Chapter 323 (DBZ 129)
Freeza clashes against Goku’s Kamehameha, but manages to knock Goku into the sea. All the Namekians are revived along with Vegeta, and Goku asks Kaio to leave him on Planet Namek to fight Freeza.
Kanzenban: 22
VIZBIG: DBZ 4

Chapter 337 (DBZ 143)
Everyone gathers to go face the androids, Bulma shows up with baby Trunks, and No.19 and No.20 appear.
Kanzenban: 23
VIZBIG: DBZ 4

Chapter 354 (DBZ 160)
No.17 and No.18 easily defeat Vegeta, Trunks, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan, then chat with Kuririn.
Kanzenban: 24
VIZBIG: DBZ 5

Chapter 371 (DBZ 177)
Cell overpowers No.17, and No.16 steps up to fight Cell.
Kanzenban: 25
VIZBIG: DBZ 5

Chapter 386 (DBZ 192)
Trunks transforms into Super Saiyan Grade Three, and distracts Cell while Kuririn rescues Vegeta.
Kanzenban: 26
VIZBIG: DBZ 6

Chapter 404 (DBZ 210)
Gohan powers up before Cell, surprising everyone with his power, and he and Cell begin to fight.
Kanzenban: 27
VIZBIG: DBZ 6

Chapter 411 (DBZ 217)
Cell regenerates after being devastated by Gohan’s Kamehameha in the previous chapter. Angry at Gohan, he becomes gigantic, but Gohan makes him revert to his second form. Cell then begins to self-destruct.
Kanzenban: 28
VIZBIG: DBZ 7

Chapter 452 (DBZ 258)
Dabra appears before Goku and the others. Before he and Gohan begin to fight, the scene switches to the Tenkaichi Budoukai, where the Battle Royal is beginning.
Kanzenban: 30
VIZBIG: DBZ 8

Chapter 482 (DBZ 288)
Goten and Trunks form Super Gotenks, but waste lots of time and split up again before they can fight Buu.
Kanzenban: 32
VIZBIG: DBZ 8

Chapter 501 (DBZ 307)
Gotenks-absorbed Buu torments Gohan, Tenshinhan appears, and the Elder Kaioshin gives Goku the potara.
Kanzenban: 33
VIZBIG: DBZ 9

Chapter 512 (DBZ 318)
Pure Buu spits out the good Buu, and Goku falls out of Super Saiyan 3.
Kanzenban: 34
VIZBIG: DBZ 9

Chapter 519 (DBZ 325)
The final chapter. Pan fights Mou Kekko at the 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai, and then Goku and Uub have their match…
Kanzenban: 34
VIZBIG: DBZ 9

Trunks the Story/The History of Trunks
DragonBall’s only side-story. In an alternate future, Trunks trains with Gohan, Gohan is killed by the androids, and three years later Trunks sets out for the past. Only the title page and first two pages are in color.
Kanzenban: 34
VIZBIG: DBZ 6

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:08 pm

Good to know; I plan on (eventually) buying all the kanzenban.

I really like these guides.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:21 pm

Great guide Herms, it was a great read!

There is one thing that I was wondering: how do the full color palette colored pages in the first few chapters of Dragonball compare to the full color palette colored pages in the last few chapters of Dragonball (Kanzenban volume 34)?

Also, what color chapter do you think is the best, in both artwork and how well deserved the coloring was for that chapter?

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:21 pm

Nice read!

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:26 pm

Mewzard · Post by **Mewzard** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:39 pm

My Rurouni Kenshin Vizbig volumes (I have 1 and 2, but need to get 3) have some color pages, but I heard they don't have all the color pages, strangely enough. Still, its a good value, and the RK volumes seem uncensored.

Haseowolf · Post by **Haseowolf** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:58 pm

The Dragonball and Dragonball Z VIZBIG editions do indeed have color chapters, unfortunately it is only a few.

For Dragonball, the color chapters are : 1, 2 and 19

For Dragonball Z, the color chapters are : 2 and 11.

It's sad to see that the orignally colored Vegeta fight, is in grayscale, but I'm happy with my purchase.

Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:01 pm

Wow. Yeah, no more VIZBIG editions for me. If I get told there's gonna be color chapters included, I expect ALL of it, and ESPECIALLY not for important, notable color chapters like Goku vs Vegeta to be the ones omitted. I'll see if the upcoming Collector's Editions retain it like they're supposed to. I flipped through the Bleach one in the store today, and it looked pretty nice, although the paper quality was nowhere near as good as the VIZBIG material. :/

Geez, VIZ, make up your minds already.

Post by **Herms** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:02 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:There is one thing that I was wondering: how do the full color palette colored pages in the first few chapters pf Dragonball compare to the full color palette colored pages in the last few chapters of Dragonball (Kanzenban volume 34)?

The early full color pages seem to have softer colors and a wider variety of colors compared to the later ones. I think overall they get...I don't want to say "worse", but it seems Toriyama puts less work into them. That only applies to the actual color story pages though. The color title pages seem to get more detailed as the series goes on. The limited palette pages also seem to get better as the series goes on, with more detail in how the color is applied.

Also, what color chapter do you think is the best, in both artwork and how well deserved the coloring was for that chapter?

I don't think I could page a single best, so here's my top seven:

Chapter 155 (Goku battles Piccolo Daimao): The beginning of one of my favorite fights. Piccolo looks really bad-ass in gray in this chapter.

Chapters 228 and 229 (Goku and Vegeta fight): Not one of my favorite battles, but I know lots of people like it, and the color artwork is done very well. One of the few instances of back-to-back color chapters.

Chapter 305 (Final-form Freeza beats everyone): I love both final-form Freeza and scenes where one guy outclasses a bunch of people, so I like this chapter. The use of red in this chapter is really great. In the limited palette parts, there are several panels with Freeza, red-eyed and his usually purple segments jet black, stands against a vivid red background. Those are some of my all-time favorite panels.

Chapter 323 (SSJ Goku vs. Freeza): In the full color parts, Goku and Freeza's beam struggle looks amazing. For the limited palette parts, SSJ Goku looks really cool with white hair and red eyes, and Freeza looks good in gray and black.

Chapter 354 (androids beat everyone): I think the action in this chapter is outstanding, and the full color panels where No.18 blocks Trunks' sword looks amazing.

Chapter 404 (Gohan begins to fight Cell): The title page that shows Gohan's development over the series is one of my favorites. Cell looks good in gray, and the coloring on SSJ Gohan's hair is very well detailed.

Chapter 519 (final chapter): The title page and the image of Goku and Bulma's first meeting are very well done. Aside from those everything is in a limited palette, but there seems to be a lot of care and detail in how the color is applied. Particularly, I think the skin in this chapter looks very good for some reason. In the kanzenban, you get Toriyama's new pages, and they look good, plus it's always nice to see his newer work.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:03 pm

Kinda funny that the DB VizBig doesn't keep all their color ones, but Kenshin's VizBig's do, and fix some typos the smaller versions had. Though it's still weird seeing Misao's outfit colored differently than it was in the anime.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:41 pm

Fuck, Herms. You are the man.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:48 pm

Man, if you only you made this guide back when I was hunting down kanzenban volumes for the purpose of getting some of the better color chapters. I didn't exactly know which color chapters were "better" than others, so I went with the idea that the darker and harsher on the eyes the grayscale version of the chapter was, the better the color chapter would really be. With that in mind, one of the first kanzenban I picked up was the one when SSJ Goku fires off his kamehameha against Freeza

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kusakun004 · Post by **kusakun004** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:13 am

Maybe VIZ didn't get all the colored chapters or something. Were all the colored chapters printed in the SJ magazine when DBZ was in it?

Post by **Herms** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:34 am

I remember that DBZ 143 was printed in color (and advertised as "DBZ in color for the first time outside of Japan!"), and I think the full color pages in DBZ 160 were in color, but the rest was in the greyscale. And they had the (censored) cover to DBZ 171 in color, the one with everyone flipping the bird, but I don't remember what they did with the rest of the chapter.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:01 pm

kusakun004 wrote:Maybe VIZ didn't get all the colored chapters or something. Were all the colored chapters printed in the SJ magazine when DBZ was in it?

Viz knows of the existence of the Dragonball Kanzenban, and they are pratically owned by Shueisha. So them not getting material for a big release is just nonsense. They are saving that material for another release.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:39 pm

Raki wrote:
kusakun004 wrote:Maybe VIZ didn't get all the colored chapters or something. Were all the colored chapters printed in the SJ magazine when DBZ was in it?
Viz knows of the existence of the Dragonball Kanzenban, and they are pratically owned by Shueisha. So them not getting material for a big release is just nonsense. They are saving that material for another release.

I really think/hope that that release will be the Dragonball mnga "Collectors Editions".

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:52 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Raki wrote:
kusakun004 wrote:Maybe VIZ didn't get all the colored chapters or something. Were all the colored chapters printed in the SJ magazine when DBZ was in it?
Viz knows of the existence of the Dragonball Kanzenban, and they are pratically owned by Shueisha. So them not getting material for a big release is just nonsense. They are saving that material for another release.
I really think/hope that that release will be the Dragonball mnga "Collectors Editions".

I doubt it. The edition you named probably will be just another gimmick to get people to think they are buying something special. Why would they have the Kanzenban be the Collector's Edition when they can sell it alone and still make more money?

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:02 pm

And aas I posted, Kenshin's getting its colored pages, while DB and DBZ isn't for some reason. Then again, some of those Kenshin ones have pages that make more sense colored like what was with Shuu's "KIIIN".

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:26 am

Raki wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:
Raki wrote:Viz knows of the existence of the Dragonball Kanzenban, and they are pratically owned by Shueisha. So them not getting material for a big release is just nonsense. They are saving that material for another release.
I really think/hope that that release will be the Dragonball mnga "Collectors Editions".
I doubt it. The edition you named probably will be just another gimmick to get people to think they are buying something special. Why would they have the Kanzenban be the Collector's Edition when they can sell it alone and still make more money?

It says that it will have colored pages, rated "T" and is hard cover, so there is a good chance that it will be like the Kanzenban, or at least an unedited version. But your right, even though that is how it sounds we know that there is a good chance that it will be nothing more than a re-release of what they've already released.

Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:30 pm

I flipped through the Bleach "Collector's Edition" Volume One the other day (only one that's out so far, I'm pretty sure), and it looked okay. Decent paper quality (not MUCH better than the regular volumes, maybe not any different), color pages, hardcover, etc... It was all there.

But the question is, whether or not they'll continue on through the entire series, or if it's a one-shot thing for each of them, only doing the first volume. I haven't seen any "Vol 2"s listed anywhere... yet.

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