Fact Checker (update: Ep.51)

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.38)

Post by Puto » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:29 am

EmmaWinters wrote:  18:21 | Vegeta: "He's only saying that because he doesn't know the Kaiō-ken. The Kaiō-ken may enhance your fighting abilities, but in exchange, it burns through your stamina like nothing else! And Super Saiyan on its own already forces the body far past its limits, so using that technique on top of Super Saiyan is practically suicide! I'm sure that's why he's kept the Kaiō-ken off limits for so long."
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.39)

Post by EmmaWinters » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:37 am

You're right! Fixed. Thanks Puto~
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.39)

Post by EmmaWinters » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:17 pm

Updated.
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.39)

Post by The Doc » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:07 pm

EmmaWinters wrote:
 06:47 | Cabba: "Hit-san's pride wouldn't allow him to win like..."
 06:50 | Hit: "Who cares?! This contest is between me and Beerus."
 07:01 | Hit: "You're nothing but pawns in our game!"
 07:31 | Goku: "Let's show him we're more than just pawns!"
These lines you have marked as said by Hit were actually said by Champa.

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.40)

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun May 01, 2016 7:59 pm

Context: Champa urges Hit to avoid Goku's Kaiō-ken until it runs out.

 06:47 | Cabba: "Hit-san's pride wouldn't allow him to win like..."
 06:50 | Champa: "Who cares?! This contest is between me and Beerus."

Significance: Hit does not approve of Floyd Mayweather.
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.40)

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun May 01, 2016 8:13 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Context: Champa urges Hit to avoid Goku's Kaiō-ken until it runs out.

 06:47 | Cabba: "Hit-san's pride wouldn't allow him to win like..."
 06:50 | Champa: "Who cares?! This contest is between me and Beerus."

Significance: Hit does not approve of Floyd Mayweather.
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.40)

Post by EmmaWinters » Mon May 02, 2016 12:01 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Context: Champa urges Hit to avoid Goku's Kaiō-ken until it runs out.

 06:47 | Cabba: "Hit-san's pride wouldn't allow him to win like..."
 06:50 | Champa: "Who cares?! This contest is between me and Beerus."

Significance: Hit does not approve of Floyd Mayweather.
HAHHH.

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Sodhi » Mon May 02, 2016 12:41 am

Pretty surprised that DragonTeam missed the whole sumo wrestlers and samurai hairstyle thing. However they did translate the language of gods, which I give them props for.

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 02, 2016 9:25 am

Context: Goku approaches Hit.

 07:55 | Goku: "I ain't sure when the King of All's competition is gonna be. Think you can wait 'til then?"
 08:01 | Goku: "If not, I'm fine fightin' it out again somewhere in three days or so."
 08:07 | Goku: "...Oh, is three days no good?"
 08:09 | Goku: "Tomorrow then, okay?"
 08:14 | Goku: "See ya!"

Significance: Goku attempts to arrange a playdate with Hit, but gets no response.
But Hit's parents tell Goku he can't come out to play, leaving Goku sad.

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Ajay » Mon May 02, 2016 10:00 am

Sodhi wrote:Pretty surprised that DragonTeam missed the whole sumo wrestlers and samurai hairstyle thing. However they did translate the language of gods, which I give them props for.
They didn't miss it, they just wrote themselves into a corner by using "Pretty Peas" as their adaptation of the summoning. They adapted the sumo/samurai line to fit their original adaptation, which I thought was pretty clever.

Their version:
"Pretty peas"? What does "pretty peas" mean?
Come on, it's a cutesy way of saying "pretty please".
There's no equivalent of that in the language of the Gods!
It has the same meaning, it's just adapted to make sense with their original word choice.
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by MozillaVulpix » Tue May 03, 2016 9:49 pm

This whole "chonmage" business made me really curious about what FUNimation will handle it. Heck, even how Toonami Asia will handle it.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by DragonHermit » Wed May 04, 2016 12:23 am

Is it confirmed that Zeno is a great fighter. Beerus says "if he wished for it, he can destroy all 12 universe in the blink of an eye". The "if he wished for" line caught my attention. Does he some magical power or access to magical power rather than being a great fighter?

Wish I could speak Japanese in times like these. :|

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by EmmaWinters » Wed May 04, 2016 1:15 am

DragonHermit wrote:Beerus says "if he wished for it, he can destroy all 12 universe in the blink of an eye". The "if he wished for" line caught my attention. Does he some magical power or access to magical power rather than being a great fighter?
The original line simply means that if the King of All chose to, he could wipe out all 12 universes (no mention of making a "wish"). I suppose magical techniques/powers aren't out of the question, but they certainly aren't implied.
DragonHermit wrote:Is it confirmed that Zeno is a great fighter.
There is no mention of combat prowess or physical strength.
MozillaVulpix wrote:This whole "chonmage" business made me really curious about what FUNimation will handle it. Heck, even how Toonami Asia will handle it.
I'm very interested in finding out!
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Herms » Wed May 04, 2016 1:51 am

So this bit...
12:57 | Jaco: "He's vanishing mid-attack. Completely."
 13:22 | Galactic King: "He might be time-skipping. I've only heard rumors about it myself, but supposedly some people can cause a slight skip in time. I believe it was roughly a 0.1 second skip. Simply put, he can freeze time for everything but himself for 0.1 seconds."
 13:51 | Goku: "Freeze things for 0.1 seconds?"
 13:54 | Jaco: "It may just be 0.1 seconds, but for someone as quick as him,"
 13:59 | Jaco: "that's more than enough time to gain an advantage."
...incorrectly attributed the line "Simply put, he can freeze time for everything but himself for 0.1 seconds" to the Galactic King, when actually it was said by Jaco. Fixed now. I apologize for any confusion.
DragonHermit wrote:Is it confirmed that Zeno is a great fighter. Beerus says "if he wished for it, he can destroy all 12 universe in the blink of an eye". The "if he wished for" line caught my attention. Does he some magical power or access to magical power rather than being a great fighter?
The phrase in Japanese is ki ni nareba, "if he felt like it". It's not related to the word used in Japanese for making wishes to the dragon or anything like that (the word for that kind of wish is negai).
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Bonus Stage » Fri May 06, 2016 3:58 pm

Herms wrote:18:10 | Beerus: "Xis Esrevinu fo dniknamuh dna Htrae eht erotser."
How to say it in hiragana, or as it was said in the anime?

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Sandubadear » Fri May 06, 2016 4:03 pm

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Herms wrote:18:10 | Beerus: "Xis Esrevinu fo dniknamuh dna Htrae eht erotser."
How to say it in hiragana, or as it was said in the anime?
Here:
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Except for the "chonmage", all syllables are backwards.
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by EmmaWinters » Fri May 06, 2016 4:06 pm

Bonus Stage wrote:
Herms wrote:18:10 | Beerus: "Xis Esrevinu fo dniknamuh dna Htrae eht erotser."
How to say it in hiragana, or as it was said in the anime?
As shown above, the wish is written backwards in Katakana:
ロセラエガミヨ ヲイルンジ トウユキチ ノウユチウクロイダ。

Which in regular (non-backwards) Japanese would be:
第六宇宙の 地球と 人類を よみがえらせろ。
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by Speedster » Sun May 22, 2016 5:20 pm

In episode 44 at around min 13:50 Gryll explains that the "superhuman water" can increase one's power by what? 100 or "hundreds" of times? Herms translated as "hundreds", the subs I watched say "hundred". I can hear the 百="hyaku"=100 part but does he actually say 何百="Nan hyaku"="hundreds"? Can someone write down the exact sentence in Japanese?

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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by EmmaWinters » Sun May 22, 2016 5:28 pm

Speedster wrote:In episode 44 at around min 13:50 Gryll explains that the "superhuman water" can increase one's power by what? 100 or "hundreds" of times? Herms translated as "hundreds", the subs I watched say "hundred". I can hear the 百="hyaku"=100 part but does he actually say 何百="Nan hyaku"="hundreds"? Can someone write down the exact sentence in Japanese?
Herms is correct, 何百倍 is "hundreds of times" or "several hundred times". It isn't precise.
超人水。 飲めば 力が 何百倍にもなるという奇跡の水。
"The Superhuman Water. A miraculous water that, once drank, increases your power hundreds of times over."
Thanks for pointing that out! I'll be sure to mention this line.
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Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.41)

Post by EmmaWinters » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:24 am

Updated! I'll be handling the next arc a bit quicker than this, so if you
have any questions this coming weekend, feel free to ask away.
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