He couldn't even go Super Saiyan anymore. Elder Kai unlocked all of his hidden powers.JulieYBM wrote:I don't know, I just find it hard that Gohan's hit the roof like that. Saiyan's grow more mighty with their rage and we all know Gohan's got plenty of that.
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I thought the old Kaioshin said he simply didn't need to go SSj anymore, not that he couldn't.
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Well, not if Toriyama wanted him to not win...Rocketman wrote:If he could, he would've when Gotenks-Buu was bitch-slapping him.desirecampbell wrote:I thought the old Kaioshin said he simply didn't need to go SSj anymore, not that he couldn't.
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Not if it wouldn't do him any good. If he already had his dormant power drawn out, the becoming a Super Saiyan wouldn't change anything.Rocketman wrote:If he could, he would've when Gotenks-Buu was bitch-slapping him.
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OK, so my translating juice is full again. Or something. Lot of speech bubbles where people are just going "...!!" in this one. What the hell is that, anyway? Does "...!!" sound any different than "..."? Well, anyway, here's the translation:
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1st panel: Just Gohan going “ha” again and again.
3rd panel
Xikor: You really got carried away...!!
4th panel
Gohan: [r] ...! [l] Guh!!!
92
3rd panel
Kaioshin: Yaah!!!
93
3rd panel
Kaioshin: Kuh
4th panel
Elder Kaioshin: [above] Y...you intend on using that technique?!!! [bottom] Stop, it's too dangerous! You'll die yourself!!!
5th panel
Trunks: ...!
Vegeta: I thought Gohan's stamina had been restored, and then he let loose all his power at once...
94
1st panel
Trunks: ...What's going on?
2nd panel
Vegata: It's most likely some sort of strategy...
Trunks: Strategy!?
3rd panel
Vegeta: That damned Kaioshin, disregarding me, the #1 Saiyan...!!!
4th panel
Vegeta: [r] Are you saying I'm not dependable?...[l] You're full of it...!!!
6th panel
Kaioshin: [up] ...! [down] He's moving too fast for me to catch...!!!
95
5th panel
Magic disembodied voice of Vegeta: Get out of the way, Gohan!!!
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3rd panel
Vegeta: Take this, you bastard!
4th panel
Gohan: Vegeta-san!!
5th panel
Vegeta: Final Flash!!!
91
1st panel: Just Gohan going “ha” again and again.
3rd panel
Xikor: You really got carried away...!!
4th panel
Gohan: [r] ...! [l] Guh!!!
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3rd panel
Kaioshin: Yaah!!!
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3rd panel
Kaioshin: Kuh
4th panel
Elder Kaioshin: [above] Y...you intend on using that technique?!!! [bottom] Stop, it's too dangerous! You'll die yourself!!!
5th panel
Trunks: ...!
Vegeta: I thought Gohan's stamina had been restored, and then he let loose all his power at once...
94
1st panel
Trunks: ...What's going on?
2nd panel
Vegata: It's most likely some sort of strategy...
Trunks: Strategy!?
3rd panel
Vegeta: That damned Kaioshin, disregarding me, the #1 Saiyan...!!!
4th panel
Vegeta: [r] Are you saying I'm not dependable?...[l] You're full of it...!!!
6th panel
Kaioshin: [up] ...! [down] He's moving too fast for me to catch...!!!
95
5th panel
Magic disembodied voice of Vegeta: Get out of the way, Gohan!!!
96
3rd panel
Vegeta: Take this, you bastard!
4th panel
Gohan: Vegeta-san!!
5th panel
Vegeta: Final Flash!!!
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Oh, for the right speech bubble for Xicor on the first of the new pages, he's going "Hmph". Sorry, I missed that the first time.
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What major villain did Vegeta kill?finnishjuoppo wrote:I don't think soGenki-Dama wrote:Wow will this be the first time Vegeta actually kills a major villain?
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The one thing that I found unfair is this: Vegeta kills a semi-major villain or weak villain in each saga (Nappa, Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Recoome, Guldo, Jheese, #19, Butta, Saibaimen Pui Pui). But whenever he's got the upper hand on a major villain,(Cell, Yī Xīng Lóng(well, that was SSJ4 Gogeta's fault)) things go wrong. He usually blows it, due to arrogance. But his actions always seem to result in good after effects, without anyone knowing.Captain Awesome wrote:He means that Vegeta isn't going to kill Xicor.Pain wrote:What major villain did Vegeta kill?finnishjuoppo wrote: I don't think so
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And I saw the new pages on Toyble's site as well. Vegeta's attack didn't look strong enough to kill Xicor. And is Kibitoshin trying to seal Xicor away in the Z Sword?
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I'm kind of confused as to which sword that is. Kaoshin got it from Tapion, but Tapion's sword should be with Trunks, right? If it's the Z Sword, shouldn't it be broken in two?
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This is what it says on pages 81 and 82 about it.Herms wrote:I'm kind of confused as to which sword that is. Kaoshin got it from Tapion, but Tapion's sword should be with Trunks, right? If it's the Z Sword, shouldn't it be broken in two?
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Looks like he's gonna seal Xicor away for a long time.
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OK, thanks then. I guess I forgot about that part.
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Not trying to defend GT or anything, but SSJ4 needs a high amount of Blutz waves, (at least, the 1st time for Goku, but Vegeta seemingly needs that for every transformation, so it seems that Goku somehow internalized the energy) so, maybe, that external energy source would allow the Saiyan to surpass their limits.Rocketman wrote: While I disagree, there's a much worse thing about it - Gohan's Mystic form was his absolute max, and he should no more be able to go SSJ4 than SSJ1.
It'd explain why Kaioshin didn't bother to make the same ritual for Goku in GT.