Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
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Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmzhH3X_V3E
I recently saw this and it doesn't sound that bad. It's quite decent to be honest. And I have a feeling that many people in the future will prefer hearing something like this rather than having other voice actors playing Goku, Vegeta or any other character.
What would you like to see in the future? Replacing the VAs with new ones or having AI voices of the old ones?
I recently saw this and it doesn't sound that bad. It's quite decent to be honest. And I have a feeling that many people in the future will prefer hearing something like this rather than having other voice actors playing Goku, Vegeta or any other character.
What would you like to see in the future? Replacing the VAs with new ones or having AI voices of the old ones?
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
No this is literally putting them out of a job.
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I can totally see Toei going this route so they don't have to deal with recasting Goku when Nozawa passes. They shouldn't, but they'd likely rather take the path of least resistance than deal with that headache.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
I really hope they dont do that. It would be the literal worst.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
Recast, just like they shouldn't use CG to recreate actors who have died. Just recast with a younger actor.
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Just use new actors, holy shit. I'm here for the human connection, a computer's soulless recreation of a dead actor.
What the fuck is it with geeks refusing to accept change?
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
This would actually BE a change but one for the worse.
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I'd rather human voice actors but developing AI technology could be useful for fan-creators.
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It's lifeless...TheRed259 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 6:18 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmzhH3X_V3E
I recently saw this and it doesn't sound that bad. It's quite decent to be honest. And I have a feeling that many people in the future will prefer hearing something like this rather than having other voice actors playing Goku, Vegeta or any other character.
What would you like to see in the future? Replacing the VAs with new ones or having AI voices of the old ones?
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She means refusing a recast by just having AI of deceased voice actors instead of actual replacements. Which isn't accepting change.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:24 amThis would actually BE a change but one for the worse.
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I know but it is still a change, I get what she really meant though.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
Recasting the voices. I'd rather have a flawed, but sincere new take on a character than a perfect, soulless recreation of the voice as-is.
Alden Ehrenreich didn't sound and feel EXACTLY like Harrison Ford's Han Solo but he did his best to do the character justice while also making it his own.
Alden Ehrenreich didn't sound and feel EXACTLY like Harrison Ford's Han Solo but he did his best to do the character justice while also making it his own.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
I hate the current AI discourse, because a lot of people seem to forget that a machine is unable to think or feel, nothing that they create comes from a heart. Thankfully, it seems most people here at Kanzenshuu do agree with that sentiment.
A poorly directed actor is still leagues better than a "perfect" AI, because the flaws the machine has are inherent to what it is, for example, drawings generated on AI are looking a lot better now than they did one year ago, but that's just because they have more data, they still have the same problems of not being able to actually create, you can only create an image as unique as its database allows, there are a lot of limitations that comes with this.
No matter how much the AI seems to be improving, it's only getting better at replicating human creation, it is not actually getting better at creating anything, it's just doing the exact same thing with more data, which means it's literally useless on its own. AI needs actual work of humans to generate anything.
Also, there is the fact that it is incredibly unethical to generate stuff with AI to use because you're just taking advantage of the work of other people for your own proffit (And almost always it is going to be without their consent). The last thing I want is corporations getting even more ways of taking advantage of creators. I can accept a new Goku voice, but if they ever try to replace it with a machine, then I'll be forced to join Vegeta with his technophobia
A poorly directed actor is still leagues better than a "perfect" AI, because the flaws the machine has are inherent to what it is, for example, drawings generated on AI are looking a lot better now than they did one year ago, but that's just because they have more data, they still have the same problems of not being able to actually create, you can only create an image as unique as its database allows, there are a lot of limitations that comes with this.
No matter how much the AI seems to be improving, it's only getting better at replicating human creation, it is not actually getting better at creating anything, it's just doing the exact same thing with more data, which means it's literally useless on its own. AI needs actual work of humans to generate anything.
Also, there is the fact that it is incredibly unethical to generate stuff with AI to use because you're just taking advantage of the work of other people for your own proffit (And almost always it is going to be without their consent). The last thing I want is corporations getting even more ways of taking advantage of creators. I can accept a new Goku voice, but if they ever try to replace it with a machine, then I'll be forced to join Vegeta with his technophobia
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
My go to example would be Ewan McGregor who had to play an iconic part played by an iconic actor and turned in a performance that may actually exceed, or at the very least match his predecessor's performance. He's successfully able to create something that's reminiscent of the original performance without being a carbon copy. Alden doesn't do that. He's okay, but it doesn't feel like Han Solo.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:39 am Recasting the voices. I'd rather have a flawed, but sincere new take on a character than a perfect, soulless recreation of the voice as-is.
Alden Ehrenreich didn't sound and feel EXACTLY like Harrison Ford's Han Solo but he did his best to do the character justice while also making it his own.
I get your point, though.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
Yes, i feel that McGregor overall captured the essence of Alec Guiness' performance from the original trilogy in his own take for the prequels and both feel like they flow together while not feeling like a total emulation, while Ehrenreich's Han in "Solo" is much more in the other direction along the lines of something like Chris Pine's Kirk in the reboot/Kelvin-verse Star Trek films. A performance that's more trying to have the character be made his own than emulating, because the latter wasn't really going for trying to match Bill Shatner's take from the OG Trek series and films in terms of character and portrayal therein.ABED wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 1:02 pmMy go to example would be Ewan McGregor who had to play an iconic part played by an iconic actor and turned in a performance that may actually exceed, or at the very least match his predecessor's performance. He's successfully able to create something that's reminiscent of the original performance without being a carbon copy. Alden doesn't do that. He's okay, but it doesn't feel like Han Solo.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:39 am Recasting the voices. I'd rather have a flawed, but sincere new take on a character than a perfect, soulless recreation of the voice as-is.
Alden Ehrenreich didn't sound and feel EXACTLY like Harrison Ford's Han Solo but he did his best to do the character justice while also making it his own.
I get your point, though.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
If the AI is good enough, I'd choose that option since existing recastings have been hit (Like Bulma's) to (very) miss. (Satan and the other Gori roles)
Plus, it would probably make TOEI more money in the long run
Plus, it would probably make TOEI more money in the long run
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
No AI voices please. I'll settle for human voices being replaced every generation.
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Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
I'd prefer real voice actors and I think that it would be nice if they could give other voice actors a chance to shine.
Re: Would you prefer replacing the VAs or having AI voices of them?
Human voices, but have them replicate the original VA as close as possible.