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by Skar
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35056
Views: 2735920

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Up until now the Japanese DB Super volumes have been released every 4th. month, but the English editions are released every 3rd. month. It means that the english edition eventually will keep up to the Japanese edition in December 2023 (if DB Super is running this long) according to this overview I ...
by Skar
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This is a different circumstance here. No conclusions are given like before. So you are still out of line with the story. The story is still ongoing so they could possibly be refuted later but I don't see a reason to question them until then. The statements haven't been disputed in any of the arcs ...
by Skar
Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I state what the story states. The statements made aren't fact due to the words used in them like probably and maybe. You claim they are true despite the story claiming they are simply assumptions. You are just posting your feelings. It feels like you have selective reading or intentionally missing...
by Skar
Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You are the one creating random rules for DB. Making up plot points. Since Future Trunks Vegetto, Last arc Broly and TOP Jiren were never stated to be stronger or near Beerus's power. Yet you say so. That's contradicting the story. What random rules? This is basic storytelling that applies to every...
by Skar
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

To be fair, when those claims were made, Beerus didn’t have the opportunity to dispute them and when he was directly told to be weaker than Quitela, he disputed. Well it's a fictional story so the author can give Beerus the opportunity to dispute it. I looked at the Herms Strength Checker and there...
by Skar
Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It takes no thinking on my part since I gave you what the story stated and showed. People reading the story wrongly [like you did] is at fault, not the story. The story isn't at fault because it hasn't given us a reason to question what was said about Vegetto, Jiren, and Broly. The only time the au...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The lines from Shin and Goku are included to demonstrate the mysterious power of Beerus. That's why the statements are in theory , not fact . It's all for the purpose of building up Beerus to the final prophetic Battle he is going to have with Goku. So one does not have to look up Toriyama's interv...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The story answered your question...The statements made concerning Beerus were uncertain, contrary to fact. They were stated as guesses. So they are NOT wrong. The ones who are wrong are those putting those lines as fact. Despite the story updating Beerus placement with more hypothetical's. Since th...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In the Anime, ToP Vegeta is DEFINITELY stronger than SSJ Blue Vegito from the Future Trunks Arc! (Because episode 109 and 110 showed us the greatest powers ever up until that point) and a regular SSJ Blue Goku and Vegeta later, did much better against Jiren than even Goku’s Kaioken x20 did! It migh...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I mean, is it really so hard to believe that a Vegeta from 1 Arc later, is superior to a Vegito from 1 Arc back? I think it's hard to believe. Base Gogeta seemed to be stronger than the individual SSJBs in DBS: Broly so I assume base Vegetto is also stronger in base than his fusees highest forms (e...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?
Replies: 105
Views: 1713

Re: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?

Okay, but why is Jiren so strong? I could understand if Broly reached GoD level, since he's a prodigy from a warrior race with untapped potential, but Jiren? We know nothing about his race, but from what was seen in his short flashback, they were a weak and poor species living in huts. How can a me...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What 6 Pokémon &/ Or 6 Digimon Would You Have Chosen If You Had Been Sent To Dragon Ball Super?
Replies: 2
Views: 62

Re: What 6 Pokémon &/ Or 6 Digimon Would You Have Chosen If You Had Been Sent To Dragon Ball Super?

As a Yamcha fan, I'm a cat person so I would probably go with an all cat team. It might also get on Beerus' good side to see such fine fellowship of felines. Note that I've only played Gen 1, FireRed, and the online game Pokemon Showdown so I could be missing a few good choices. 1. Persian 2. Incine...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?
Replies: 105
Views: 1713

Re: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?

That's true but it's still bad world-building, don't you think? I mean this guy Jiren basically surpasses the most powerful Gods in the entire cosmos... by training really hard. And he comes from a random mortal race with no particular genetic trait or anything like that, his family was comprised o...
by Skar
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:41 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

"Blue Vegetto is just as strong/stronger than Beerus back in FT arc." OK, yet two arcs later, a stronger Blue fusion is needed to defeat someone who is "just as strong/stronger than Beerus." Who was surpassed two arcs ago by Vegetto Blue? Either Beerus is surpassed by a weaker fusion back in Trunks...
by Skar
Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I asked you to give me a quote. So I can show you the difference between assumptive "comparisons" and factual "comparisons." At this point, all these quotes have been discussed in this thread and you've said they're either all false or the character doesn't know how strong Beerus is because you bel...
by Skar
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's not consistent when Gogeta is much more powerful than Vegetto from four arcs ago. Which was needed for Broly. No Way Vegetto compares to Broly. Since a stronger fusion was needed. This demonstrates Toriyama's power escalation point. People don't need to read the interview to see that. Also, pl...
by Skar
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I know the DB fandom is notorious for theorizing but established facts can not be ignored. The god battle was an off-paneled; an anything goes free for all Royale. It does not determine who is stronger in comparison. There were cheap shots, tag teams, surprise attacks, etc. It's not a fair assessme...
by Skar
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’m not seeing how it was established that Beerus has been surpassed, there isn’t a single conclusive statement about it. Only achism from Shin and Goku. Let's say Shin and Goku were wrong and that Beerus was holding back in every instance we've seen him fight another GoD. How much stronger do you ...
by Skar
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904403

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's funny how some have come to the conclusion that all the gods of destruction are near each other in power. Yet the story completely contradicts such fiction. Jiren was only stronger than Belmond in both continuities. Not all the gods, proving all their powers vary. I know you're sticking to Tor...
by Skar
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:07 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can Someone Please Explain To Me Why Would Akira Toriyama & Many Others Had Chosen To Do An Absurd Series of Retcons?
Replies: 9
Views: 270

Re: Can Someone Please Explain To Me Why Would Akira Toriyama & Many Others Had Chosen To Do An Absurd Series of Retcons

Look at George Lucas and Star Wars, or what's-her-name and Harry Potter. Creators are known to revisit their past work and "change things" to fans dismay. Yeah that's what makes it frustrating because you tell they're changes they never considered back then. Usually a retcon during series original ...