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Shouldn't never getting tired or running out of energy give someone a huge advantage? Even the Saiyans get tired and take long breaks, eat, sleep, etc... I mean, technically, couldn't #17 have been training on the island literally 24/7 since Cell was defeated? I suspect sleep would be unnecessary ...

I might agree if the forms didn't feel so rushed. SSJG is barely used before SSB comes along off-screen and already trained to handle. Ultra Instinct is the only form given any real analysis.

Buu's absorption is more parasitic than symbiotic.

If I have to pick one, it would be Makankōsappō. It just has too many drawbacks. It's too long to charge, it's easy to dodge, and it's ineffective against the regenerating villains.

They all had to have their power reset to fight Frieza. Vegeta's power nap had to bump him up a few hundred thousand. Nail and Piccolo's fusion had to give them about a million boost, as did Gohan's rage boost.

Looking at the Ginyu fight, Vegeta would still appear to be weaker than Goku, but if ...

It's pretty much the same as anniversary. 2 new LRs and a mode that pretty much requires them to beat it.

I figured Tien got some level of kaioken harnessed and that's why his tribeam could damage Cell and Buu who outclassed him so much and using it a bunch of times without dying. Also, doesn't Tien have some line in the manga about mixing his own training with what he learns from King Kai?


That ...

Well, what do you call Kale?

Simply put, Frieza never had a reason to worry about a few saiyans he knew to be no match against him. He mentions thinking the only saiyan who might be able to become a SSJ would be Vegeta, but his level was nowhere near enough. Frieza was more concerned about a mass saiyan uprising when he killed ...

I figured Tien got some level of kaioken harnessed and that's why his tribeam could damage Cell and Buu who outclassed him so much and using it a bunch of times without dying. Also, doesn't Tien have some line in the manga about mixing his own training with what he learns from King Kai?

Training had nothing to do with it, he needs his tail pulled out.

Honestly, it was kind of boring even with Cell. The whole strongest character switching every 5 episodes just got annoying. Cell basically became another Frieza who they let transform. The androids themselves were more interesting than Cell.

Not really. Maybe mentally, but I don't see 50lb turtle shells being an issue for them.

So far I've won 4 stages of Gods of Destruction Assemble and felt kind of down about its difficulty until I looked on youtube and saw how the whales struggled with it too.

SSJ3 is still my favorite. That it is limited in every series adds to its uniqueness.

Cursed Lemon wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:50 pm One has to wonder, though, if Vegeta was stronger than Goku then why did he bother transforming.

Vegeta didn't know about the kaioken. For all he knew, Goku could naturally reach that level.

I really had some good luck in the Vegeta banner.

Got the INT LR Blue Vegeta (plus one dupe) and some really needed dupes for several units (My AGL SSBE Vegeta is grateful for his two dupes) but didn't get the STR Gohan and Freeza.

But... in the Goku one, well... it was the other way around.

I ...

Pan was more relevant in GT than Vegeta was.

Why not just bring the dead ones back with the super dragon balls?

Perhaps 17 and 18 needed to be shut down before he could add that to them.