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That isn't a fair argument. We have feats from Gokus fight against a lesser Gomah, and he was no longer strong enough to provide a stimulus for adaptation even when Gomah was at this level. It only changed when the crew bought him a little time to finish charging up his power ready for the ...

The Eye reacts after Giant Gomah takes a kick from SS Vegeta. It's definitely a more impressive feat than what SS4 Mini Goku did against him.


But Goku didn’t even get the chance to land an attack. Not a fair comparison.

That isn't a fair argument. We have feats from Gokus fight against a ...

Edit- I should add, he also has one of those eye, body glowing and then recovery moments against SSJ Vegeta when Vegeta breaks free of his grasp and then kicks him in the gut and through some rock formations. So basically it becomes a real mess once they're adults

I guess this should be ...

So how many power ups did Gomah have?

First power up is technically fusing with the Tertian oculus. Big Gomah - Here he is strong enough to tank full power strikes from SSJ Vegeta. He is around SSJ3 Mini Goku level.
2nd against SSJ3 Mini Goku, Where he basically 1 shots him
3rd against SSJ4 Mini ...

I wouldn’t get too hung up on how Vegeta approached the fight, considering how prideful he is. That trait was the entire focus of the second third of the episode, culminating in Bulma’s intervention. Vegeta choosing to fight in base doesn’t necessarily mean Base Vegeta is stronger than SS4 Kid ...

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Episode 17 Gomah is called the strongest foe so he scales higher than buuhan and he's gotten stronger since turns out the cast even when nerfed are still strong ...

as even after recovering and adapting(?)against SSJ3 Vegeta, he still isn't much stronger than base Vegeta.

It's hilarious how Base Vegeta somehow had a better display than SSJ3 Vegeta in this episode :lol:

It's ridiculous, but SSJ3 Vegeta was still definitely stronger, even his jabs were ...

Gomah’s initial struggles could just be him underestimating Vegeta. If his Third-Eye adapts him to his opponent, it makes sense that he wouldn’t instantly adjust to Vegeta’s power jumps. He probably assumed Vegeta wasn’t that much stronger and miscalculated. But once he recovered from SS3 Vegeta’s ...

The level of power portrayed by Base Vegeta was ridiculous, and it wasn't the usual Toei fluff where the characters cycle through their forms after incredibly brief skirmishes, but instead it was a prolonged battle where he was legitimately Gomahs equal. This is also Vegeta who was still weakened ...

Hey guys, these are some real rough notes I've compiled when trying to calc Gas travel speed. I went through the manga, Super and Z and managed to compile travel distances mentioned via ship. There's some interesting bits here, in particular the distance between Yardrat and Earth, all but perfectly ...

Dragon ball is massive, I seriously can't believe this needs to be said. Dokkan is huge due to being Dragon ball, and it made 30% of Namcos total mobile revenue for the first half of 22, then in second place was Legends which made 15% of Namcos total mobile revenue for the first half of 22.. thats ...

Box Office actual as of Sunday

¥2,213,938,740

No actual for the weekend yet so can't make a good breakdown for Monday but with the holiday yesterday it's probably around ¥2.25 billion.

Tuesday could be like ¥6-7 million.

Also I can't tell because it's in Japanese and the Google translate is a ...

I'm just super interested to see if the anime includes the manga arcs if this rumour is indeed true. Hopefully we finally see the canon/different timeline shit dying down a bit after, but no matter which way it goes some people won't be happy.

I mean, he was sooooo strong, yet while using his full power, he was unable to eliminate Goku BEFORE he got Ultra Instinct back... and he had like two entire episodes to do it (starts going full power at end of ep. 126, Goku gets UI back at the end of ep. 128).

If Jiren is so almighty power ...

Point was that Fusion Zamasu wasn't fodder to Vegito in Toriyama's script since he didn't exist.

And to be frank, since when do we count outlines as a continuity? The fact is, outside of the movies, the rest of the sagas by Toriyama are little more than footnotes for Toyo and Toei to fill. They ...

It'd be SSJBE since that caused Jiren to bleed once he hit him. Showing that he was no longer an indomitable tank. Not like I care since there's now clearly 3 different continuities anyway. Toiryamas where Merged Zamasu is fodder to Vegetto, and weaker than two SSJBs, and Jiren isn't much above ...

Like by this point, Jiren would be a speck if we go by the manga, yet he’s still used as a strength reference by Vegeta.

Jiren isn't used as a simple strength reference from what we've been told, he's been mentioned to be something they should strive for because he wasn't much stronger ...

Like by this point, Jiren would be a speck if we go by the manga, yet he’s still used as a strength reference by Vegeta.

Jiren isn't used as a simple strength reference from what we've been told, he's been mentioned to be something they should strive for because he wasn't much stronger than ...

Likewise, it doesn't matter how strong Jiren looked in the ToP arc, in the end Toriyama stated that he wasn't that much stronger than the Saiyans, and that he mostly relied on his mental focus.

In the end, some in the fandom thought Jiren was so "almighty" simply because of that statement from ...

I bet the new form won't ever be explained like SSRage Trunks

I'm not too sure ya know. Toriyama does occasionally explain things in interviews. Also SSJRage was an anime exclusive form, and with Trunks being in the future it likely won't be seen again. This on the other hand will likely be used ...