Kanzenshuu

Personally, as someone who always disliked the original Super anime, I feel like it's essential that they remake the original if they want to adapt the manga arcs. The original Super was just not suitable enough. I hope I like this new one better (although there are still a number of things about ...

omaro34 wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:43 pm Neva will erase their memories of the events from Daima

Guess not

The others, I'd say are just things that sort of come about in the course of the story to show us that Goku isn't a "means to an end" type of person.


I'm not sure what you mean by this.


Goku won't allow someone else to be hurt just to stop the bad guy. The ends don't justify the means ...

FinalForumPodcast wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:21 pm The others, I'd say are just things that sort of come about in the course of the story to show us that Goku isn't a "means to an end" type of person.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

I feel like a lot of the early Dragon Ball filler is Goku coming across a situation and trying to be a hero:
-Demon Land
-Inoshikacho
-Kinkaku and Ginkaku
-Sky Dragon

He seems less excited to fight strong opponents in those episodes than outraged by injustice being done. Even in stuff that's a ...

I've always read it more as the contemporary movies of the day, rather than necessarily the TV series. We know he'd have some insight into the movies based on character design work at bare minimum, and we also know he watched them at some points along the way. Those seem like a more reasonable ...

This is fandom is seriously beyond redemption now. Do you seriously judge if a piece of media is good or has a point based on it being canon or not alone?

I hate GT because I find it to be a poor product, not because it isn't canon. I can't help but pity you if in order to enjoy something it must ...

and then the notes say he never liked the overly heroic portrayal of Goku in the anime in general.


Interestingly Goku was quite heroic in Daima when he came across those demon realm natives who were getting their life force drained by the soldiers.

To be honest I'm not exactly sure what ...

The "Daima to Super Connection" really refers to two distinct things.
1: the works, as they actually exist on screen and page
2: the things that happen in the works, as they existed in Toriyama's head

As far as individual works go, the two television shows clearly do not take place in the same ...

and then the notes say he never liked the overly heroic portrayal of Goku in the anime in general.


Interestingly Goku was quite heroic in Daima when he came across those demon realm natives who were getting their life force drained by the soldiers.

To be honest I'm not exactly sure what ...

I would love it if they continued the Daima timeline with more ideas loosely inspired by GT. They did say Daima was for GT fans after all.

Daima worked as well as it did because Toriyama was heavily involved with it, more so than he was with Super. I honestly don't know if I can trust them to ...

I would love it if they continued the Daima timeline with more ideas loosely inspired by GT. They did say Daima was for GT fans after all.

Like let's say they introduce a type of dragon ball with one ball in each of the twelve universes. They could make a story about exploring the twelve universes ...

Yeah nothing compares to the original manga in terms of being straight from Toriyama's brain. Everything after that has been collaborative projects that Toriyama has had varying degrees of involvement with.

Akio Iyoku is going to say whatever he has to in order to get people watching. It would be one thing if toriyama himself was commenting on the connection between daima and super but unfortunately that can't happen. And the facts today are that there are at least 3 inconsistencies between daima and ...

What bothered me most about Super was that the stories were mostly...static. Aside from the Zamasu arc (which was only 20 episodes out of 131), the arcs don't involve characters going around to different settings and initiating new plot developments that lead to various twists and turns and such. In ...

So all this time in Super he's been building off of this core idea of these powerful Gods that wasn't actually his idea in the first place. So it makes sense that it's not something he would automatically retain as a core element of his vision when working on an unrelated project.


If I recall ...

Daima shares too many details with Super stuff for me to think Toriyama completely erased it from his mind. Not just the big stuff like the cosmology but even little details such as Bulma's obsession with cosmetics.


But the cosmology doesn't really line up either, as he replaced Zeno with ...

I’m happy to consider Daima as a big “what-if?” Toriyama wrote one more manga arc after Buu, maybe in like '97, after a well-deserved wellness break & glomming some inspiration from watching GT on TV. That’s how it feels to me now.

If the Pilaf arc is considered the prologue to Dragon Ball ...

Daima shares too many details with Super stuff for me to think Toriyama completely erased it from his mind. Not just the big stuff like the cosmology but even little details such as Bulma's obsession with cosmetics.


But the cosmology doesn't really line up either, as he replaced Zeno with Rymus ...

GT had a ton of concepts I love but the execution frustrated me way too much. I enjoy the idea of Goku becoming a kid again for awhile...but it annoyed me that it was permanent. I also enjoyed the Machine Mutants, Baby, and the Shadow Dragons as concepts, but was generally disappointed with how they ...