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by theherodjl
Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Should The Next Arc Put Goten & Trunks Back Into The Spotlight?
Replies: 9
Views: 140

Should The Next Arc Put Goten & Trunks Back Into The Spotlight?

Perhaps having them look slightly older as a result of a sudden growth spurt as well as a possible change in their personalities? Maybe seeing that they've grown, Goten & Trunks might want to train again and return to a more prominent position power-wise?
Yay or nay?
by theherodjl
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?
Replies: 11
Views: 206

Re: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?

It's actually a lot worse than that. The kind of thing you're describing at least has some kind of consistent logic to it (the ability to blow up 10 universes at once is more impressive than the ability to blow up 1 universe at a time, etc.) 'Dimensional Tiering', on the other hand, is some nonsens...
by theherodjl
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ten easy ways how Yamcha could defeat SSB Gogeta...
Replies: 4
Views: 64

Re: Ten easy ways how Yamcha could defeat SSB Gogeta...

Can't forget the fact that Yamcha is the best human shield against Saibamen, something Gogeta could never hope to aspire to. :mrgreen:
by theherodjl
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?
Replies: 11
Views: 206

Re: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?

no because angels are on an entirely different cosmic scale then everyone else. No amount of training is ever going to bridge the gap The Hakaishin were once touted as being on a level of power that is above mortals, that level has been left in the dust as early as the Zamasu arc(with Vegetto Blue)...
by theherodjl
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?
Replies: 11
Views: 206

Re: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?

'Dimensional tiering' is patent nonsense. It sounds like its just another term for "the number of universes/multiverses that a character can bust", another attempt at scaling DB characters to be at "X" tier of power among other fictional characters/franchises. I have never understood the logic behi...
by theherodjl
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?
Replies: 11
Views: 206

Is Post Merus/Yardrat SSJB Gogeta Finally Powerful Enough To Fight Whis/Angels?

I considered SSJB Gogeta from SDBH but now that another couple arcs have played out in the main story, does a fusion of Goku & Vegeta actually have enough power, speed, and skill to contend in a bout of hand-to-hand combat with Whis or other Angels?
by theherodjl
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3225
Views: 227590

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Here's a very dark timeline for our protagonist: What If Goku was found and raised by the Red Ribbon Army? What type of dark path would he take? If he never hit his head, Goku would maintain his aggressive personality and would be subsceptible to the influence & actions of the RRA. He would steadil...
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is the Ultimate state/form the result of a God-like ability/power up?
Replies: 8
Views: 144

Re: Is the Ultimate state/form the result of a God-like ability/power up?

Desassina wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:01 pm
Do you mean suppression? Isn't that to lower one's power? I thought that I was talking about improving it within like SSB complete.
I'm a little confused. Are you talking about mastering ordinary Ki so that it cannot be sensed and is tranquil even at full power?
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If Naruto was a Dragonball character, how far would he go?
Replies: 49
Views: 596

Re: If Naruto was a Dragonball character, how far would he go?

This type of argument has been debunked multiple times. People use this same argument to deny that anyone from Z could even blow up a planet (even Freeza smh), ignoring Ki-control which even Toriyama explained. And Goku was off-guard when he was hit by the laser in RoF, so that arugment doesn't rea...
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If Naruto was a Dragonball character, how far would he go?
Replies: 49
Views: 596

Re: If Naruto was a Dragonball character, how far would he go?

Dragon Ball Super just has that nonsense of universe-destroying-shockwave stuff in the anime and in the manga when Goku and Beerus clash that adds nothing to the fight and say nothing about their individual strength. The actual fight doesn’t even look that impressive and seems a little disappointin...
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is the Ultimate state/form the result of a God-like ability/power up?
Replies: 8
Views: 144

Re: Is the Ultimate state/form the result of a God-like ability/power up?

Doesn't any skilled Ki-user have the ability to mask their Ki so that no one can sense how strong they really are?
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 69
Views: 1714

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Gohan wasn't weaker than Raditz, if he had been that hit wouldn't have had the impact it had. And on the other hand, Nappa was one of the most sturdy characters (in comparison to the strength he had) while being a saiyan, and Vegeta has also comparably high defenses -even if not as much as Nappa-. ...
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 69
Views: 1714

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

It depends on the situation. While it's true that Vegeta lost his power gradually in his battle against the z-warriors, you have Raditz that went from unstopable beast even when he was just playing to not being able to free himself from a very injured Goku that wasn't even holding him by his tail (...
by theherodjl
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 69
Views: 1714

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

The KKx20 multiplier wasn't enough when Freezer was fresh and uninjured. After taking a huge Genkidama that nearly killed him, it would have been different. Krilin was much weaker than Vegeta, but even a weakened Krilin would've been able to kill Vegeta if it hadn't been for Goku asking him to stop...
by theherodjl
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:38 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What Would It Take For Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, and Yamcha to Catch up to Goku and Vegeta in a Satisfying Way?
Replies: 64
Views: 1898

Re: What Would It Take For Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, and Yamcha to Catch up to Goku and Vegeta in a Satisfying Way?

Just make their specialties unique to them and don't give them to Goku and Vegeta. Basically have the saiyans need to rely on them for certain individual skills rather than them being able to cover all bases. Krillin showed elements of being one of the most astute and ki sensing. Have him outshine ...
by theherodjl
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:23 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?
Replies: 14
Views: 384

Re: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?

No because whatever Super Saiyan 4 can be is all thanks to the previous forms already existing. By ignoring everything and saying that Super Saiyan 4 is the new Super Saiyan 2, then all the increase in power it originally provided wouldn't be the same. Super Saiyan 4 is meant to surpass all previou...
by theherodjl
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?
Replies: 14
Views: 384

Re: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?

No. Less is more. Super Saiyan 2 is the right course both in design and power-wise. Having each transformation to be like Super Saiyan 4 would be terrible. What would be the "real Super Saiyan 3" then? That monstrosity "Super Saiyan 5" we see in fanarts? It's just dumb. The simplicity of Super Saiy...
by theherodjl
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?
Replies: 14
Views: 384

Re: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?

Super Saiyan 2 doesn't show us a radical change in the appearance, but that's just Toriyama's approach with SS forms, even now. I mean, technically SS2 and SS Blue are more or less the same thing: a variation of Super Saiyan with some little changes in the hair and in the aura. And that's my point,...
by theherodjl
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?
Replies: 14
Views: 384

Could SSJ4 Be Considered "SSJ2" Design & Power-Wise?

To me, it has always felt like SSJ2 was visually-unimaginative in how it differed from SSJ as well as in power. The hair of a SSJ simply becomes a little spikier/longer and power doubles. That's it. :( Compared to the change from base to SSJ, SSJ2 is barely noticeable in terms of changing the physic...
by theherodjl
Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Next movie teaser... Raditz eating an apple while sitting on Daishinkan's corpse...
Replies: 37
Views: 1026

Re: Next movie teaser... Raditz eating an apple while sitting on Daishinkan's corpse...

Raditz: "Well I guess he's the "Grand Minister of the dead" now! Ha ha!"

The view then changes to a great, new evil's shadow looming over and beckoning Raditz to come along.