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by theherodjl
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?
Replies: 20
Views: 554

Re: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?

I'm going to say that Shadow Dragon saga power levels are the limit of mortal saiyan power. Ultra Full power Saiyan 4 is the max. Future Trunks got as strong as he did because of Beerus and the others and was leveled up to match this. Just because characters are mortal does not mean that they are f...
by theherodjl
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?
Replies: 12
Views: 312

Re: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?

I think the “somehow” is more related to the absorption ability than to South Kaioshin’s strength, since that was the first time they realized Boo can absorb another beings. Kibitoshin was talking in hindsight, knowing full well in present tense that Boo could absorb opponents and that the exact ci...
by theherodjl
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?
Replies: 12
Views: 312

Re: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?

IIRC, Kibitoshin said that "Majin Boo somehow managed to absorb the South Kaioshin" or something to that effect. The implication being that the South Kaioshin was powerful enough to keep Pure Boo at bay and that absorbing him would have taken some cunning on Boo's part and/or the South Kaioshin happ...
by theherodjl
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?
Replies: 40
Views: 1127

Re: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?

What would be funnier? A fly marrying a bumblebee? No, I mean, would Whis winning or losing be funnier? Whis losing of course. I could actually see Whis losing via a classic DB gag scene, he unwittingly stepped in animal poop despite having mastered Ultra Instinct so there does seem to be at least ...
by theherodjl
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?
Replies: 40
Views: 1127

Re: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?

Say Whis was under orders from Daishinkan to test the full might of his universe's best fighters by threatening to destroy it, could all of the strongest, smartest, and most experienced fighters of Earth as well as Broly & Freeza be able to stop Whis? What would be funnier? A fly marrying a bumbleb...
by theherodjl
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?
Replies: 20
Views: 554

Re: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?

If DBS's narrative on training applies, giving gigantic increases to just anyone who happens to train seriously, then sure. After training for several years, Future Trunks went from being weaker than a Cell Jr to being strong enough to challenge Post-U6 Tournament SSJ3 Goku. That's even greater than...
by theherodjl
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Fusion multiplier's inconsistency
Replies: 5
Views: 271

Re: Fusion multiplier's inconsistency

Fusion, like any other major power boost in DB, has no set multiplier. It all depends on how much Ki the user currently has, how much potential that can be drawn out from within, and how well it clicks together with another user's Ki. Note that Kibitoshin was relatively weak for a fusion because the...
by theherodjl
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would It Have Mattered If Anyone Else Knew The Kaio-Ken?
Replies: 11
Views: 694

Re: Would It Have Mattered If Anyone Else Knew The Kaio-Ken?

I always had the thought that due to his biological makeup, Piccolo could be the best person to continue using kaioken. His regeneration abilities could probably diminish the side effects at higher levels. Namekian regen only seems to work regarding the loss of limbs. When it comes to handling a ma...
by theherodjl
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Strong Do You Think These Three Vegitos Are?
Replies: 8
Views: 498

Re: How Strong Do You Think Vegito From Dragon Ball Multiverse Is?

This topic probably belongs in the "fan-created works" thread since DBM is a fan manga and has no bearing on the official in-universe story.
by theherodjl
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Vegeta's Majin Boost Nerfed?
Replies: 9
Views: 376

Was Vegeta's Majin Boost Nerfed?

As in Vegeta could have benefited even more from the Majin boost but was hindered as a result of Vegeta disobeying the will of Babidi and/or consciously refusing to become stronger than Goku since he wanted to prove that he could win on even ground? Or is the alternative explanation, the one where t...
by theherodjl
Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?
Replies: 40
Views: 1127

Re: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?

Has anyone else thought of the concept that Whis might actually be beyond reproach? Since he is a true divine being it is possible that no one will every surpass him because it is literally impossible. I would like to believe that...but this is DB. Even divinity is more than capable of being crushe...
by theherodjl
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?
Replies: 40
Views: 1127

Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?

Say Whis was under orders from Daishinkan to test the full might of his universe's best fighters by threatening to destroy it, could all of the strongest, smartest, and most experienced fighters of Earth as well as Broly & Freeza be able to stop Whis?
by theherodjl
Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could SSJ3 Goku survive Vegeta's Final Explosion?
Replies: 10
Views: 496

Re: Could SSJ3 Goku survive Vegeta's Final Explosion?

Vegeta's explosion is likely only twice(or less) his ordinary strength so if SSJ3 is supposed to be x4 of SS2 then Goku should tank it with little effort, maybe with moderate effort if the visual drama of intense Ki blasts is played up. If Goku got hit by surprise on the other hand(rather implausibl...
by theherodjl
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How would the characters have turned out if the training schools they were in were reversed?
Replies: 3
Views: 224

Re: How would the characters have turned out if the training schools they were in were reversed?

I believe the trio might go along with Tsuru-Sennin's training until Goku eventually realizes that his master has ulterior motives and attempts to convince Krillin & Yamcha that he was bad news, a rift forming between the three with Goku being forced to leave while Krillin & Yamcha remained loyal to...
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why wasn't the central pillar in the ToP destroyed?
Replies: 5
Views: 296

Re: Why wasn't the central pillar in the ToP destroyed?

I'm pretty sure it did get damaged several times, it just was never completely destroyed. It only had scratches on the surface. After watching the conclusion of the ToP fight again, it seems that Ki itself doesn't cause damage to the pillar yet ordinary forceful impacts can cause minor damage to it...
by theherodjl
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why wasn't the central pillar in the ToP destroyed?
Replies: 5
Views: 296

Re: Why wasn't the central pillar in the ToP destroyed?

Probably Daishinkan using reality-altering magic, he could've rewound time to before the pillar got struck and altered the trajectory of any stray blast or simply made the pillar totally indestructible to Ki. The greatest Angel likely still has some surprises up his sleeve that he hasn't revealed to...
by theherodjl
Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realistic way of bringing back Zamasu or Black!
Replies: 12
Views: 481

Re: Realistic way of bringing back Zamasu or Black!

I'd like the idea of Zamasu's immortality being absolute due to receiving it from the Super DBs so that not even Zeno's erasure could completely eliminate him but rather leave him in a crippled state that's trapped in the future timeline's void, that is until some more time travel hijinx allows him ...
by theherodjl
Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How would you have reconcile both Broly (Z Broly & Super Broly) in the same continuity ?
Replies: 8
Views: 417

Re: How would you have reconcile both Broly (Z Broly & Super Broly) in the same continuity ?

I don't believe its even possible to do so as the OG Broly exists in an alternate reality. There'd have to be cross-dimensional shenanigans like with SDBH in order for the original & updated Broly to meet.
by theherodjl
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ki sense being overloaded?
Replies: 5
Views: 362

Re: Ki sense being overloaded?

If the ki sense works like a normal sense (sight, hearing, etc.) there should be a point where the stimulus is so intense that it becomes harmful (blindingly bright lights, deafeningly loud sounds). Would it be possible for someone to have ki so high that merely sensing it (even from an extreme dis...
by theherodjl
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Strong Would Goku Have Become If He Knew Beerus & Whis His Whole Life?
Replies: 1
Views: 167

How Strong Would Goku Have Become If He Knew Beerus & Whis His Whole Life?

Suppose Beerus & Whis had been frequent visitors of Earth for it's food since sometime before Goku as a toddler landed on it and then later on, Kid Goku(prior to meeting Bulma) would meet the duo and receive glimpses of their strength and then take whatever he could learn from it. How much stronger ...