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by theherodjl
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If it had been F Gohan that gone to the past, who would Goku have taken into ROSAT?
Replies: 3
Views: 73

Re: If it had been F Gohan that gone to the past, who would Goku have taken into ROSAT?

If Goku decided on his son from the future for the ROSAT, they'd probably have defeated Cell since Adult Gohan would have understood his role & training far better than his young counterpart and he already had a head start with knowing SSJ. Add in Future Gohan's matured body which would allow greate...
by theherodjl
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Oceanus Shenron is male or female?
Replies: 4
Views: 93

Re: Oceanus Shenron is male or female?

The Dragons are shapeshifters so whatever gender or form they appear as is simply what they've chosen to be. Its possible that the nature of the wishes the Dragons were born from influences their designs but since two Dragons are virtually identical despite being made from different wishes, this mig...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 13
Views: 277

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Old Broly was insane. DBS Broly isn't insane. He's still insane, its just that he's not naturally homicidal or omnicidal like his classic counterpart was. Modern Broly has all the issues of growing up isolated without knowing how to properly form relationships with others, having to do what his dad...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

About Broly, I think what Koyama meant was that Broly, if not stopped by Goku, could have possibly grown as strong as he said. He was definitely not as strong as Koyama claimed him to be, in any movie. That is not fan belief, that was what was written, drawn and shown in the movies. A Cell arc batt...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

In my opinion it is. Remember how Yamcha and others effortlessly beat Ginyu Force in DBZ? Or how Pikkon (SSJ Goku level at best) trashed Cell? It would seem that SSJ Goku is stronger or at least comparable to SSJ2 Gohan. And there are some major power level differences between anime & manga in DBS....
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Copy-Vegeta arc was a filler and it has no place in manga, while Moro arc has (at least currently) no place in anime. If anime returns with Moro arc it might be different as well. I wouldn't consider all things from anime as facts when talking about manga, especially fillers. Also this is Super so ...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

His claims are contradicted by feats of the characters and the sense of progression that is a feature in Dragon Ball (where the next villains are always stronger than the previous ones (with the exception being the Janemba-Hirudegarn case). So I really don't see the point in taking his claim and cr...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Even with Takao Koyama's "fanboyism", both Hirudegarn and Janemba are stronger than Broly, with the latter being the strongest of all movie villains (until being stupidly surpassed by Golden Freeza). Which begs me to question why you didn't mention both or either of them instead of Broly? Because T...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 349

Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

We know that Base Goku/Vegeta as of Planet Potaufeu are stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks which would put them at DBZ Ultimate Gohan-level(bare minimum) during that point...but have they since surpassed not only vast majority of the OG cast but of M12 Gogeta, Super Vegetto, and Classic Broly(if Takao Koyam...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Saiyan Marriages
Replies: 2
Views: 81

Re: Saiyan Marriages

Saiyans probably never practiced the act of marriage within their society, it would have served little purpose with hazardous battles always on the horizon and how the only degree of intimacy among Saiyans was to mate, sometimes for life as with Bardock & Gine. However, as shown with species on worl...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Looking into origins of Pride Gene and Honour Gene
Replies: 8
Views: 182

Re: Looking into origins of Pride Gene and Honour Gene

I see well I was hoping that there was more to this like how someone could have confused this as fact. As it's not the first time people have made claims Toriyama said x y or z but he never actually did or there is counter-evidence to it. Such as the reoccurring myth Toriyama brought Goku back afte...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:10 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Looking into origins of Pride Gene and Honour Gene
Replies: 8
Views: 182

Re: Looking into origins of Pride Gene and Honour Gene

As far as I know, the only thing about genes regarding Goku & Vegeta is that Goku was born a "low-class" while Vegeta was born a "super-elite". At no point has Goku, Vegeta, or any other Saiyan been lumped into a "pride" or "honor" classification in either the guides or by Toriyama/Toei. Sounds like...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

An arm wrestling match is totally different from a real fight. So far, neither Goku nor Beerus have mastered Ultra Instinct, but it’s logical to assume Beerus is closer to that point than Goku is. So, considering everything that Goku managed in that state, it’s possible that Beerus can defeat Vermo...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

No. I mean, let’s say for argument sake. Beerus=70% Jiren or eps127 Jiren. While Vegeta was still in the battle. He couldn’t do anything to Jiren. Even at 50-60% Jiren or episodes 123-126 Jiren. Jiren wasn’t really trying with him. Or even threatened. And that was with Goku’s help. I don’t think he...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Trust me. I love Jiren. As of now, I think Jiren with access to his LP power up. Is probably low angel tier by now. I think personally at that time, in eps109. Beerus was shook because he knew none of his guys were up to snuff against Jiren. He was cautiously optimistic before that point. He obviou...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:22 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Beerus freaked out when Goku unleashed Kaio-ken x10 during the Universe 6 bout, but we all know how that turned out. I take his expression during the Tournament of Power as worry for his universe's chances of survival. It would have been one thing if the entire Universe 11 team collectively had God...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

No, as I see it. I think he was worried about his team. Listen, we don’t know how strong Jiren was. Some stuff say he was above all gods. Some other stuff claim, he’s only stronger than belmond. Personally in that situation, I think Beerus was freaking out, because he knew his team at the time had ...
by theherodjl
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

We have no idea how strong Vegeta is right now. In the anime, he managed to defeat a God of Destruction level fighter, but couldn’t defeat Jiren, who is also at that level. Maybe even Jiren can’t defeat Beerus. How I see it as. I place these GoDs and angels in this category. GoD 10 8 6 4 2 0 0 mean...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Do you think we'll eventually get a new type of fusion introduced
Replies: 11
Views: 348

Re: Do you think we'll eventually get a new type of fusion introduced

I'd like to see an improvement to fusion in which merging bodies is no longer necessary, all that would need to happen is two characters perform a dance or use an item with one another that temporarily shares their power & abilities(and magnifies them) between each other. Imagine seeing Goten & Trun...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1068

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

The issue rests on whether or not Jiren could beat Beerus. Vegeta wouldn't beat Jiren. Well, when Jiren unleashed a powerful wind current from his body, Beerus seemed to be crapping his pants a little at the idea that one person could have that much power and this is coming from a guy who knows a c...