Kanzenshuu

Last time I get upset about spoilers. They weren't wrong literally but we're contextually misleading.

Also never tell me Jiren is a "good guy" again. He lashed out and tried to destroy innocents because their friendship made him angry? Sounds like a pretty bad thing to do.

At the end of the day ...

Let's just hope we get Kevin Conroy as Jiren.

The thing about Jiren is that he doesn't have a transformation or a "power up" that is easy to gauge his power. Jiren basically can suppress himself or make himself stronger depending on who he is fighting. Next week will show Jiren being more serious and will have the advantage over UI Goku until ...

As it stands assuming everyone is fresh and at full strength

Vegetto Blue > Beerus > Merged Zamasu/ Jiren /UI Goku > SSJBKKx20 Goku/Time Skip Killing Techniques Hitto > SSJB Goku /SSJB Vegeta/True Golden Frieza > True SSJ Kefla > Toppo > SSJG Goku > Base Kefla > SSJ Berserker Kale > Android 17 ...

As it stands assuming everyone is fresh and at full strength

Vegetto Blue > Beerus > Merged Zamasu/Jiren/UI Goku > SSJBKKx20 Goku/Time Skip Killing Techniques Hitto > SSJB Goku/SSJB Vegeta/True Golden Frieza > True SSJ Kefla > Toppo > SSJG Goku > Base Kefla > SSJ Berserker Kale > Android 17 ...

My headcanon power scaling atm right now

SSJ2 Goku = SSJ1 Kale > SSj2 Caulifla
SSJ3 Goku > SSJ1 Kale > SSJ2 Caulifla
SSJBerkser Kale > SSJ3 Goku >SSJ2 Caulifla
SSG Goku > SSJBerkser > SSJ2 Caulifla
Base Kafla > or = to SSG Goku
SSBKK Goku > or = SSJBK (Super Saiyan with Berserker Ki) Kafla ...

Well, I'll update my Ranking after all these episodes

1- Zen'oh/Future Zen'oh
2- Daishinkan
3- Whis/Vados
4- Vegetto/Ultra Instinct Goku/Jiren
5- Beerus/Champa
6- Merged Zamasu
7 - Goku SSB KK x20
8- Vegeta SSB/ Golden Freeza/ Hit /Toppo
9- Goku Black SSJ Rosé
10- Trunks SSJ Rage
11-Dyspo
12 ...

Freeza9000 wrote:

perucho1990 wrote:If Daishinkan truly attached to Zeno then its a way to give him a weakness without nerfing him to set up tension(in case lets say Freeza kills the Zenos which would make Daishinkan obsolete).

How would Freeza kill the Zenos though?

Make them erase each other by spreading lies.

There's no need to complicate this. Zen'ou alone came up with the tournament, that's all there is to it.


Zunou said they can grant every wish, and he knows everything.

I'm not taking Zunou as proof of a plot point that hadnt been conceived at the time.

Youre implying the Super Dragon Balls ...

I just remembered in the universe 6 tournament when Hitto and Goku we're duking it out. Champa and Beerus basically said that mortals were their play things and that they were insignificant. Now looking back on it, it looks like it was for shadowing for what's to come after this tournament. I think ...

I mean lets be real, who here actually thought Kale was stronger than Jiren? Kale is probably gonna wreck everyone and Jiren who is leagues above her (someone who doesn't know how to control her own power) is obviously going to make quick work of her to show everyone in the tournament that he is a ...

I kind of like the name "Limit Break/Breaker Goku" for the form.

Frieza betraying U7 only to join up with Frost and having U7 need to find a final member with no time to search, only to have Yamcha or Buu or someone to show up.
It'd be fun.
Yamcha would have been a weak choice, with all due respect for the character.
Buu needs two months of sleep.
And there ...

I'm genuinely hoping they won't try to squeeze in a mention of Broly from anyone from Universe 7. I feel it would be detrimental to the series as a whole to actually acknowledge his existence.

And while I don't exactly like the idea of a Broly clone, I do appreciate the introduction of more ...

I really think everyone is just slightly stronger than when they were in the Buu Arc. I would say everyone is stronger but it's marginal at best. I think this applies to the levels that are non God Transformations like SSJ,SSJ2,and SSJ3. I think it was already stated that Goku and Vegeta had already ...

Isn't possible that each universe does have 5 Kaioshin's, but only the Grand Supreme Kai is the one that attends with God of Destruction because he has the highest title? So, since Universe 7 only has one Kai remaining he was automatically promoted to Grand Supreme Kai. In the Universe 6 tournament ...

Regarding timelines, whatever is stated in Daizenshuu, I sincerely doubt they would rely on a plot point only mentioned there to sort out all those issues. In any case, what Beerus said is that killing Zamasu should kill him in every timeline, so either he is talking rubbish or something else is at ...

Regarding timelines, whatever is stated in Daizenshuu, I sincerely doubt they would rely on a plot point only mentioned there to sort out all those issues. In any case, what Beerus said is that killing Zamasu should kill him in every timeline, so either he is talking rubbish or something else is at ...

Anyone here hoping it's Goten that was taken by Zamasu to be raised as a "GOD" and since Zamasu can't directly kill anyone because he's a Kaioshin he has a mortal do his bidding by purging all the unworthy mortals for him?

This chapter practically confirms that Black is the God of Destruction for Universe 7 in Trunk's time line because Zamasu get's promoted to full time Kaioshin or kills Goasu and takes his place then either kills or seals the other remaining supreme kai's. Zamasu basically splits the evilness from ...