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by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:54 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

He was already at above 23.000 against Ginyu-Goku, later Vegeta continues saying he's getting stronger(even if he put more weight into Gohan) and worth is something in a trifecta versus 530.000 Freeza. Kuririn continues to perform against stronger forms of Freeza and lastly him and Gohan are able t...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I only use numbers from the manga. That Kuririn number is specially doubtful. It grabs Vegeta's line of them:(Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn) having a chance against First Form Freeza and based on the 530.000 of the later it does a simply sum. Add the numbers of the three warriors and it's 525.000... Ho...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:12 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I wouldn't put the humans dozes of times below the Base Saiyans. My main argument is that they always caught up to Goku. He was ahead, humans do the same training and catch up to him. Although Namek had crazy spikes due too zenkais, I think the gap isn't huge. I remember having humans in the millio...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Were Goku and Freeza fighting at their peak on Namek?
Replies: 13
Views: 298

Re: Were Goku and Freeza fighting at their peak on Namek?

Worth pointing out Freeza is never stated to have been weakened by the Genki-Dama, so I think the question is mostly directed at Goku here. If DBS isn't involved, probably on Freeza, no on Goku. For Freeza, someone who was born as powerful as he was, he says he never trained, but what we learned wit...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:53 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Unfortunately I can't find my old power level list, I can still share the thought process. For the Androids, I use the logic you mentioned in the previous post. Yamcha was a good source of energy, they even thought he was Goku. So get your Yamcha number(or around that), multiply it by 4 - since the...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Were Goku and Freeza fighting at their peak on Namek?
Replies: 13
Views: 298

Were Goku and Freeza fighting at their peak on Namek?

Both Goku and Freeza sustained injuries that ought to have weakened them in their fight. Goku took a hell of a beating and wasted energy on the Kaio-Ken and the Genki-Dama while Freeza got hit by the Genki-Dama and barely survived. Piccolo or Gohan even noted Goku’s Ki diminished a lot. Surely this ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:58 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Haven't dwelled in power levels in a long time, might be going by memory for a bunch. -Glad someone agrees Trunks is holding back in his first appearance. Funny because I picked this one from you actually. People put a lot of emphasis on the rumours line, but unless Gohan and Bulma believed Yardrat...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

A bit of an experimental list on my part since I've been going with a very minimalist approach for years, though it's mostly a very standard Cell Saga list. I also try my hand at some MSSJ/FPSSJ/Grade 4 SSJ > SSJ Grade 3 in terms of power boosts. SSJ Goku (Namek): 150 Cyborg Freza: 151.2 King Cold: ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33692
Views: 2097005

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

When did #17 seemingly handle Moro on his own? Did I miss a chapter? The only time he fought with Moro, he couldn't do anything to him besides leaving a scratch on his body and impressing him with that. #18 did the exact same thing. Whoops, I meant 7-3 with Moro's power, presumably the power he had...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:02 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Power Levels on this movie were the worse we ever got in this franchise, I mean if this movie was set into Cell to Boo arc timeline, I could buy a random prodigy nobody to go toe-on-toe with SSJ and SSJ2, but to freaking God transformations? Not only that but to be necessary a fusion to transform i...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33692
Views: 2097005

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, in Chapter 62 Piccolo said fusion is no longer an option against Moro now that he has copied Vegeta's Spirit Fission. Since Spirit Fission requires dealing damage (Or at the very least making contact) with the opponent, does this mean Moro is at the very least on the same tier as SSJB fusions, p...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33692
Views: 2097005

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, what's the power chain between PSSJB Goku/Vegeta, Gohan and #17 before the 2 months of training? The ToP was already pretty confusing about it: Vados says Kefla "might be unmatched in the battlefield" when the girls fuse, but when Gohan fights Kefla Kuririn says that he might surpass Goku if he ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33692
Views: 2097005

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

BagetaSama wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:57 pm
I mean, wasn't suppressed Moro arc UI Omen Goku implied to be on ToP UI's level?
If he was, I missed that part. When was that said?
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33692
Views: 2097005

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Sorry for being late for the show but I returned to the forum after a long while to get some opinions. So if you got a post where this has been asked for before please lead me to it! Angelic Moro. The one confident in taking on MUI Goku. And just cause I love scales: MUI Goku (current) is a 100. Th...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35607
Views: 1924435

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I believe SSB Goku and Vegeta didn't surpass SSR Black until the Broly movie. Goku had Halo Zamasu beaten pretty badly and crying for more power in the very Goku Black Saga and somehow fought evenly with SSJ1 Kefla in the ToP. Broly movie seems a bit late, specially when it’s the one “saga” with no...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Power Tiers
Replies: 30
Views: 1850

Re: Dragon Ball Power Tiers

Is Whis, Beerus and SSJG being on tiers 15, 10 and 6 respectively a reference to the 6/10/15 scale? If so, that's a clever one. Shouldn't SSJ Goku be stronger than that? His image training on the very first chapter suggests he could take Cell and maybe Pure Boo as a SSJ1. Kale also is definitely too...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Powar Levuls with Kaboom: The "Super-Strong Base Fusions" Experimental List https://i.imgflip.com/3d5izx.png When it comes to "fusion multipliers", I think like Vertical. There are so many variables that one can work themselves crazy trying to make everything fit into a given formula. Specially for...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35607
Views: 1924435

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

So how strong do you think the merged Namek from the moro arc is, Piccolo, altho he's not on his own does better against a stronger Moro I feel, so he's lower then him but we have no other feats or frame of reference. Lets say he runs a z-super gauntlet, how far does he get. I could see him beating...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11591
Views: 936936

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

snip Well surely a comprehensive list requires a comprehensive review, doesn't it? PART I Shouldn't Tao be a bit higher than that? He had a quite even fight with Goku most of the time, even if Goku wasn't trying that much. 63 vs 40 just seems a bit too much. And if you'll rise Tao I think you might...