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by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

You do realize we are talking about someone who survived an exploding planet while being cut in half and having next to nothing in energy right? Guy is durable as fuck. Base Caulifa is also not as strong as base Goku on the manga. Super Saiyan Goku gave him his energy, which is implied to have heal...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?
Replies: 344
Views: 25528

Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

That Future Gohan accepted his death because Future Trunks traveled in time after killing the Androids to tell him he’d manage things out.

Also, that merely pulling the Z Sword made Gohan surpass his SSJ(2) self since he reverted to base right after pulling it.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Theories on Future Goku?
Replies: 6
Views: 380

Re: Theories on Future Goku?

Goku might not have liked to sit and see his friends die, but it’s what he was forced to do. Even if he kept his body (What should’ve happened since he also kept it -after the Cell Games) he’s still dead and is not allowed to interfere with the Living World. Vegeta might have been allowed to come ba...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:56 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Vegeta's Majin Boost Nerfed?
Replies: 9
Views: 377

Re: Was Vegeta's Majin Boost Nerfed?

Being born in a higher class than Goku, Vegeta is supposed to be the more gifted of the two. This is corroborated by how Vegeta has the upperhand in the Android Arc when they’ve both undergone similiar training regiments. The case with Goku is that he’s never satisfied with his power, and constantly...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Ultra Instinct Raditz vs Post-King Kai Training Goku Chiaotzu (Cell saga) vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan saga) Semi-Perfect Cell vs Krillshinhan (Fusion of Krillin and Tenshinhan) Mr. Satan vs John Cena GT Pan vs base Goten (Buu saga) Namek Saga Frieza (after training for 10 days) vs SSJ Goku (Namek saga...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

What are your guys' estimations for the base Saiyajins in the Super, Toyotaro's manga? Current base Saiyajins. I think this is one topic that a lot of people don't see eye to eye on. I don’t see why the lower forms would be any stronger than they were Pre God, honestly. Goku never absorbed SSJG in ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Vegeta's Majin Boost Nerfed?
Replies: 9
Views: 377

Re: Was Vegeta's Majin Boost Nerfed?

I believe it was, but not for the reasons you mentioned. We know Vegeta has more potential than even Goku by virtue of being an Elite Saiyan (In contrast to Goku, a Low Class), and this is further shown in Battle of Gods when Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta surpasses even Super Saiyan 3 Goku in a burst of rag...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Dragon Ball Gus wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:02 pm
SSJ Full Power Goku (Cell Games) vs A Hypothetical SSJ Full Power Vegeta (Cell Games)
Vegeta is expressed as having the bigger potential of the two, so he'd probably beat Goku if they both have their SSJ powers drawn to their limits.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Question Are we absolutely sure that SSJ Gotenks was above SSJ3 Goku? Not equals, or roughly on the same level, but stronger. Because, when I use my formula on fusion ( HEADCANNON ALERT ) Gotenks in SSJ is slihtly less powerful than Goku. Now, now I don't ask for you to tell me "your headcannon is ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Okay you're just making comments you're not actually making an argument. Why is SSJ Gotenks<SSJ2 Vegeta? I don't need to make an argument. It's official information. In order to defeat Majin Buu, who boasted absolute strength, Goku taught Fusion to Goten and Trunks as a last resort, and thus Gotenk...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Since a lot of people are posting their lists these days, I thought I could make one of my own and give it a spin as well. I'll be adding some notes in italic explaining my logic as well when I find necessary. Kuririn : 30,000 Gohan : 45,000 ~ Enraged: 900,000 ~ Zenkai: 1,080,000 ~ Saving Piccolo: 1...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 12316

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

That was the point, Vegeta thought it will work for better but you really think he will get even weaker than Good Boo? Goku wanting to obliterate Boo has got nothing to do with him being stronger but similar to how Piccolo wanted to gather enough ki to kill Raditz and asking someone else to distrac...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 14834

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

It may be like Cell's statement on the Z Fighters vs Cell Jrs, with the term Vegeta uses in the original dialogue being translatable as either "And" or "Or". You'd have to check this out in the Japanese Anime or with a translation to be sure, though.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 12316

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

If you pay attention, it's not really supported by the story by any means. Pretty much every statement about Pure Boo compared to his fellow versions implies he's far outmatched by Super Boo and his variations. Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P7.3 Context: Vegeta grabs good Boo’s pod and wonders what will h...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread
Replies: 2107
Views: 218430

Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

What’s being said in this entry from Daizenshuu 5?

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by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah, it's certainly possible. Perhaps even most probable, considering the new official upper ceiling that exists on base Goku's power now and the more moderate Androids/Cell-arc power growth that goes along with it. I've never thought that 19 and 20's initial powers were all that high, being well ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Hey is it possible Android #19 is weaker than we thought? Vegeta's kick hurts him pretty bad and even leaves a mark. I don't think a off guard attack on far stronger guys has ever done that before. Even #20 manages to tank a punch from Goku without any damage. 11) toriyama said it in an interview, s...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegetto SS3 BoG < SSJGod < Base Gogeta?
Replies: 148
Views: 4542

Re: Vegetto SS3 BoG < SSJGod < Base Gogeta?

dragon boss z wrote:The only explanation is fusion is based off of the users full power, not their base form.
This, basically. Merely attaining Super Saiyan God would improve the power of the fusion. I thought this was common sense even…
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

there Is an official multiplier for grade 3, right from el manga legendario. It says that ssj g3 has a physical strength 10 times stronger than the previous stage It should be said the original Japanese version doesn’t have that information. Only the Spanish version added it. So, if people want to ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

On top of what Kaboom said, Vegeta joined the Budokai with the specific purpose of fighting Gohan (And later Goku) and even admited all he wanted was to settle things with Goku. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2d/b4/c1/2db4c103e35c24fd9d1bcd33a8765599.jpg So yeah, him saying he's superior to the others is...