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And the problem is... ?

I think Vegeta's current strength isn't equivalent to UI Sign Goku's, as he ultimately did more poorly against Moro at full strength than Goku did. Though I DO think this technique could allow Vegeta to beat opponents Goku may have trouble with, such as Jiren, or even Fused Zamasu (who, though weak...

It was very clear. Vegeta did get stronger, but he never went to Moro and Goku's weight level, but instead took Moro down to his level and below. Goku was dealing damage to Moro. Vegeta initially was dealing none, until Moro began to lose power. What Jaco said does not matter in the slightest in lig...

To be fair, Golden Freeza did contain a sphere of destruction, and he doesn't have god ki. So it's clearly not necessary, at all, to possess god ki to challenge that power. Maybe it helps, but it's not necessary.

It's as Miracles said. The moment Jiren got "serious", as in, by context, showed the same output he used agains UI Omen Goku, he was wiping the floor with both Goku and Vegeta at the same time. And this was before Vegeta tried the super charged Final Flash. Both SSBKK and SSBE were consistently port...

Not sure if outright tank, but perfectly capable to deflect it or block it, imo.

Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Goku (jeez that's a mouthfull) from the Baby saga? Believe it or not, he shouldn't be much weaker than his Shadow Dragon arc self, since Goku didn't really train or fought really strong opponents between those arcs (except Super 17, but only him, and he never trained to in...

more fights 1) FT arc SSB Goku (1st appearence, the one that fought next to SS Trunks) vs U6 arc SSBKK Goku (regular kaioken) (if FT arc Goku wins, U6 arc version goes KKx10, and SS Trunks aids his contemporary ally) SSBKK Goku wins. Goku never got particularly stronger in the FT arc and not much ti...

The way I see it, so far, Giblet seems to hold the "modern" saiyans as tainted individuals. Perhaps because of their brutality, lack of empathy, etc, and the Super Saiyan does feel like the apex of saiyan brutality, since it's fueled by rage. If they're aware of the Super Saiyan God, then I think it...

Well, Giblet apparently sees the yellow-aura Super Saiyan as a sort of "mark of shame" related to the impure "bloods" he constantly talks about, isn't that right? It makes sense that he wants nothing to do with it. As to how he's so strong, well, maybe the Mastermind and the Dark-ki does have much t...

You're mistakenly believing that Bra is trying to make her crazy counterpart see reason. As two people put it quite brilliantly in the page comment section: "You're missing the emotional context in favor of only seeing the information being conveyed. The Gohans were trying to talk up her good side, ...

Episode 47 was definitely a scary episode. It's not just the general atmosphere of a destroyed future, it's also the fact that the main villain was shadowed for most of the episode. https://pm1.narvii.com/6127/289f156807f878a985c0c7713236ae9b70200786_hq.jpg I actually used to be freaked out by Goku...

Android 21 (Transformed, peak I think with Cell absorbed) vs Blue Vegeta (Post-ToP ofc) Android 21 (Same as before) vs Base/Aura of a God Toppo Android 21 (always at peak) vs Hearts (Base) Android 21 (Transformed, can use peak power if needed) vs SS2 Caulifla and controlled SS Kale Android 21 (Tran...

I do believe they got stronger, but like, not to the point of "Goku's normal SSB is stronger than his initial SSBKKx20" or anywhere close to that. It's too much of a bloat. The manga, however, is another beast entirely. Goku's SSB got much stronger than it's previous showing, according to Piccolo. P...

Any time now, honestly. Now that Goku has learned to use Omen at will, he's more or less on Beerus' level already. As in, he can actually push Beerus to finally be serious in order to win. And not just one-shot him like he did to Vegeta, but actually having to fight Goku seriously in order to not lo...

I would just add that the Blue Evolution Vegeta that defeated GoD Toppo is not his usual realm of power. Afterwards, he was again stuck to perform more or less the same as SSBKKx20 Goku against Jiren. So, to me, that "power up" from pride was a temporary deal. That's the only problem with the boost...

I would just add that the Blue Evolution Vegeta that defeated GoD Toppo is not his usual realm of power. Afterwards, he was again stuck to perform more or less the same as SSBKKx20 Goku against Jiren. So, to me, that "power up" from pride was a temporary deal. If I were to scale, it would be somethi...

Yeah, that's fair. I don't particularly mind that, but it's taking waaay too long for my tastes, to the point it does seem some kind of fetish.

I don't think he could necessarily tank the U7 Spirit Bomb either, it could either beat him or severely damage him (it did that with Freeza, who was much stronger than Goku at that point). The same can be said about the other attacks. He's on that level imo, which means other attacks at the same lev...

I feel like SS Broly should simply be stronger than any standard God tier forms (blue, True golden, SS kefla). FP SS is above anyone yes, but not sure that SS is. Especially given his performance. SS Broly's performance was dominate. The plot alone simply has him owning Goku and Vegeta. That means ...