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So, I've been wondering about Base Black in the manga We've seen him stomp SS2 Trunks who was too much for SS2 Goku and most likely a match for SS3 Goku. According to Trunks, that gigantic power of his was no match for Black, so Base Black should be stronger than SS3 Goku, or at least even. But the...

Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black didn't give Vegeta much trouble by the end so would Gohan and Kefla be stronger than him? Yes and by a big margin. Manga Black is patetically weak considering only Merged Zamasu was a match for Perfected Blue Goku. Either Kefla or Gohan would one shot him. Well, not exa...

I can’t see what contrived method they could use to bring him back. Unless they brought in a different Zamasu from a different timeline, which wouldn’t be the Zamasu we all know and thus would make no sense to have him. To be fair, the Super Dragon Balls showed that they have enough power to bring ...

In the movie SSJG Goku is around 70% of Beerus's strength. I don't think so. I am pretty sure the 70% comment is referring to SSG base SSJ fighting Beerus. That's when Goku goes all out. Plus when you do the math if SSG Goku is 70% then 50 times that would probably be greater than Beerus No, no. Go...

17 was gonna kill SS3 Goku. As far as I remember, Goku does say 17 is almost as strong as them. I would still put 17 as the weakest of the high tier SSB people in both mediums. If we are talking about the entire tier then Saonel or Pirina should be the weakest in the anime. Yeah, I was going by Gok...

So where does Vegeta rank now in terms of power now with his awakened 'spirit control'? above goku, same level, or below? Considering Goku's training with Merus was merely to practice Ultra Instinct, and he didn't had that much time to train to begin with, I would argue that Vegeta should be superi...

As lollijpop said, they're meant to be counterparts. Their transformations, therefore, are very similar in appearence and mechanics, turning them into raging killing machines. The biggest difference, I'd say, is that Broly has his "Wrathful" state stacked on his transformations, which makes him even...

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So, if Yamcha is the third strongest earthling, that means...

Probably that he is weaker than Krillin and Tien and stronger than Roshi.

Or even better, he's weaker than Krillind and Roshi, but steonger than Tien! You know, since Toriyama and modern DB loves to shit on Tien so much.

Okay guys! How strong do you think Moro has gotten over these last 2 months of sucking up planets? Do you think he has finally surpassed the likes of Jiren and Full Power Broly? It makes sense, considering the fact that the next enemy is usually always stronger than the previous enemy (with the exc...

That's...... A very good point. You make a good point. Honestly I prefer it this way, but yeesh, it would feel like plot convenience anyway. Thanks. Another good point, Beerus’ planet is damn far away. And in the Resurrection F Arc, Goku could teleport to earth from Beerus’ homeworld thanks to a we...

That's...... A very good point. You make a good point. Honestly I prefer it this way, but yeesh, it would feel like plot convenience anyway.

He'll probably never learn that lesson, but now that he has come to respect Goku and Vegeta, he will bid his time until he's sure he can take on them. And who knows, Freeza now certainly looks like someone who can pull an "enemy mine" with them, when the need arises.

Because Freeza inspires loyalty through fear, not through respect or love. After he first died at the beginning of the Androids arc, his empire quickly fell apart. It's only natural that a lot of his soldiers are actually pretty normal people. Just look at Cheelai or Lemo, they didn't serve in the ...

To be honest, I don't have the humans measuring that much weaker than the base Saiyans early on in the arc, let alone Piccolo who was certifiably closer to the Super Saiyans than said base. How in the world do they rationalise Piccolo's performance against Gero or #17 then? We know Piccolo was wors...

The androids were surprised when Goku went SS, so I guess they just collected Freeza's data and took off neverminding base Trunks? Although how did Gero know that Freeza was coming and where to send the bee or whatever it was? It is possible his sensors detected Freeza's huge ki, since every single...

Okay guys! How strong do you think Moro has gotten over these last 2 months of sucking up planets? Do you think he has finally surpassed the likes of Jiren and Full Power Broly? It makes sense, considering the fact that the next enemy is usually always stronger than the previous enemy (with the exc...

But you know, shouldn't they require to have data on the Super Saiyan? After all, the only moment Freeza were on Earth to have his cells collected was when he was killed by Trunks. Or where they collected after the fact? Does someone know? The androids were surprised when Goku went SS, so I guess t...

Goku and Vegeta at 4mil is very respectable, imo. It would give them 200mil as SSj, quite a step up. If anything, I would argue that Vegeta should be stronger than Goku, since it was implied. Tien and Piccolo is where it's really weird. Piccolo should indeed be stronger than Goku and Vegeta in base,...

But you know, shouldn't they require to have data on the Super Saiyan? After all, the only moment Freeza were on Earth to have his cells collected was when he was killed by Trunks. Or where they collected after the fact? Does someone know?

To me, it always seemed obvious. Goku, Vegeta, Freeza, and Toppo are all around the same SSB/Golden Freeza level, while Ultimate Gohan and 17 are around the same "below Blue" level. How they compare to SSG is a more interesting question in my book. Pretty much the impression I always had. I'd assum...