Kanzenshuu

Like HeroR said. It was a weird, black ki, but not godly yet.

Black's SSj was basically evolving into Rosé at that point, so it wasn't JUST a zenkai. Considering his power didn't skyrocket to the point where he could kill Blue Goku and Vegeta with a finger, the jump from that SSj state to Rosé wasn't that great at all. Black's SSj surpassed the God threshold a...

Or Toyo just thought it would look cool. Even Tori pulled shit like that for those reasons. Maybe it has meaning, but I wouldn't read too much into it just yet.

(For Future References) in the event that Beerus & Goku have a rematch and Goku Defeats Beerus (Kills Him) who in universe 7 who is as strong as Goku & Vegeta would be a good fit as their next God Of Destruction ? Freeza or Broly ? Freeza can breathe in the vacuum of space he's manage to decrease S...

All 3 of them are pretty much equal in their respective forms anyways. Base/SS Goku and Vegeta are even with Final Form Freeza, and SSB is equal to True Golden Freeza. I agree. Toppo was mostly provoking Vegeta since he was the one who called him second fiddle first. I mean, he can be weaker, I gue...

I wasn't, not really. It makes sense for them to survive. Unlike the anime, the Jrs didn't explode when Gohan "killed" them, so they should be able to eventually regenerate.

Honestly, I would think SSG is on the same realm as, say, Omega Shenron. Much stronger than a regular SSj4, but not capable of fighting a fusion of one. That said, if I were to remake the series with SSj4 in mind, I would currently make it on par with SSG, with it's "full power" state (when Goku too...

Super Saiyan God being less than 10x mightier than SSj3 sounds iffy, though. That would make it weaker than the initial state of SSj4!

But unless they were harshly retconned, the makaioshin wouldn't matter all that much. They're originally supposed to be weaker than the Kaioshin, and them being stronger than a hakaishin would make little sense.

To be fair, Goku has always been very carefree when not serious. Plus he's a lot older than DB Goku, but still younger than GT Goku by a goooood margin. Meaning, he's at a point in time where he's enjoying life more. Both in DB and GT there were always a crisis so he never could really afford to goo...

I saw a little animation from Hyourinjutsu (or something like that) where Goku and Vegeta were forced to fuse to face Jiren in the ToP. That Gogeta forced Jiren to go topless, and he was only defeated after Gogeta went SSBE and KKx20, and even then they barely won - they had the clear advantage in p...

I think it wouldn’t matter, he was definitely much better of as Merged Zamasu. In theory, as a fusion, he should still have the power to replicate that rift in reality, so it’s mostly the writers fault for not exploring it further. Wasted a perfectly good plot, as they say hahaha I always wondered ...

I wish to start by saying that there might be a misunderstanding here. Over the course of the list, there are some entries with repeated numbers. Case in point: 37 a. SSj2 Kefla: 37 b. GoD Toppo: I've put it like that to emphasize that they share the same place in the list, hence, the same amount of...

Which is what I pretty much assume. But he never shouts a number, neither does the spectators give one, so it's left technically unclear. Which is why I believe that Goku used the 20x KK against Kefla, otherwise her beating him and THEN being compared to the GD would mean he became 10x stronger afte...

I'll address the other points later, but for now I just want to say this: the last time Goku gave a multiplier to KK in the Super anime was when facing Jiren with the Genki Dama. After that, whenever he used the kaioken, it's never given a number. It's up in the air. Hence he could have used whateve...

I don't think so. Vermouth described him as no different from a GoD and he was right. By all intents and purposes he IS a GoD, energy of destruction and all, together with a power boost big enough to overpower SSBE Vegeta initially. The thing is, that Vegeta was compared to 20xKK Blue Goku very con...

Introducing a power ceiling would be great.

Well, the simpler explanation is that it's not a Majin, it just looks like one for some reason

Talking strictly about Goku and Vegeta here. Well, apparently, stronger than the Kaioshins, which is super weird, but understandable, considering how much they trained with Whis. However, an improved SSj2 Trunks could put pressure on Goku as a SSj3, which is ridiculous unless they're equal at base l...

- How is GoD Toppo compared to other GoDs? Does he have a chance to beat any of them? Vermouth said he was no different from a GoD and his only weakness seemed to be the time it took for Hakai to charge (something that seems more related to his experience in that form). Is he probably weaker than B...