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by Thani
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?
Replies: 8
Views: 188

Re: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?

In the anime: he ended the ToP weaker than Ultimate Gohan, but slightly stronger than SSj2 Gohan, since he outfought him in their training. In the manga: it was never detailed just how Piccolo made Gohan recover his power, so I'll assume it was somewhat similar to the anime. So slightly stronger tha...
by Thani
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Just saying it right now: if Moro is to be considerably weaker than Beerus, than by necessity he has to be that much weaker to pretty much all the others Gods of Destruction as they are all roughly equal. That means he is equally weaker than Jiren and Broly, who are explicitly at GoD level.
by Thani
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I hope not. I keep saying it, but if it somehow keeps at the rate that people want it to go, Beerus is gonna end up stronger than Whis just so his rematch with Goku could happen. And Beerus being capable of finger flicking the other Gods of Destruction is, at all, a ridiculous assumption. It's prett...
by Thani
Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Moro didn't overcome Forced Spirit Fission. At all. He explicitly made it a point that he could simply dodge it. Because if he got hit by Vegeta's attacks again, his whole absorption of 7-3 would be rendered moot. In fact, Moro could very well dodge all of Vegeta's attacks in their first bout. He wa...
by Thani
Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?
Replies: 75
Views: 1268

Re: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?

Honestly? I would much like prefer that there is only one Kaioshin, and retroactively retcon the other Kaioshins as "mere" Kais (and Zamasu already shown us that the more humanoid shinjin can be Kais). That would keep them relevant for much of the story in Z (imagine King Kai not capping at just 4.0...
by Thani
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

These speed feats in the manga are utter nonsense, mostly because it's super arbitrary. At least the anime went out of the way to point out that, when Jiren and UI Goku start duking it out, only the Gods of Destruction and those close to that level or above it could see the fight that's happening.
by Thani
Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

As far as enemies fought go, I always felt it was better to just lump the 3 latest ones in the same general level much like all the Gods of Destruction. Basically, base Jiren, Super Saiyan Full-Power Broly, and 7-3 Moro are all equal. And then rank the powers beyond this as on the same general leve...
by Thani
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The evidence is that both Broly and Jiren were compared to one or more Gods of Destruction. Broly was stated stronger than Beerus, Jiren was confirmed stronger than Belmod. Gods of Destruction are relative to one another, the difference is not too significant. For Moro to be stronger than both Jiren...
by Thani
Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Where would you guys put a hypothetical anime Moro? How would he fare against shirtless Jiren and a nakama/rage boosted MUI Goku? Prime+ Moro: More or less equal to the third usage of Omen, maybe stronger. 7-3 Moro: Stronger than the third usage of Omen (enough to easily dodge and send him away) fo...
by Thani
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35041
Views: 2727260

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Another thing is that Goku doesn't like to kill or continue fighting someone who is already defeated. He's not much of an executioner. But I don't see what that has to do with fighting as an Earthling, unless he just means "I'm going to be myself". I think that may be it. Because as a Galactic Patr...
by Thani
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Prime Moro did not low diff Omen Goku and nothing in the narrative suggested that he became unfathomably stronger than his ToP self. 7-3 Moro low diff Omen, but was stomped by the perfected UI. Jiren fought a somewhat lesser manifestation of that UI but managed to stay on his feet, adapt and eventu...
by Thani
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:03 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Prime Moro did not low diff Omen Goku and nothing in the narrative suggested that he became unfathomably stronger than his ToP self. 7-3 Moro low diff Omen, but was stomped by the perfected UI. Jiren fought a somewhat lesser manifestation of that UI but managed to stay on his feet, adapt and eventua...
by Thani
Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I feel people place too much value on out-of-universe vague statements of power progression even when the product contradicts it: U6 Hit was never shown to be able to surpass SSG, Black Rose couldn't keep up with SSG's speed, while Golden Freeza was stronger than SSB. And there were no gains to put...
by Thani
Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I feel people place too much value on out-of-universe vague statements of power progression even when the product contradicts it: U6 Hit was never shown to be able to surpass SSG, Black Rose couldn't keep up with SSG's speed, while Golden Freeza was stronger than SSB. And there were no gains to put...
by Thani
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

At this rate, Beerus will be so powerful that he could just swat all the others Gods of Destruction like flies. Which would be so hilariously stupid that that old fanfic where he pretty much kills everyone up to and almost including the Omniking, in a dream, would actually make sense. What I'm sayin...
by Thani
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This is one of the rules of their test fight, but it doesn’t mean Beerus showed everything he got. It wasn't a test fight? Perhaps technically due to it being meant as a reference for a tournament, but the GoDs were very much told to fight to the death on the order of the Omni-King. It only stopped...
by Thani
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Here's a question I was wondering about: How strong do you think the students at Tenshinhan's dojo are? (Excluding Yurin of course) Are they just average humans who would lose to the likes of Mr. Satan? Or are they possibly early Dragonball level, knowing techniques like flight and Dodonpa? Do you ...
by Thani
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well, if we're using numbers, then I would go, in a conservative way, following the example above: Grand Priest: ????? (Never fought, so no way to know. He's still one of, if not the, the Top 5 warriors in the multiverse) Whis: 1500 Merus: 1300~1400 Moro [7.3]: 1000~1100 Blue Gogeta [Broly]: 1100~13...
by Thani
Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32699
Views: 1896806

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

He also did it in the anime. Both in Omen and in the Completed variant.

I'm pretty sure UI is supposed to have that aura and the silver hair.