Kanzenshuu

More or less. It is definitely consistent now, but in BoG the SSG transformation was deemed superior to fusion.

I honestly don't mind to fusion being really powerful, but equal to superior to Blue in just Base seems... excessive, I guess, to me. But it really doesn't matter.

Which would be stupid, but, not inaccurate to what DBS: Broly showed us.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/E6-l7y2OyLEBfI36GX9KHPJUvOcI_Sm_V9b1Jv6tfDPiR-P6VgGz_9hF_YPm2lNknHgD-mdpZzJ6olTRi4zb-kG7JH7majLq1wTJemRqNL-KRzcgqNNq3zwTQTTABFTFHXpgZA=s0?title=035_1493126603.png He said both. To be fair tho, it could very well be his arrogance speaking louder. Manga Black/Zamasu is SUPRE...

Well, they seem to have backtracked from that position in later arcs. It's the only way that Trunks could have matched SSJ2 Goku, that Gohan could still be relevant with regular training from Piccolo, etc.

I’m srry but this nothing but head canon nothing in the manga stated kefla was weakened due to her fusee being hurt at all let alone implied Nothing stated such, but we know in universe the fusion doesn't start at full power if the individuals are weakened. The fusion doesn't seem to show fatigue o...

You think Moro might just end up in a prison so Lula could break free and reveal himself to be the real threat? Holy Shit, I think that was the best sentence about this arc I've ever read hahahaha About Buu, well, Daikaioshin indeed WAS "God-tier" before beating Moro the first time. But after sacri...

Honestly, that could be very well just Jiren whining because Goku's attacks are now hurting him.

Like Miracles said, it's unknown. Moro's main scthick was not using his own power, but the planet's. So even if he's stronger now (before the wish to restore his full magic), he was still relying in the planet's energy, which was topped by SSBE Vegeta. I'd argue that even that younger, he would stil...

That's true, but I was referring to his overall power set. But also yes, in raw power alone he was below SSG Vegeta.

The only canon fact we have in power comparison among the gods is that Beerus and Quitela were fighting for the throne of strongest. Everyone else is lower than them. I disagree. Sidra managed to block a blast from Beerus, powerful enough to perhaps take out or at least seriously damage a fellow Go...

Difference 1 Manga version : Goku is the one who uses the mafuba on Future Zamasu True version : Future Trunks is the one who uses the mafuba on Future Zamasu Difference 2 Manga version : Future Zeno erases the entire timeline of Future Trunks True version : Future Zeno just erases all the universe...

Yeah, I prefer the anime overall, but the manga has little details that I just adore as well. The scaling of the manga, SSG being more used, the SSG-Blue variation, CSSB, Black having SSj, etc. What I do particularly dislike is the amazing and not at all subtle bias that Toyotaro have for Vegeta, it...

Definitely Gohan and Vegeta. Unlocking SSj offscreen is already egregious, and then Ultimate, although awesome, was gained by simply sitting around and amounted to nothing in the plot itself. SSBE is completely undeserved both in the manga and the anime, Vegeta achieved it by basically whining. Goku...

The thing I disliked most about Super's manga is how QUICK the stories ends. I get that it's monthly, but the resolutions are so fast that I feel Toyotaro is honestly rushing things. I hope it's not the end of the arc, because finally we can see something from Moro. And if he's actually interesting,...

I'm not keeping up with the manga, how is Moro compared to people like Black or Zamasu? So far there is no way to know. He was trashed by SSBE Vegeta and held the advantage over SSG Vegeta, then absorbed both his and Goku's ki. Both versions of Vegeta that fought Moro are respectively weaker and st...

To be fair, a fight like Broly's would benefit from being in space. Beerus x Champa showed very well what happens when opponents at that level fight without bothering to control themselves. Planets were being destroyed left and right. SS Broly should have accidentally destroyed the Earth when he fir...

The only canon fact we have in power comparison among the gods is that Beerus and Quitela were fighting for the throne of strongest. Everyone else is lower than them. I disagree. Sidra managed to block a blast from Beerus, powerful enough to perhaps take out or at least seriously damage a fellow Go...

To be fair, Moro IS physically weak right now. His greatest asset was his magic, and Vegeta made short work of him when it stopped being effective. Maybe his strength doesn't increase linearly, since he only "changed" after absorbing the last remnants of Goku and Vegeta's ki, and Merus was able to c...

A little bloated, but kinda makes sense. SSG Goku IS an ant next to Beerus, according to Super, anyway.

That narrative matters only for the DB Verse. We know for a fact that ToriBot is greater than Zen'Oh as well. The little guy is extremely powerful, on par with high tier cosmic beings from other settings, but so far even he has limits (like being subjected to time, with múltiple copies of him across...