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- Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:09 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Beast Gohan hitting UI Goku isn't special. Jiren did it. Moro and Granolah did as well. But generally UI Goku can't be hit and that is the point. Beast can be stronger but if he can't hit or rarely hits UI Goku then what is the point of all that power? (Plus UI Goku gets hit when his stamina lowers...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Beast Gohan hitting UI Goku isn't special. Jiren did it. Moro and Granolah did as well. But generally UI Goku can't be hit and that is the point. Beast can be stronger but if he can't hit or rarely hits UI Goku then what is the point of all that power? (Plus UI Goku gets hit when his stamina lowers...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:59 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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- Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:06 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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People seem to forget, this is a sparring match. No aim to kill, and the purpose of it is to show off their power some. Goku simply says winning or losing was never the point and that is ALL he said. Regardless of that Gohan still hits Goku so hard that the impact from the hit and then the impact f...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:57 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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I read the chapter too, Gohan powered up some and then bypassed Goku's ui speed and dodging and hit him SO hard he lost UI, and apparently Gohan hasn't masted this form yet either. So in terms of power Gohan is higher but as Vegeta points out there is a gap in experience with Goku having the experi...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:40 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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I read the chapter too, Gohan powered up some and then bypassed Goku's ui speed and dodging and hit him SO hard he lost UI, and apparently Gohan hasn't masted this form yet either. So in terms of power Gohan is higher but as Vegeta points out there is a gap in experience with Goku having the experi...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:08 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Well
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- Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:22 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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He has seen Beerus in the Destroyer Tournament where killing was not a thing but was it ever said Beerus went all out?? He was simply stronger than the others and only Quitella and possibly Belmod were near him. Mind you Beerus was getting ganged up on early on and still was handling them.
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:40 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Not only that.
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- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:17 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Again, I am not arguing that Beerus would or would not be using a transformation. I am saying he likely does shoot up in power when actually using UE and it being a technique Vegeta was able to copy it by watching Beerus use it. If there is no visual difference there had to be something about it Veg...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:28 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Yet Goku used Hakai on Fused Zamasu and it was working if not for him stopping it, and he did it without needing to use UE. I think you misread my comment a bit, I said Beerus used a technique not a transformation(he doesn't need a transformation for it) and it likely shot his ki up. Otherwise he di...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:14 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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and this is why that doesn't quite make complete sense. Vegeta has seen Destruction multiple times. Goku used Destruction while in SSB so Beerus wasn't talking about Destruction when telling Vegeta to copy whatever technique he SEES. If Beerus is always in UE then there is no visual technique to act...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:21 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Goku never saw Beerus full power or him using Ultra Ego. The highest bit of power he saw in the anime was in BoG which turned out to be Beerus lying about the percent he was using anyway to which ONLY Whis knew Beerus was lying, in the manga it was in the GoD Tournament but they were not fighting to...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:26 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Another thing I wanted to point out, is that it's possible that Saiyans suffer from the Hayflick Limit just like Humans and the "Saiyan Power" ability could also have it's own version of the Hayflick Limit. Vegeta when using UE and allowing himself to take more damage than he should could ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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So is UE Vegeta meant to be much weaker than UI Goku? Vegeta seems to peak at True UI level back in Cereal (If even that), but seems weird for Vegeta to brag about beating Goku in their latest sparring when UI Goku would run circles around him. I remember a video with Toyotaro saying Goku and Veget...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:26 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Actually, speaking about Piccolo, I've seen a lot of folks in other parts of the internet bring up the notion that Piccolo couldn't possibly know how strong Gamma 1 and 2 were because he can't sense them, nor gauge how strong Goku and Vegeta are due to not being able to sense God Ki. I've always fo...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:55 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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The dispute is; if Moro didn't want Vegeta to touch him with Spirit Fission because he would of caused damage to make the technique work against Moro. Then how in the world is Moro 7-3 going to tag and damage a current fusion dance or Patora merge with Goku and Vegeta? Thoughts? Moro could probably...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:39 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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In terms of who has the most latent power and potential Toriyama has repeatedly made it clear that Gohan is the one. That's about the only solid thing nowadays besides Beerus being the strongest not including the Angels, and the mortals have yet to reach him.
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:11 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39785
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Some things are cut and dry, but then another chapter or statement is made that retcons it. This is why people have doubts. As of chapter 102 Goku's current Silver UI is his best thing he has. Can that change in the coming chapters? Yes it can. I think the arguing is just people LOOKING to argue.
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:16 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Hmm. I'll have to rewatch this whole segment. But what about the sparring later? Didn't Piccolo Vs Gohan suggest they were on par with each other later? Piccolo was training Gohan from the basics , so he wasn’t being serious about it. Gohan gets it when Goku picks up Piccolo as the 5th fighter on h...