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Zebra wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2026 9:04 pm I never insulted you once.

Neither did I

I'm not the one throwing around personal attacks. "You're hopeless, you're a brick wall". All over a difference in opinion.

I could've not responded, but your last response was smug, so why not? Since you wanna be a wise guy, it's fair game.


You keep being guilty of everything you're accusing ...

If you have nothing else to add, then why bother responding? Right, to make yourself feel better by getting the last word in. You can't handle disagreements, so you have to resort to ad hominem.


Everything you've said here applies to you. You could have also not responded right? So don't play ...

As I've said, hopeless

The moment Vegeeta sees Gokuu again after returning to Earth, he was butthurt over him hiding SS3. Ended up crushing the Potala, and even refused to do the fusion dance with him despite the fact they would've only been fused for 30 minutes. Nothing about that suggests him having softened up ...

You made some pretty bad points here


Nothing to do with Gokuu.

Vegeta softening changes his outlook on EVERYTHING, including Goku, who has been his n1 obsession, so it only makes sense that the culmination of his development includes Goku, and it's disingenuous to say otherwise.
His entire ...

Agreed and on top of that, while Vegeta does redeem himself to a degree by blowing himself up, it was worth bringing him back to witness his epiphany in finally admitting without it wounding his pride that Goku is #1.

As for the question at hand, I'm fine with it inherently but feel it's overused ...

Who is the strongest Z character DBS Piccolo (pre SH) can defeat? Manga and anime.


Semi Perfect Cell, I think he can defeat him comfortably by the end of Z, since from what we know, he kept training as usual.

He probably can't beat Perfect Cell, because he was still used as a measuring stick ...

Nobody is claiming to know Toriyama better than the people who worked with him. But we are pointing out the obvious (well should be obvious) fact that there’s very little room for doubt who Trunks parents were.

And again memories are not infallible and people can and will play up things for the ...

I didn't say they made up a new memory; it's very possible that they mixed up details for the design process with the actual manga itself; or as Julie said, Toriyama was just bullshitting/dragging his feet them until he actually put the explanation to paper.


Still, hard to believe they would ...

Do you truly, honestly think, that Toryama planted the seeds of Vegeta and Bulma being a thing, assimilated Vegeta into Earth, and then rolled out a Super Saiyan from the future that couldn't possibly be the son of Goku and wearing the one piece of clothing most likely to be associated with Bulma ...

I assume that’s what Jjggp meant, but also yes there’s no reason for Goku and Chi Chi’s hypothetical second son having Bulma’s hair color and wearing a jacket branded with Bulma’s family’s company


Again, Trunks had no hair color in those chapters because the manga is in black and white . His ...

Trunks looks nothing like Goku, Gohan, or Chi-Chi.

Like I said, the Capsule Corp jacket doesn't automatically make Bulma his mom. But it DOES establish that he's from Earth. And that's where the interview stops passing the smell test.

1) If he's a Saiyan clearly from Earth, he's clearly not the ...

“Toriyama is a quirky guy known for making shit up as he goes along let’s play that up”


It's still true lol as he often admitted HIMSELF


A. I have raised the possibility that the alternative was Goku fucked Bulma behind Chi Chi’s back, yes

B. From whomst? Raditz? Because that makes sense ...

I mean it does seem weird that Toriyama would roll out a Super Saiyan from the future with a hairstyle similar to Bulma's and a Capsule Corp jacket that immediately establishes a connection with Earth if he didn't at the very least intend for him to be the son of Vegeta. I think the editors may ...

Sensationalism is a thing. I’m not here to claim “oh Toriyama planned out who Trunks was long before he showed up” but I am saying the claim of “Oh Toriyama had no idea who the parents of the mysterious boy who can turn Super Saiyan and wears a Capsule Corp jacket were” is suspect. This is a ...

This also just reeks of Toriyama forgetting what happened back when he was writing the story like when he claimed he forgot about Lunch, even though her being written out was explained in the story.

This dude in a CAPSULE CORP crop top jacket turns Supe Saiyan. Short of Goku fucking Bulma behind ...

That interview also stated that Toriyama came up with Vegeta and Bulma being Trunks' parents AFTER he had already turned Super Saiyan and killed Freeza, so that really shows how little planning there was, improvisation was the name of the game

Yeah, I apologize. Came off like a bitch there.
The point of that post was just, "Yeah, I know what Dragon Ball is, no need to insult my intelligence."
I would still like to see that, though. Given that Dragon Ball toyed with the same idea numerous times before (Cell Saga, GT, ToP)


It's alright ...

France's official Dragon Ball Super calendar for 2027:
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0GR56HHFW

Probably the illustrations were made by the same person who did the artwork for Dragon Ball Pop-up Tour USA 2026.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81rBqvdkjIL._SL1400_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com ...