Kanzenshuu

Point 1: Nappa is weaker than Goku, Goku was smacking him around and then used the Kaio Ken. Vegeta and Goku both say Nappa would have lost to Goku. Going further Goku is 8,000+ and Nappa is 4,000. Android 18 was used for two reasons to show that the current Andorids were stronger than Trunks thoug...

It sure was super honorable for Vegeta to murder Nappa while he was asking for help See bolded part. Freeza did not make the Saiyans do bad things. Vegeta says Frieza made them worse then they would normally be. They saiyans were not good people before Frieza but from what little we saw they acted ...

SSJ God is a form and a way to introduce God Ki to a saiyan. Goku calls SSJ God and God Ki the same thing in the Super anime, he interchanges them. Once you master this God Ki you just need to turn SSJ to get blue or if you are a true God Rose. Blue is the color of a false God or someone who become ...

You're ignoring how stories build up tension now and what the story is telling us just to defend you own head canon now. Toriyama usually designed combat scenarios that defied the usual rules of how stories are built. In the Nappa vs Goku fight the overall purpose of Nappa was to demonstrate how st...

It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:46 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:05 am

Saiyans looked like they had honor, Frieza made Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz act like they acted.

It sure was super honorable for Vegeta to murder Nappa while he was asking for help

See bolded part.

Super Saiyan God is a form a mortal has to transform into the become a God but it isn't the only way to acquire God Ki. Black is not a mortal he is a God. When Black turns SSJ instead of yellow hair he gets Rose hair. SSJ Blue is just a mortal who has become a SSJ God now turning SSJ. The original ...

Well, he's saying that he drew that scene with a 10x multiplier on mind (which is a mulitplier that actually makes sense considering what's seen in the manga), a 50x multiplier would be incoherent with the internal rules of the series. how so? Goku was using a x20 multiplier with Kaiohken, and it w...

BS. Name two times outside of keeping someone alive in a fight that any Saiyan outside of Goku was honor bound to aid someone and delivered. Saiyans have honor in fighting not in Aid. Every time Goku and Vegeta tell someone to power up instead of wiping them out that is honor in fighting. Bardock s...

The point about useless weak guards, however, is valid, but that's part of every single sci-fi story in history, from Star Wars to Star Trek to Marvel: Infinity War. Toriyama used that trope often enough too, even into games like Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger. That's an easy explanation; Guard du...

Super Saiyan God is a form a mortal has to transform into the become a God but it isn't the only way to acquire God Ki. Black is not a mortal he is a God. When Black turns SSJ instead of yellow hair he gets Rose hair. SSJ Blue is just a mortal who has become a SSJ God now turning SSJ. The original s...

Expect SSJ is a fixed multiplier and Ikari is stated to be the power of Oozaru. The SSJ being a fixed multiplier breaks the internal coherence of the whole series, defeats the purpose of all the trainings seen in the Cell saga and breaks Super even more where Toriyama made it pretty clear with Vege...

Salgir also posted power levels for this special ★ POWER LEVELS! ★ Vegeta: 18K (This is what he was at the same period in the manga) Nappa: 8K (On Earth, he isn’t afraid of 5K Gokû, but at 8K, he panics (Over nine thousand meme, it’s actually eight)) Raditz: was 1.2K (When fetched Kakarotto, as muc...

[ Broly should have a 50x ssj form and a 500x ssj + ikari form. The SSJ aren't fixed multipliers, and seeing his performance in the fight compared to his base state (and his complete lack of training) it's obvious that the SSJ forms had very limited multipliers for him (1,5-3x in his SSJ form and 4...

Broly should have a 50x ssj form and a 500x ssj + ikari form.

America should be a lot better than how we treat our people but our government's power is way to divided to turn into Nazi Germany mode. Any president that tried to do this would be removed from power and one thing about our citizens is if it was discovered that the government was acting in this way...

The amount of ki in Goku is 10. His physical strength is much higher than a human.

Peach wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:38 am

I think the form would kill them, just like it almost killed Goku the last time.

It's said the form emits heat. Maybe only Saiyan bodies can handle techniques like Ultra Instinct and Kaio-Ken

Omen is something created by the saiyan body it seems.

It was stated in both the manga and tv special that Trunk was as strong as Gohan when he was killed before he went out to fight the Androids and got his ass kicked. So if Trunks can stomped Mecha Frieza, then Gohan should logically be the same even with one arm. In either case, Gohan had no busines...

Goku is undergoing transformations that boost his power and unlock Ultra instinct is my understanding so Humans wouldn't get omen regardless. I would love for this to be explained later as that's the way I see it.

Considering where the movie takes place Old Slug could be Ginyu level and young Slug is 2nd form Frieza maybe even initial Final form Frieza. Goku vs Freeza was just as bad, Goku had harder time against Ginyu Force, yet was somehow strong enough to force Freeza to transform into 4th form (There is ...