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by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

If you believe that's headcanon, you don't know what headcanon is then. 1. Goten and Trunks trained as Gotenks in the RoSaT to learn those forms; they didn't just fuse and have them like you're insinuating Vegerot does despite him never going SS3 ever. 2. Vegerot never used IT, and you arguing tech...
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:49 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

You're being disingenuous by arguing a technique anyone can learn, for example the Kamehameha, is the same as a transformation unique to a certain race. We've never seen a fusion in the series use a unique transformation only one of the fusees had. Purely headcanon to insinuate Vegerot could use SS...
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?
Replies: 7
Views: 99

Re: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?

SSJ is an abbreviation of the Japanese term for Super Saiyan, “スーパーサイヤ人/ Sūpā Saiyajin”. 人/jin and is not a fan term it's an abrivation. As I already showed you, and you ignored, SS is the proper term used by English speakers and the Japanese. SSJ is a fan-created acronym, and an improper one at th...
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

Abilities aren't transformations. What you're arguing right now is the equivalent of saying a fusion between Hercule and Freeza would be able to go Golden. A transformation is an ability. Techniques and transformations are both abilities. Also if Vegito can go Ssj why cant he go ssj3. Also where is...
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?
Replies: 7
Views: 99

Re: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?

Anime fanboys love their fan-created terms like SSJ, Mystic, and Omen. Ssj and Omen aren't fan terms their shortened versions of offical names. Sign is the official name https://i.imgur.com/YVMkirB.jpg SS is the official acronym https://i.imgur.com/qQJxbyR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Fkb9keL.jpg Omen a...
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

Abilities aren't transformations. What you're arguing right now is the equivalent of saying a fusion between Hercule and Freeza would be able to go Golden. A transformation is an ability. Techniques and transformations are both abilities. Also if Vegito can go Ssj why cant he go ssj3. Also where is...
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?
Replies: 7
Views: 99

Re: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?

God wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:48 am
Anime fanboys love their fan-created terms like SSJ, Mystic, and Omen.
Ssj and Omen aren't fan terms their shortened versions of offical names.
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

God wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:42 am
Mad Swami wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:54 am
God wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:07 am
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Never stated in the series at all.
Then how can Vegito go Ssj, use a Kamehameha and the Big Bang attack?
by miguelnuva1
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?
Replies: 7
Views: 99

Why is it still being called Mastered Ultra instinct?

Silver haired form is completed Ultra Instinct or Just Ultra instinct. Nothing about the form is mastered.
by miguelnuva1
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

God wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:07 am
Koitsukai wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:31 am
SS3 is 8x stronger than SS. Buuhan would need to become 10x stronger at least to match SS3 Vegito.
Nothing shows Vegerot can go SS3.
Goku can go ssj3, its stated Vegito has access to everything Goku and Vegeta have.
by miguelnuva1
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:25 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?
Replies: 31
Views: 659

Re: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?

Gohan stopped Broly's momentum temporally when he flew at him and later 3 ssjs overpowered him. Gogeta is the strongest movie character before Beerus. Also it was stated in m11 Goku and Pikkon could handle Broly and Goku says Fat Janemba is the greatest ki he's ever sinced. Both Fat Buu and Broly w...
by miguelnuva1
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegito Mui would beat Whis.
Replies: 13
Views: 221

Re: Vegito Mui would beat Whis.

Unless Whis isn't hell of a lot stronger than Beerus the evolved kaioken Blue Gogeta should be able to fight Whis.

People still underestimate how crazy fusion is.
by miguelnuva1
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?
Replies: 28
Views: 270

Re: How many more Mystic Gohan absorptions would it take for Buuhan to beat SSJ3 Vegito?

Gohan was about half Buuhan's power so he'd need like 20 more.

Vegito was paying was playing with Buu the entire time.
by miguelnuva1
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?
Replies: 31
Views: 659

Re: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?

Unless the writers state the Z fighters were also stronger in the Broly films, Broly has limits. M10 who is stronger than M8 couldn't put down Ssj2 Gohan as easily as Far Buu put down Ssj2 Majin Vegeta. Broly has limits, make no mistake about that. Its just that in the Z movies, Broly was the stron...
by miguelnuva1
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?
Replies: 31
Views: 659

Re: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?

Unless the writers state the Z fighters were also stronger in the Broly films, Broly has limits.

M10 who is stronger than M8 couldn't put down Ssj2 Gohan as easily as Far Buu put down Ssj2 Majin Vegeta.
by miguelnuva1
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 13
Views: 264

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

Old Kai is a semi unreliable narrator as his knowledge of Potara only comes from him using the earrings. Gowasu saying Potara is stronger would hold more weight. Old Kai also says how amazing Potara and later says Goku and Vegeta are the reason fusion went so far. As for Gogeta and Gotenks it is sta...
by miguelnuva1
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:51 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How powerful do you think a Piccolo and Lord Slug Namekian fusion would have been?
Replies: 6
Views: 124

Re: How powerful do you think a Piccolo and Lord Slug Namekian fusion would have been?

Fusing with King Piccolo in one of the games made him Super Level so I'll be generous and say he would be in par with pre rosat ssj Gotenks.
by miguelnuva1
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 5
Views: 171

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

To me Omen is 10x Goku's Blue kaioken x20 and it leaves him a bit of a boost after he drops out.

UI is 2x Omen as the main point is you can attack with the power of UI. Omen is just defense and speed mostly.
by miguelnuva1
Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780667

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Omen is not viable to Goku at this point so Goku is capped at completed Blue. Vegeta has evolved Blue as his cap. This Vegeta has surpassed Goku. Goku has already learned how to use UI Omen at will. If there are comparisons between Goku and Vegeta (as happened in this chapter), then Vegeta's SSBE w...
by miguelnuva1
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31738
Views: 1780667

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Omen is not viable to Goku at this point so Goku is capped at completed Blue. Vegeta has evolved Blue as his cap. This Vegeta has surpassed Goku. Vegeta has an attack that is better suited for dealing with Moro. Vegeta is more effective than Goku. Omen can trade blows with Moro and is stronger than ...