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And South Kaioshin was the strongest of the four Kaioshin. We have to gather that South Kaioshin must have been stronger than Dabura, because if Majin Buu deemed South Kaioshin worth absorbing, and not Dabura, than we have to assume that South Kaioshin was stronger than Dabura, don't we.

I'm in a ...

he did say that a fighter stronger than him would show up to defeat Fat Buu When Goku talked to Buu he only said the ones they were after would come in a couple days, he never told Buu they'd be stronger than him(and he held back, anyway).

Actually, as soon as he got back from the Fat Buu fight ...

Just because Goku was counting on Super Gotenks being strong enough to defeat the fat Majin Boo, it doesn't make a very strong argument for SSJ3 Gotenks being stronger than Goku. After all Goku states plainly that he could've destroyed the fat Majin Boo as well.

So all that proves is that they ...

(even though he did say that a figher stronger than himself would show up to fight Buu, which he's obviously referring to Gotenks)

But when he said that, the kids hadn't even Danced once, much less become Gotenks. Goku was BS-ing and hoping the fusion would be enough/the thought of a strong ...

Earlier, it's stated that SSJ Gotenks is more powerful than SSJ3 Goku (Goku says this).

I've heard this said a few times, when did Goku say this?

Since Xyex had to leave, I told him I'd go ahead and address this.

Ok, in chapter 4 of Volume 40, Goku tells Piccolo that Buu seemed satisfied that ...

Vegeta - Had to put aside his pride and sell himself into slavery.

Again, no, Vegeta did not sell himself into slavery. He clearly resisteted Babidi and did what he wanted, when he wanted. Hell, in the manga, he even told Babidi he wouldn’t be his slave.

Gohan - Had to sit on his ass for a day ...

Okay the discussion was Shenron was not as powerful as Piccolo which is why he was able to be destroyed correct?

Um, sort of. What we were discussing were what he meant by “Shenron being as a powerful as Kamisama (or Dende)”. Duo made the comment that since Shenron was stated to have equal power ...

The best thing to do would be to show DBZ episode one.

Reason being, people think DBZ is a show with all charcters that look the same and have names like Gokan(a combination of the two names they may have heard with people usually come out with).

I can definitely agree with this. Reason being is ...

Like many, I too was first introduced to DBZ by way of the dub. And to be quite honest, I didn't like it. Luckily I found the story interesting enough that it made me go and explore it further, thus my introduction to the Japanese version (which is eventually what I "fell in love with"). Now all ...

I definitely would enjoy a Future Trunks follow up (for that matter I'd also enjoy an Uub story as well).

I liked most the ideas that "The S" presented. I definitely would like more history explained, especially dealing with the origins of the position of Kami on Earth and creation of the lookout ...

The Simpson’s parody was indeed pretty good. That was an impressive reproduction of the Goku/Vegeta fight.

Anyway, keep it coming.

I'm not sure if this has ever been asked before, but is the name "Kibito" a pun off of anything? I also sometimes see it spelled "Kibit".

Xyex wrote:How far in was the manga at that point, anyway? Anyone know?

If you're referring to when Pilaf first showed up, then as I stated in my original post, they first appeared in 7th Chapter of Volume 2 (or also known as Chapter 18 of the overall manga).

I agree with everything said above, but I'd just like to point out that from a purely manga standpoint, it is at least POSSIBLE that during the 20 (or something like that) some years that Future Gohan trained himself, that he did develop some techniques and that one of those could be the move we see ...

Well, what the HFIL (:D ) is wrong with you guys? Even thought DBGT is crap, they should at least make one DBGT anniversary. Yes, for the first and last time, they should make at least one DBGT anniversary.

Just out of curiosity, if you think GT is crap, why would you want them to make an ...

I disagree. The dragon was created to grant wishes. Therefore all of his power would be used to grant that wish. If not he would not need to recharge for a year after granting a wish.

Granting a wish for the dragon would be the same as Goku using all of his energy for a Kamehameha.

No, ki and ...

I don't believe Trunks ever used the Kamehameha, but he did use the Masenko in Movie 8 (along side present-time Gohan) and I believe there was an anime scene where Trunks might have used it with Future Gohan against the Androids, but I may have just made that one up.

Vegeta had to sell himself into slavery to get the Majin powerup. Gohan had to sit on his ass.

Vegeta didn't sell himself into slavery. He clearly showed that he was resistant to Babidi's control. The fact that he was still Majin Vegeta and he not only destroyed Babidi's ship but also attacked ...

But don't you think when the idea came up for Movie 5, Toriyama would have said, "Hey guys, that's not how the Cold family goes".

Considering that Toriyama once stated in an interview that he thought of the movies as being in a different dimension from his own work, I don't think he would ...

I don't think things that contribute to the story should ever be considered filler.

But that's what it is. Filler isn't a condescending term (despite what many use it as). It simply is used for things that the anime added that were not already in the manga. Whether or not it helped to contribute ...