Kanzenshuu

Gah this makes me feel like the dumbest noob ever and I've watched every episode and movie...I just cant remember this. Is it explicitly stated somewhere that a Kaio-Ken literally multiplies your abilities by that number? Is it possible its just amplifying the technique? The way I remember King Kai ...

ryou766 wrote:Please... no more Mirai Goten theories.

If you read back I'm not stating a theory. I'm stating what I wish they'd written and acknowledged there is probably a 0.0001% chance of it happening. I actually think the Goten theories are dumb and make no sense based on what we have seen.

So you want future X characters cuz our timeline kids are handled badly? No thanks... I'm sorry if I worded that poorly. That was not what I intended to imply in the least. I simply meant that I've always been a fan of Goten and I think a future where Goten goes the exact opposite path as his fathe...

It could be argued fair enough, but from Toriyama saying he has no intention of them surpassing Beerus soon, that'd throw a wrench in that. Goku also I don't think held back at all. He's never said to have held back. Hit only held back in the sense he can't use his killing techniques, which his mov...

Good thread. Posting a lot today because I'm new and excited so here we go :lol: I think the Frieza storyline is what makes a lot of people upset. It was really poorly done and Frieza deserved much better than that. They could have even gone with the "I've never trained before..." I actual...

I think Super has been on par with the Cell Saga and better than Buu Saga. People wouldn't be complaining so much if that's how good it was or even half as good. Why you are judging super so early??? we are in the beginning of the trunks saga and it was a perfect start for a arc. 48 episodes is eno...

I find the Kaio-Ken x10 silly because it's really hard to not see how it wouldn't make Goku stronger than Beerus. Especially when he isn't supposed to be. Whis already said if Goku and Vegeta work together, they could potentially beat Beerus. A Kaio-Ken X2 or up with Vegeta would practically guaran...

I don't think it's filler simply due to the fact that even though Toriyama isn't "writing" it per se it is set almost directly after Buu and follows his idea for the next stage of the DB story even if some think its poorly executed. I mean if Super is filler everything else released at thi...

I'm not sure it should have been scrapped but I do think it should have been done MUCH MUCH BETTER and is the weakest arc in an otherwise good DB Series (IMO of course)

I find the Kaio-Ken x10 silly because it's really hard to not see how it wouldn't make Goku stronger than Beerus. Especially when he isn't supposed to be. Whis already said if Goku and Vegeta work together, they could potentially beat Beerus. A Kaio-Ken X2 or up with Vegeta would practically guaran...

kinisking wrote:Imo, super isn't good enough to be compared to Z. Imo it's in the middle between GT and Z

Nothing will ever top the Saiyan/Freeza saga but personally I think Super has been on par with the Cell Saga and better than Buu Saga.

I 100% believe he is not a Makaioshin for reasons I posted in another thread. I also wish he was Goten You have my curiosity. Why do you wish Black was Goten? The thing I found interesting about Black is how he used the word Saiyan in his statements. It's clear he does not like Saiyans at all. The ...

Mastering SSJ didn't mean that their ki and stamina wouldn't drop, it just removed the extra taxing. So like anyone who exerts themselves, they will tire out as SSJ's still. Basically Goku was exerting himself as an SSJ to try and keep up with Hit, which just like with Cell, would end up causing hi...

Hey guys...this is just a serious question so if I'm way off base correct me :thumbup: Does Ki Control literally mean you don't use any Ki? Because I always considered it similar to gas in a car but extreme of course. You can make that gas more efficient but in the end you have to burn through it at...

The thing I found interesting about Black is how he used the word Saiyan in his statements. It's clear he does not like Saiyans at all. The one thing that stood out though was when he said something about "an end to a proud warrior race". Idk why but I got a weird vibes from it. He litera...

I think Whis is a huge clue to this. He has stated several times that Goku "Needs to become stronger". Why would Whis EVER say that unless he knew there was a threat? He is from the realm of Gods who obviously give less than two F's about humanity to the point even the ultimate God Zeno ha...

First off I'm new so don't flame me too hard if I'm wrong on anything here, you guys all seem to be the experts and I'm just jumping in as a big fan of the Dragon Ball Universe :D Also I know there is already a "Who is Black Goku" thread. If it is deemed this is too similar I apologize and...