Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Miracles]

I'm honestly okay with Broly not lasting so long in his FPSSJ or "Berserk" or "LSSJ" form against Gogeta. This new Broly is no longer just a hulking, green haired mess of rage and yelling Kakarot. He's more than his iconic form.

The classic Broly embraced being evil. While this Broly seems to be a victim. According to the spoilers but I take everyone of them with a grain of salt.

That's painfully generic. "look, another guy is evil just because! Oh, and he's really strong!" And it makes it that much more dumb as a character when you realize his main motivation was related to a baby crying next to him.

Him being a more sympathetic character makes him infinitely more interesting.

Broly's motivation wasn't Kakarot's crying. His motive as the Legendary destructive Super Saiyan was simply choas and he took it on with a smile.
Come on, the whole victimization skit is played out too. At least the evil chaos embracing character fits the role of legendary Super Saiyan.

[Grimlock]

I think I must be stupid because I still don't understand what the BR in 'Broly: BR' stands for.

BRoly.

[kidhero1000]

The classic Broly embraced being evil. While this Broly seems to be a victim. According to the spoilers but I take everyone of them with a grain of salt.

That's painfully generic. "look, another guy is evil just because! Oh, and he's really strong!" And it makes it that much more dumb as a character when you realize his main motivation was related to a baby crying next to him.

Him being a more sympathetic character makes him infinitely more interesting.

Broly's motivation wasn't Kakarot's crying. His motive as the Legendary destructive Super Saiyan was simply choas and he took it on with a smile.
Come on, the whole victimization skit is played out too. At least the evil chaos embracing character fits the role of legendary Super Saiyan.

Not really, but it sure as hell didn't stop him from being a one note villain whose shtick got played out quickly though. Hopefully this time around there may be something of substance, though I don't expect much.

[Tai Lung]

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

The classic Broly embraced being evil. While this Broly seems to be a victim. According to the spoilers but I take everyone of them with a grain of salt.

That's painfully generic. "look, another guy is evil just because! Oh, and he's really strong!" And it makes it that much more dumb as a character when you realize his main motivation was related to a baby crying next to him.

Him being a more sympathetic character makes him infinitely more interesting.

Broly's motivation wasn't Kakarot's crying. His motive as the Legendary destructive Super Saiyan was simply choas and he took it on with a smile.
Come on, the whole victimization skit is played out too. At least the evil chaos embracing character fits the role of legendary Super Saiyan.

all this falls apart when he loses control by the "crying" of goten, believing that it is kakarot there is no way to excuse that

[PFM18]

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

[Tai Lung]

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

Do you have something to say???

[GodVegetto91]

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

This ain’t gamefaqs dude. This is Kanzenshuu. And quoting someone without adding any commentary of your own is frowned upon here. Just thought i’d let you know.

[PFM18]

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

Do you have something to say???

Lol I'm sorry I goofed.

But no, Kefla and Broly are very clearly not close in power. Kefla is explicitly below GoD level, and Broly is explicitly there or higher. Not to mention the slew of other pieces of evidence that LSSJ Broly>>>Kefla.'

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

This ain’t gamefaqs dude. This is Kanzenshuu. And quoting someone without adding any commentary of your own is frowned upon here. Just thought i’d let you know.

Yeah obviously, I just messed up on accident. You aren't exactly giving any groundbreaking information.

[RecolorSaiyan]

everything seems to indicate that broly and kefla have a similar level

Do you have something to say???

Broly multiple times including in this last teaser has been stated as “strongest”. Movie compares him to Beerus

Kefla is not Beerus tier or close.

[mahakaishin1991]

So there's an image of Paragus floating around:

Wow, he looks pretty nice on this. Way better without the pink dress.

Base Gogeta looks so much better here than the leaked cellphone shot we got a couple of days ago

My thoughts exactly, I was against Gogeta on this movie, but I guess he might deliver better than UI Goku.

I dont mind his pink hakama thing he has going on, but I cant unsee this when I look at him

[Tai Lung]

Broly multiple times including in this last teaser has been stated as “strongest”. Movie compares him to Beerus

Kefla is not Beerus tier or close.

Lol I'm sorry I goofed.

But no, Kefla and Broly are very clearly not close in power. Kefla is explicitly below GoD level, and Broly is explicitly there or higher. Not to mention the slew of other pieces of evidence that LSSJ Broly>>>Kefla.'

What do I use? in feats and in facts ...
kefla defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
Broly defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
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you can see that Goku and Vegeta in SSB face Broly SSJ and also golden frieza.

besides there is no blueken, SSBE or UI to compare so ..

Gogeta SSB> Goku UI Omen> Broly LSSJ> = Kefla SSL2

[PFM18]

kefla defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
Broly defeated Goku SSJG in base ..

That's some pretty intense oversimplification there. Kefla was explicitly not GoD tier, and Broly explicitly possibly above that tier. It is really that simple. Also, the promotional material could be used to justify Broly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kefla

[Torturephile]

That's cool seeing a base Gogeta.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Broly multiple times including in this last teaser has been stated as “strongest”. Movie compares him to Beerus

Kefla is not Beerus tier or close.

Lol I'm sorry I goofed.

But no, Kefla and Broly are very clearly not close in power. Kefla is explicitly below GoD level, and Broly is explicitly there or higher. Not to mention the slew of other pieces of evidence that LSSJ Broly>>>Kefla.'

What do I use? in feats and in facts ...
kefla defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
Broly defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
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you can see that Goku and Vegeta in SSB face Broly SSJ and also golden frieza.

besides there is no blueken, SSBE or UI to compare so ..

Gogeta SSB> Goku UI Omen> Broly LSSJ> = Kefla SSL2

Kefla base defeated an extremely tired Goku SSG, and only Goku SSB (equally tired) was able to match the Kefla SSJ Berserker. She is not even close

And Broly did not defeat Goku SSG in base form, we know he was using another form, with yellow eyes with pupils and with larger muscles

[TheRed259]

Viz Media Europe is set to distribute a new Dragon Ball Z movie, the franchise’s 20th film

Viz Media Europe is set to distribute a new Dragon Ball Z movie, the franchise’s 20th film.

The film is based on a new story and character designs by Akira Toriyama and will feature the character Saiyan Broly, who appeared in Dragon Ball Z: Broly–The Legendary Super Saiyan.

Viz Media Europe has unveiled a global marketing campaign to go with the launch that will include activations with an unnamed distributor and Toei Animation Europe.

The film is set to be released in Japan on Dec. 14.

Finally the movie is confirmed to be released in France while new countries are being added to the list.

[GodVegetto91]

Do you have something to say???

Lol I'm sorry I goofed.

But no, Kefla and Broly are very clearly not close in power. Kefla is explicitly below GoD level, and Broly is explicitly there or higher. Not to mention the slew of other pieces of evidence that LSSJ Broly>>>Kefla.'

This ain’t gamefaqs dude. This is Kanzenshuu. And quoting someone without adding any commentary of your own is frowned upon here. Just thought i’d let you know.

Yeah obviously, I just messed up on accident. You aren't exactly giving any groundbreaking information.

Oh you messed up on accident? My bad than. Apologies..

[PFM18]

And Broly did not defeat Goku SSG in base form, we know he was using another form, with yellow eyes with pupils and with larger muscles

Yes, his "Ikari" form. He obtains yellow eyes and spiky hair in that state.

Spoiler:

Base Broly~SSJ Goku/Vegeta
Ikari Broly~SSB Goku/Vegeta>>>SSG Goku/Vegeta
SSJ Broly~SSJ Gogeta>>>>Full-power SSB(whether that be CSSB or SSBKK/SSBE depending on the continuity you're comparing to)
LSSJ Broly>>>SSJ Gogeta>>>>>Full-power SSB

So yeah, Broly completely leaves Kefla in the dust. she's probably only a couple times stronger than Goku's max output as SSB and for that matter it is arguable that he got stronger during ep 123 onward and surpassed her. On the other hand. Broly completely brutalizes him without even using his highest form.

Yeah obviously, I just messed up on accident. You aren't exactly giving any groundbreaking information.
Oh you messed up on accident? My bad than. Apologies..

Yeah I was in a hurry and I thought I had already typed my response, but really I formatted it and clicked submit without realizing it.

[RecolorSaiyan]

The goku that broly fought is WAY stronger than the one kefla fought and goku started the fight fresh not trying to recover. There is no comp between them.

[CTAkuma]

What do I use? in feats and in facts ...
kefla defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
Broly defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
-----
you can see that Goku and Vegeta in SSB face Broly SSJ and also golden frieza.

besides there is no blueken, SSBE or UI to compare so ..

Gogeta SSB> Goku UI Omen> Broly LSSJ> = Kefla SSL2

So you're saying that SSB Gogeta is just barely stronger than TOP UI omen? Vados quite clearly said that Fusion combines their fusees max power and then increases their strength by dozens, so by simple Logic and the fact that Goku held his own against SS Kefla in SSB, a fusion of both Goku and Vegeta post TOP would oneshot her in base.

Also characters get stronger throughout the tournament stated several times which you seem to ignore

[PFM18]

What do I use? in feats and in facts ...
kefla defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
Broly defeated Goku SSJG in base ..
-----
you can see that Goku and Vegeta in SSB face Broly SSJ and also golden frieza.

besides there is no blueken, SSBE or UI to compare so ..

Gogeta SSB> Goku UI Omen> Broly LSSJ> = Kefla SSL2

So you're saying that SSB Gogeta is just barely stronger than TOP UI omen? Vados quite clearly said that Fusion combines their fusees max power and then increases their strength by dozens, so by simple Logic and the fact that Goku held his own against SS Kefla in SSB, a fusion of both Goku and Vegeta post TOP would oneshot her in base.

Also characters get stronger throughout the tournament stated several times which you seem to ignore

One shot in Base? That is a HUGE stretch. You seem to think Goku was on par with SSJ Kefla when she was stated to rival the Genki Dama and ultimately defeated SSBKKx20.


It was never explicitly stated that they got stronger throughout the tournament. Certainly not "several times." Considering that there's exactly 0 statements about Goku/Vegeta having these enormous power increases, although it is possible, they aren't supported by statements.