Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

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Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

Post by Low Tone G » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:50 am

These people are all allies of deities, but their origin is very vague especialy of Mr. Popo, and Whis.

Who is Mr. Popo? Is he a Kaio?

Who is Kibito? Is he a Kaioshin, because in time when Majin Buu was created he was nowhere seen?

Who can be Whis? He shares a very great resemblence with Kaioshins as, he is highly humanoid and has hairstyle like Kaioshins do. How can he be stronger than the God of Destruction if he serves him?
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Post by Super Vegetto » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:10 am

Mister Popo
God's attendant

A mysterious being who has served as the attendant to the Earth's Gods since long, loo~oong ago, back before the time of the God who ultimately fused with Piccolo. He's a martial arts master, and at first Goku was absolutely no match for him, even having defeated Piccolo. The way God makes his creations is that first Popo creates a model, which God then blows life into. To get around, he uses a flying carpet.

Some kind of ancient genie...

Kibito
Kaioshin's attendant

An old-looking man who works as Kaioshin's attendant. Though a good person, it seems that at first he was disdainful of Gohan and the other humans of the lower world, and did not trust in Super Saiyan power. His battle power is considerably high, enough to give Gohan a difficult fight as long as he wasn't a Super Saiyan.

He works for Kaioshin, but he's not Kaioshin...


Can't find official statmens about Whis, but he is god of destruction attendant. He taught him martial arts and he oversees and trains Beerus.

And no, he's not Kaioshin...

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Re: Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

Post by Low Tone G » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:28 am

Super Vegetto wrote:Mister Popo
God's attendant

A mysterious being who has served as the attendant to the Earth's Gods since long, loo~oong ago, back before the time of the God who ultimately fused with Piccolo. He's a martial arts master, and at first Goku was absolutely no match for him, even having defeated Piccolo. The way God makes his creations is that first Popo creates a model, which God then blows life into. To get around, he uses a flying carpet.

Some kind of ancient genie...

Kibito
Kaioshin's attendant

An old-looking man who works as Kaioshin's attendant. Though a good person, it seems that at first he was disdainful of Gohan and the other humans of the lower world, and did not trust in Super Saiyan power. His battle power is considerably high, enough to give Gohan a difficult fight as long as he wasn't a Super Saiyan.

He works for Kaioshin, but he's not Kaioshin...


Can't find official statmens about Whis, but he is god of destruction attendant. He taught him martial arts and he oversees and trains Beerus.

And no, he's not Kaioshin...
But who is Kibito and Whis because the are very similar like the Kaioshins?
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Re: Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

Post by Herms » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:19 pm

Popo's supposed to be a being originally born in the afterlife, then dispatched to Earth to aid Earth God, according to Daizenshuu 7 and later guides. Karin's the same way.

Fans like to call Popo a "genie", but this isn't really based on anything apart from his appearance. It's probably no more accurate to call him a genie than it would be to label Chiaotzu a Hopping Ghost. Probably.

There's no official word on what species or anything Kibito or Whis are. But Popo and them are all supposed to be "attendants" to their respective gods. It's possible that they're Shinjin/"Core People", the race born from the fruit of the World Tree. Core People are chosen by lottery to take on the role of Kaio or Kaioshin, as Toriyama explains in the SEG: Character Guide, so perhaps some Core People are chosen to become these attendants?
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Post by sekzee » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:30 pm

Whis could be the God of Creation, and it so happens that the two understand their roles and are amicable.

I know that term is often used to describe the Kaioshins, but they seem more like Gods of Order/Guardians than anything else.

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Post by Low Tone G » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:32 pm

sekzee wrote:Whis is probably the God of Creation, and it so happens that the two understand their roles and are amicable.
The Kais and Supreme Kais are the Gods of Creation described by King Kai himself. But in the same time Whis might have something in commom with Kaioshins.

As seen in the extended version of the movie Whis can warp the reality, so he definitely has some skills like Kaioshins do, but in that same time his Godly Destructive Ki is just the same as Beerus'. I think he is a God of Creation who possess Godly Destructive Ki, in other words an almost omnipotent God in the world of Dragon Ball. I wouldn't be surprised if he could open a gate between the universes.
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Post by sekzee » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:37 pm

Yeah, hence the second line of my post.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:49 pm

Low Tone G wrote:As seen in the extended version of the movie Whis can warp the reality, so he definitely has some skills like Kaioshins do, but in that same time his Godly Destructive Ki is just the same as Beerus'. I think he is a God of Creation who possess Godly Destructive Ki, in other words an almost omnipotent God in the world of Dragon Ball.
Beerus just happens to be a god who destroys things. I'm pretty his ki being "destructive" isn't supposed to be a real thing. All the characters as just supposed to have ki (whether it be normal, unsensible like the robits or beyond the scope of comprehension like the gods) and it can just be used however the person wants/is capable of.
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Re: Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

Post by Low Tone G » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:57 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:As seen in the extended version of the movie Whis can warp the reality, so he definitely has some skills like Kaioshins do, but in that same time his Godly Destructive Ki is just the same as Beerus'. I think he is a God of Creation who possess Godly Destructive Ki, in other words an almost omnipotent God in the world of Dragon Ball.
Beerus just happens to be a god who destroys things. I'm pretty his ki being "destructive" isn't supposed to be a real thing. All the characters as just supposed to have ki (whether it be normal, unsensible like the robits or beyond the scope of comprehension like the gods) and it can just be used however the person wants/is capable of.
Yeah.... Beerus has spoken about himself like his power it can not be measured in Battle power, so he being a God possess an ability to destroy it's something like someone is capable to keep in mind very much telephone numbers, it's a skill and it's not detectable.

Kaioshins also possess an ability to create things and to teleport(like Kibito Kai), or to speak telepatically(Like Northern King Kai), and those skills can not be sensed, they just exist, some kind of magical abilty. So in that case the power of Beerus is something like a Godly magical skill to destroy.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:19 pm

Beerus talks about his power not being measurable in Battle Power because it's a different type of ki. Divine/Godly Ki. That's the only distinction made. Goku gains that same power as Super Saiyan God, but he is not affiliated with the Hakaishin and the ritual is created out of purity and righteousness. The form doesn't exist to destroy. You're right, those things you mention are different skills. BUT, they're just different ways to utilize the ki. Many characters (Babidi, Namekians, etc.) are shown to not be gods, and yet they can create things the same way gods like Kaioshin can. That doesn't mean those mortals have Godly "Creation" Ki or anything...
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Re: Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:20 pm

Low Tone G wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:As seen in the extended version of the movie Whis can warp the reality, so he definitely has some skills like Kaioshins do, but in that same time his Godly Destructive Ki is just the same as Beerus'. I think he is a God of Creation who possess Godly Destructive Ki, in other words an almost omnipotent God in the world of Dragon Ball.
Beerus just happens to be a god who destroys things. I'm pretty his ki being "destructive" isn't supposed to be a real thing. All the characters as just supposed to have ki (whether it be normal, unsensible like the robits or beyond the scope of comprehension like the gods) and it can just be used however the person wants/is capable of.
Yeah.... Beerus has spoken about himself like his power it can not be measured in Battle power, so he being a God possess an ability to destroy it's something like someone is capable to keep in mind very much telephone numbers, it's a skill and it's not detectable.

Kaioshins also possess an ability to create things and to teleport(like Kibito Kai), or to speak telepatically(Like Northern King Kai), and those skills can not be sensed, they just exist, some kind of magical abilty. So in that case the power of Beerus is something like a Godly magical skill to destroy.
Freeza destroyed planet Vegeta. That doesn't make him a God of Destruction. Anybody can destroy stuff. It's just Beerus' job; you're reading WAY to much into it.
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Re: Mysterious allies: Mr. Popo, Kibito and Whis

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:08 pm

Yeah, the godly ki just can't be measured by mortals. There is nothing more in it.
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