The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Battousai]

Piccolo, Trunks and Goten (All from DBS) vs Suppressed Perfect Cell (versus Goku)

Base Goku (DBS) vs Lord Slug

Piccolo, Trunks and Goten win with low/mid difficulty.

Base Goku stomps.

[Battousai]

Yamcha(saiyan saga) Vs Raditz

Yamcha wins with mid difficulty.

[Khin]

Piccolo, Trunks and Goten (All from DBS) vs Suppressed Perfect Cell (versus Goku)

-Trunks alone can beat this Cell,puting Goten and Piccolo is overkill.I have Goten and Trunks at this point at around MSSJ Kid Gohan level and Piccolo at Cell Jr. level.

[Battousai]

The most anticipated versus in DBS, so far.

Beeru's blast (right before he faked his sleep ) VS Piccolo, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Roshi, Yamcha, Kuririn, Chaozu, Tenshinhan. Would they be able to deflect it ? Or destroy it ?

I believe 18 didn't come foward when Piccolo shouts: "Those who can't fight, stay back!" so 18 is out.

[nickzambuto]

Funnily enough, if we go with the multipliers, a hypothetical Saiyans arc Super Saiyan Vegeta would have the exact same power level as a Ginyu fight Goku with Kaioken x10 (900,000)

So here's the scenario; through some clever tactics and teamwork, the Dragon Team manage to defeat and mortally wound Nappa. With his dying words Nappa apologizes to Vegeta for failing him and pledges loyalty to his prince, finishing himself off as a final act of atonement. Vegeta, distraught over his best friend's death (just roll with it) transforms into a Super Saiyan and kills the Dragon Team, but not before they rip off his tail. He then gets back into his Space Pod and travels to Namek to get the Dragon Balls. Goku arrives on the battlefield to find all of his friends dead; events proceed normally and Goku goes to Namek to get the Dragon Balls, he trains under 100x gravity and meets Vegeta on Namek (again, roll with it). They fight to the death, no interference.

TL;DR- Saiyans arc Super Saiyan Vegeta with no tail vs Namek arc Goku, during his fight with the Ginyu Force. Will the efficiency of the Super Saiyan form win out over the Kaioken's potential for higher levels at the cost of immense strain?

[Lord Beerus]

The most anticipated versus in DBS, so far.

Beeru's blast (right before he faked his sleep ) VS Piccolo, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Roshi, Yamcha, Kuririn, Chaozu, Tenshinhan. Would they be able to deflect it ? Or destroy it ?

I believe 18 didn't come foward when Piccolo shouts: "Those who can't fight, stay back!" so 18 is out.

Beerus' blast before he went to sleep was for intents and purposes going to destroy the planet, so nobody's gonna deflect that shit.

[LightBing]

Saiyans arc Super Saiyan Vegeta with no tail vs Namek arc Goku, during his fight with the Ginyu Force. Will the efficiency of the Super Saiyan form win out over the Kaioken's potential for higher levels at the cost of immense strain?

90%/10% - Goku would have to be in constant strain, just to keep up with Vegeta. He would be at a disadvantage in a straight up fight, carrying the weight of the Kaioken. While Vegeta arrogance may play a part, I think he would quickly adapt, plus he has knowledge that Goku can modify his power level. Goku only chance is to use a higher level Kaioken to cause massive damage. Problem is. Vegeta has insane durability, he would most likely survive with enough strength to finish off Goku.
Kaioken will always put it's user at a disadvantage, if one has to fight a opponent of the same level.

[Noah]

Since many people says that Super Android 13 is somewhat weaker than 16 but stronger than 17 and 18, how it would be in these battles:

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami)

Super Android 13 x Android 17 and 18

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami), Android 17 and 18

[Lord Beerus]

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami)

Super Android 13 x Android 17 and 18

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami), Android 17 and 18

Super #13 loses all of those battles horribly.

[RandomGuy96]

Since many people says that Super Android 13 is somewhat weaker than 16 but stronger than 17 and 18, how it would be in these battles:

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami)

Super Android 13 x Android 17 and 18

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami), Android 17 and 18

He wrecks them all. Kamiccolo couldn't even budge him in that movie.

[Noah]

Super #13 loses all of those battles horribly.

He wrecks them all. Kamiccolo couldn't even budge him in that movie.

Can you guys get in a consensus?

It's strange cause Movie 6 implies that Piccolo was fused with Kami, but in Movie 7 he looks weaker than the SSJ trio, f***ing TOEI

[Sandubadear]

Since many people says that Super Android 13 is somewhat weaker than 16 but stronger than 17 and 18, how it would be in these battles:

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami)

Super Android 13 x Android 17 and 18

Super Android 13 x Piccolo (Post-Kami), Android 17 and 18

I have Super 13 as stronger than all of them, but he might lose against all of them at once.

In my headcanon Super 13 movie happens in an universe where Androids 17 and 18 attacked but Cell never time travelled to absorb them, so everyone is in "Android saga" strength.

[Captain Space]

I would put Super 13 above Kamiccolo/17/18, since he was able to completely no-sell an android arc SSJ without even flinching and such, whereas it took 18 a while to wear one down. 16 could probably do the same though, so from there on up it's hard to say. Hmm, he can't have been too far above 17, since Goku was able to beat him with added power from a Genkidama that probably was at most roughly equivalent to the one that hit Freeza.

So, something like:

16/Imperfect Cell (final appearance) >>> Super 13 > Kamiccolo/17 > 18 > SSJ Goku/Vegeta

It's strange cause Movie 6 implies that Piccolo was fused with Kami, but in Movie 7 he looks weaker than the SSJ trio, f***ing TOEI

Yeah, I have some weird headcanon that actually has movie 6 taking place after movie 7 in their weird alternate timeline.

In my headcanon Super 13 movie happens in an universe where Androids 17 and 18 attacked but Cell never time travelled to absorb them, so everyone is in "Android saga" strength.

The way I interpret it is, you know that 'alternate past' that the alternate F. Trunks that Cell killed visited? My movie-theory has movie 7 taking place in that past after 17 and 18 (and maybe 16) have been beaten, maybe shut down with a remote or something; Trunks is about to return to the future, 13-15 attack, the movie happens. Then Trunks returns to the future (to be killed by Cell), the earth is at peace with everyone at android arc levels but no Trunks, movie 6 happens.

[Sandubadear]

In my headcanon Super 13 movie happens in an universe where Androids 17 and 18 attacked but Cell never time travelled to absorb them, so everyone is in "Android saga" strength.

The way I interpret it is, you know that 'alternate past' that the alternate F. Trunks that Cell killed visited? My movie-theory has movie 7 taking place in that past after 17 and 18 (and maybe 16) have been beaten, maybe shut down with a remote or something; Trunks is about to return to the future, 13-15 attack, the movie happens. Then Trunks returns to the future (to be killed by Cell), the earth is at peace with everyone at android arc levels but no Trunks, movie 6 happens.

Yep, I think almost the same.

[Noah]

I would put Super 13 above Kamiccolo/17/18, since he was able to completely no-sell an android arc SSJ without even flinching and such, whereas it took 18 a while to wear one down. 16 could probably do the same though, so from there on up it's hard to say. Hmm, he can't have been too far above 17, since Goku was able to beat him with added power from a Genkidama that probably was at most roughly equivalent to the one that hit Freeza.

So, something like:

16/Imperfect Cell (final appearance) >>> Super 13 > Kamiccolo/17 > 18 > SSJ Goku/Vegeta

Just like my thoughts, but would you say that Super 13 would put a good fight against 16 or Imp. Cell even being weaker?

[DBZAOTA482]

East Kaioshin vs. Initial Perfect Cell

[nickzambuto]

East Kaioshin vs. Initial Perfect Cell

For whatever reason I don't have Kaioshin anywhere near as weak as some people place him. Just because he was cautious with Babidi and wary of Dabura does not automatically imply he had less power than them. In my mind, Kaioshin by default should be capable of going rounds with the demon king in a knock-down drag-out brawl, either coming out slightly superior or slightly inferior. Being in a separate dimension from Piccolo and lasting longer against Boo than Gohan did are enough indicators of that for me. Kaioshin wrecks this, Cell would need to use the full extent of his Perfect power in order to stand toe-to-toe with the god of creation.

[nickzambuto]

Is Goku's mind-training in the Super manga accurate? Could he really make such short work of Perfect Cell now at just SSJ1?

Pre-God SSJ1 Goku vs Perfect Cell.

[Doctor.]

The most anticipated versus in DBS, so far.

Beeru's blast (right before he faked his sleep ) VS Piccolo, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Roshi, Yamcha, Kuririn, Chaozu, Tenshinhan. Would they be able to deflect it ? Or destroy it ?

I believe 18 didn't come foward when Piccolo shouts: "Those who can't fight, stay back!" so 18 is out.

The champ, Mr. Satan, stepped up. He would obviously win due to his all-powerful Super Satan transformation.

East Kaioshin vs. Initial Perfect Cell

Kaioshin slaughters Cell. Perfect Cell would be a better match.

Pre-God SSJ1 Goku vs Perfect Cell.

I think he could do quick work of Perfect Cell by the time the Boo arc rolled around, so yea, four years later he'd be able to easily defeat Cell.

[Lord Beerus]

Is Goku's mind-training in the Super manga accurate? Could he really make such short work of Perfect Cell now at just SSJ1?

Pre-God SSJ1 Goku vs Perfect Cell.

I reckon Goku would win because by this time he should have surpassed Cell Games SSJ Gohan as by the time of Majin Boo arc he had already surpassed SSJ2 Cell Games Gohan.