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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:21 am

Son Edo wrote:Red Ribbon Army is the most underrated arc.
Like a number of things, I've come around to enjoying this more over the years. I still think Goku's enemies aren't as big of a challenge as I'd prefer, but it's still an enjoyable story.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ree » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:58 am

I think Sacred Dragon is a better name than Eternal Dragon.
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Post by ABED » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:01 pm

I wish they had just gone with Dragon God. I don't think parents would've been nearly as upset as Saban seems to think. If young kids can learn about the Greek gods, I don't see why parents (even strict Christian ones) would be up in arms over equally as ficticious gods.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:19 pm

ABED wrote:I wish they had just gone with Dragon God. I don't think parents would've been nearly as upset as Saban seems to think. If young kids can learn about the Greek gods, I don't see why parents (even strict Christian ones) would be up in arms over equally as ficticious gods.
While in general you're no doubt right, there would definitely be at least a small and vocal group somewhere that would have been 'offended' by it. Heck, there were parents groups against TMNT when it first started to get big back in the day, even going so far as citing it's use of 'ninjutsu' as clearly being satanic. And even with the Greek gods, I can remember a classmate of mine in fifth grade having to 'opt out' at her parent's request when we started to cover Greek mythology as well as doing a play of sorts about it. This same girl later had to opt out when the teacher read the first Harry Potter book to us (something that I'm sure the teacher didn't get to repeat doing the next year either).

So yeah, never underestimate the ability of the offended to be offended by anything and everything. :P
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:26 pm

So yeah, never underestimate the ability of the offended to be offended by anything and everything
I would never dream of that after this year where people got offended by EVERYTHING. Good lord, how long has the confederate flag been around and now there's a huge fuss over it?

I know there will always be a small vocal minority who get up in arms over things, but the operative word there is "small" not "vocal".
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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:47 pm

ABED wrote:
So yeah, never underestimate the ability of the offended to be offended by anything and everything
I would never dream of that after this year where people got offended by EVERYTHING. Good lord, how long has the confederate flag been around and now there's a huge fuss over it?

I know there will always be a small vocal minority who get up in arms over things, but the operative word there is "small" not "vocal".
Depends on whether you mean how long since it was used by the army of northern virginia, or you mean how long racist assholes used it as a symbol

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Post by ABED » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:36 pm

jcogginsa wrote:
ABED wrote:
So yeah, never underestimate the ability of the offended to be offended by anything and everything
I would never dream of that after this year where people got offended by EVERYTHING. Good lord, how long has the confederate flag been around and now there's a huge fuss over it?

I know there will always be a small vocal minority who get up in arms over things, but the operative word there is "small" not "vocal".
Depends on whether you mean how long since it was used by the army of northern virginia, or you mean how long racist assholes used it as a symbol
Doesn't matter, it's racist either way, the point is that it's not anything new, but the level of offense was ludicrous, to the point that stores stopped selling the General Lee from the Dukes of Hazard.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by OkamiTakahashi » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:23 pm

My unpopular opinion?

I actually really like GT, flaws and all. They really don't bother me as much as others let it bother them; I don't see them as being too major personally. Just some personality flaws, fluctuating power levels, etc. Easy things to fix imo to be honest. Still way more consistent than Toriyama and his slightly annoying habit of re-retconning his own work. Ironic isn't it? Toriyama gets praised for retconning and being inconsistent while Toei gets flames for trying their best to be consistent without retconning anything as non-canon.

Even so, I do wish Toei would speak up regarding how canon is organized. For so long they've suggested it's all linear, but now with Dragon Ball Super and its contradictions to GT, I just dunno anymore. How can a character be unfused in a prequel to the sequel but then in the sequel be still fused as if they never did it? I really don't like having to organize timelines into multiple branches, splits or parallels, despite being in two other fandoms where they're more or less justified. If it is all linear, we need a reason as to why SSJ God makes no appearances in GT, and why Kibitoshin is still one when now Super has him separated.

I also don't understand why, if GT gets so much hate, fan-made sequels like the varyious versions of AF, Multiverse or Absalon, are praised among fans. I mean, if it has GT content in it and you hated GT, wouldn't hate the fan sequel for including GT canon? It just seems really ass-backwards and hypocritical to me.

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Post by Ree » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:41 pm

The DB Super opening is getting a lot of crap but i honestly like it.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:06 pm

Ree wrote:The DB Super opening is getting a lot of crap but i honestly like it.
It does...? The only part I don't like about it is how it portrays Chi-Chi.

Aside from that, there's nothing really to hate about it.
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Post by Relenanator » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:59 am

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:41 am

ABED wrote:
Son Edo wrote:Red Ribbon Army is the most underrated arc.
Like a number of things, I've come around to enjoying this more over the years. I still think Goku's enemies aren't as big of a challenge as I'd prefer, but it's still an enjoyable story.
Taopaipai was arguably his most challenging enemy up to that point.
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Post by rereboy » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:14 am

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ABED wrote:
Son Edo wrote:Red Ribbon Army is the most underrated arc.
Like a number of things, I've come around to enjoying this more over the years. I still think Goku's enemies aren't as big of a challenge as I'd prefer, but it's still an enjoyable story.
Taopaipai was arguably his most challenging enemy up to that point.
Arguably? I think it was most definitely. Goku got wrecked by him.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Son Edo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:54 am

I'll add another one, Super Saiyan 2 is overrated. everyone says it's their favourite Super Saiyan transformation but It's just added sparks and sharper bangs. Hell, it's hard to tell the difference between the two forms later in the series. Either the animators were lazy or they just didn't care.

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Son Edo wrote:I'll add another one, Super Saiyan 2 is overrated. everyone says it's their favourite Super Saiyan transformation but It's just added sparks and sharper bangs. Hell, it's hard to tell the difference between the two forms later in the series. Either the animators were lazy or they just didn't care.
I agree. If Gohan's transformation sequence wasn't so great, it'd definitely be the worst transformation in the series in my opinion. Hell, even with his transformation, it still probably is.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:11 am

The BoG and RF arcs of Dragon Ball Super are filler, in every sense of the word, and should be treated in the same way we treat all other filler.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:40 am

^I came here to say the opposite. I don't think that's unpopular, considering Its easier to find hate than love about Super.

Personally, I'm enjoying Super. I think its great.
Super BOG arc > BOG Movie. I expect the ROF arc to be improved too.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:42 am

Son Edo wrote:I'll add another one, Super Saiyan 2 is overrated. everyone says it's their favourite Super Saiyan transformation but It's just added sparks and sharper bangs. Hell, it's hard to tell the difference between the two forms later in the series. Either the animators were lazy or they just didn't care.
Doctor. wrote: I agree. If Gohan's transformation sequence wasn't so great, it'd definitely be the worst transformation in the series in my opinion. Hell, even with his transformation, it still probably is.
Moreover, everyone says that Super Saiyan God and SSGSS were lazy and lame but for some reason they forget that SS2 is barely any different from its previous form. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:44 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:^I came here to say the opposite. I don't think that's unpopular, considering Its easier to find hate than love about Super.

Personally, I'm enjoying Super. I think its great.
Super BOG arc > BOG Movie. I expect the ROF arc to be improved too.
I personally BOG Movie > Super BOG, though i have no doubt that Super ROF >>>>> ROG Movie will happen.
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