The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Noah]

Vegeta SSJ ( cell games ) Vs Piccolo ( cell games ). Who wins? The Saiyan or the Namekian ?

I think it is pretty much implied that Vegeta is more powerful than Piccolo in the Cell Games, so he wins

[Sandubadear]

Master Roshi's Bankoku Bikkuri Sho vs. Static Shock vs. that woman on Heroes who fires electricity

[DanielSSJ]

Goku hypothetical suicide attack vs Perfect Cell - In the molds of Vegeta sacrifice, so no danger of destroying the planet.

Kami (23rd TB) vs Kuririn, Tenshinhan and Yamcha (23rd TB)

Piccolo + Tenshinhan Potara with kaioken x20(Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo

Goku's suicide attack would fail for the same reason that it failed for Vegeta, regeneration. We'd just get Super Perfect Cell a bit sooner.

Even if the humans could overpower him, Kami has his "quiet as the sky, fast as lightning" fighting style. It would look like Goku vs Mr Popo, except with three victims.

The way I view Potara is that the greater the power difference between the two fusees is, the less the fusion actually increases your strength. Goku and Vegeta, who were almost equals, got a massive boost. Kibito and Kaioshin were much farther apart, so their boost wasn't as impressive. When Old Kaioshin fused with that witch, his power actually went down! A Kaioken x20 might give Picshinhan (or Tenshincolo) enough power to surpass Kid Boo, but with Boo's regeneration and Kaioken's weaknesses, Boo would take rather easily.

[Battousai]

Kuririn vs Yamcha vs Vegeta. Who would be the first to become a millionaire? (Boo Arc, so that Vegeta has some knowledge of Earth's society)

Rules: No crime, no Tenkaichi Budokai. They all start their quest at Master Roshi island. They have nothing and can't be helped by anyone they know.

Yamcha, cause' he's a baseball star player and has the looks to be able to sell his image for bilions of zenis, much like IRL sport players Beckham or Ronaldo.

[Battousai]

New battles:

Timeline ( DBS )

Chaozu vs Jaco the Gallatic Patrolman
Yamcha vs Guldo and Ginyu
Tenshinhan vs Raditz, Nappa, Dodoria, Cui, Zarbon and Reecome
Gohan vs Vegeta
Kame-sennin vs Tsuru-sennin and Tao
Piccolo vs 17 & 18

[Captain Space]

A Kaioken x20 might give Picshinhan (or Tenshincolo) enough power to surpass Kid Boo, but with Boo's regeneration and Kaioken's weaknesses, Boo would take rather easily.

Yeah, Kaioken is about the worst way to get strong enough to fight Buu (next to SSJ3).

[Darkron2151]

Here's a few:

• Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Games)
  
  Super Saiyan Trunks and Goten (Pre ROSAT) vs. 2 Cell Jr.
  
  Super Saiyan Trunks and Goten (Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Gohan (Cell Games)

[nickzambuto]

Because it provides its wielder with a thousand different ways to defeat a conventional fighter, which Beers is. When B eerus can be shown to resist time control or reality manipulation or having his soul ripped out or being teleported into another universe or matter manipulation or essentially any other power Odin wants. Not to mention that Odin has demonstrated the exact same feat that B eerus did, except on a multiversal level. What's B eerus gonna do? Punch him? Odin's wrestled.with Galactic.

Odin doesn't use any of those powers in battle though. He did not wrestle with Galactus, that is very out of context. Odin anticipated Galactus' arrival early on and had loads of prep time where he crafted armors, then he put all of his strength into one headbutt that knocked both him and Galactus out simultaneously, except Galactus eventually woke up first. And the headbutt was kind of a sucker punch too, Galactus didn't even get the chance to fight back. That is actually a prime example of the way Odin fights, which isn't very different from his son, or from Dragon Ball characters for that matter. If Odin's time control was so great, why didn't he use it against Galactus?

Also what are you referring to when you say Odin is multiversal? To my understanding it's still under debate on whether he's legitimately galactic level, his only showings in that regard are a narrator statement from like 30 years ago, and his evil counterpart doing something to a galaxy, neither of which is very solid.

Granted the Thor mythos is not my area of expertise. When it comes to Marvel I usually stick with the street level guys mostly, but I have seen many debates on Comic Vine and this is what I've learned to be the general consensus. I had thought for sure Beerus could beat Odin now, and even go rounds with Galactus now that he's confirmed universal.

And furthermore, now that I think about it, if we're bringing Odin's time and matter manipulation abilities into this, why can't Beerus make use of his own hax? Imprison Odin in a sword or paralyze his body with a glare, things like that. Overall I do think Beerus can beat Odin, and I don't think you're giving Dragon Ball enough credit compared to Marvel.

[Lord Beerus]

New battles:

Timeline ( DBS )

Chaozu vs Jaco the Gallatic Patrolman
Yamcha vs Guldo and Ginyu
Tenshinhan vs Raditz, Nappa, Dodoria, Cui, Zarbon and Reecome
Gohan vs Vegeta
Kame-sennin vs Tsuru-sennin and Tao
Piccolo vs 17 & 18

- Chaozu
- Yamcha slaughters
- Tien one shots everyone
- Gohan
- Kami
- Piccolo stomps the Android duo

Here's a few:

• Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Games)
  
  Super Saiyan Trunks and Goten (Pre ROSAT) vs. 2 Cell Jr.
  
  Super Saiyan Trunks and Goten (Post ROSAT) vs. Super Saiyan Gohan (Cell Games)

- Kid Trunks gives Goku a real ass kicking
- The Cell Jrs. get crushed
- Gohan gets overwhelmed very quickly and gets defeated

[Noah]

New match:

SSJ2 Goku x Tullece (FPSSJ Tier after having eaten all the fruits of The Tree Of Might)


Battle Conditions: This is battle is set in the Dying Planet Namek, Goku has only 2 minutes to defeat Tullece and scape with a Saiyan Pod that is 5000m away from the battlefield, he can't use Instant Transmission. Can he make it?

[Lord Beerus]

New match:

SSJ2 Goku x Tullece (FPSSJ Tier after after having eaten all the fruits of The Tree Of Might)


Battle Conditions: This is battle is set in the Dying Planet Namek, Goku has only 2 minutes to defeat Tullece and scape with a Saiyan Pod that is 5000m away from the battlefield, he can't use Instant Transmission. Can he make it?

Goku one shots Turles and escapes Namek

[ZombieVito]

New battles:

Timeline ( DBS )

Chaozu vs Jaco the Gallatic Patrolman
Yamcha vs Guldo and Ginyu
Tenshinhan vs Raditz, Nappa, Dodoria, Cui, Zarbon and Reecome
Gohan vs Vegeta
Kame-sennin vs Tsuru-sennin and Tao
Piccolo vs 17 & 18

Chaoz one shots.
Yamcha is stronger than Ginyu but he is incompetent enough to lose thanks to Guldo's abilities.
Tenshinhan murders everyone with his tongue.
Gohan powers up to his Ultimate form and one shots Vegeta.
Is that Cyborg Tao? If so Tao beats Roshi up. If not then Roshi powers up to his Buff form and wrecks.
17 and 18 die the same way their future counterparts did against Future Trunks.

[nickzambuto]

In the anime, Tien made huge gains on King Kai's planet in a very short time, going from sub-Nappa level to capable of battling and defeating two Ginyu Force members simultaneously. By the end of the Namek arc Vegeta was obviously the stronger of the two thanks to his numerous Zenkais, but then Tien spent an additional year or so on King Kai's planet training even further. And the Bojack movie proved that he never lost pace with the base Saiyans, as he was able to force Trunks into Super Saiyan during their fight.

So my question is, in the anime/Toei canon, if tensions between Vegeta and Tien reached a boiling point right before Mecha-Freeza arrived on Earth, who would win between them? Also a bit of reasoning beyond just listing their name would be appreciated.

[DBZAOTA482]

Dragon Ball vs. Street Fighter

Fighters before the insane power inflation of DBZ against Street Fighter:

Goku (23rd Budokai) vs. Ryu
Piccolo (23rd Budokai) vs. Gouki (Akuma)
Tien (23rd Budokai) vs. Guy
Kami (23rd Budokai) vs. Vega (M. Bison)
Krillin (23rd Budokai) vs. Zangief
Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Ken
Cyborg Tao vs. Balrog (Vega)
Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Chun-Li
Nam vs. Dhalism
Pamput vs. M. Bison
Mr. Satan vs. Dan
Videl vs. Sakura

DO IT....!!

[Son Edo]

Here's a what if one.

Evil Boo(Champa and Lady Whis absorbed) Vs Beerus and Whis.

[nickzambuto]

Dragon Ball vs. Street Fighter

Fighters before the insane power inflation of DBZ against Street Fighter:

Goku (23rd Budokai) vs. Ryu
Piccolo (23rd Budokai) vs. Gouki (Akuma)
Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) vs. Guy
Kami (23rd Budokai) vs. Vega (M. Bison)
Krillin (23rd Budokai) vs. Zangief
Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Ken
Cyborg Tao vs. Balrog (Vega)
Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Chun-Li
Nam vs. Dhalism
Pamput vs. M. Bison
Mr. Satan vs. Dan
Videl vs. Sakura

DO IT....!!

Every Dragon Ball character stomps until Nam vs Dhalism. At that point they get a little more debatable. But most of the time Street Fighter characters are only a little bit superhuman.

[Captain Space]

In the anime, Tenshinhan made huge gains on King Kai's planet in a very short time, going from sub-Nappa level to capable of battling and defeating two Ginyu Force members simultaneously. By the end of the Namek arc Vegeta was obviously the stronger of the two thanks to his numerous Zenkais, but then Tenshinhan spent an additional year or so on King Kai's planet training even further. And the Bojack movie proved that he never lost pace with the base Saiyans, as he was able to force Trunks into Super Saiyan during their fight.

So my question is, in the anime/Toei canon, if tensions between Vegeta and Tenshinhan reached a boiling point right before Mecha-Freeza arrived on Earth, who would win between them? Also a bit of reasoning beyond just listing their name would be appreciated.

When Goku returns to Earth, his two guesses for who beat Freeza are Vegeta and Piccolo, and I'm pretty sure this is consistent in all versions, or at least between the manga and the anime. This would imply that whatever version of events and weird trains of Toei logic you use, Vegeta would still win this one.

Here's a what if one.

Evil Boo(Champa and Lady Whis absorbed) Vs Beerus and Whis.

Literally no way of knowing yet, this is impossible to answer until we see them in action.

[Hellspawn28]

Kid Goku (Dragon Ball Minus) vs. Xenomorph Queen from Aliens

Who wins this one? If it's too one sided then make it the queen from the first AVP movie.

[nickzambuto]

In the anime, Tenshinhan made huge gains on King Kai's planet in a very short time, going from sub-Nappa level to capable of battling and defeating two Ginyu Force members simultaneously. By the end of the Namek arc Vegeta was obviously the stronger of the two thanks to his numerous Zenkais, but then Tenshinhan spent an additional year or so on King Kai's planet training even further. And the Bojack movie proved that he never lost pace with the base Saiyans, as he was able to force Trunks into Super Saiyan during their fight.

So my question is, in the anime/Toei canon, if tensions between Vegeta and Tenshinhan reached a boiling point right before Mecha-Freeza arrived on Earth, who would win between them? Also a bit of reasoning beyond just listing their name would be appreciated.

When Goku returns to Earth, his two guesses for who beat Freeza are Vegeta and Piccolo, and I'm pretty sure this is consistent in all versions, or at least between the manga and the anime. This would imply that whatever version of events and weird trains of Toei logic you use, Vegeta would still win this one.

But keep in mind the last time Goku saw Tenshinhan in action was at the 23ed Budokai. He was not aware of Tenshinhan's immense gains at King Kai's planet, nor of the fact that Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu beat the Ginyu Force. Nobody was powered up at the time so Goku couldn't have been sensing them, he just guessed that it must have been Vegeta or Piccolo.

[Lord Beerus]

Kid Goku (Dragon Ball Minus) vs. Xenomorph Queen from Aliens

Who wins this one? If it's too one sided then make it the queen from the first AVP movie.

Goku eats the Xenomorph for breakfast.