Freeza with the good guys...horrible and awesome at the same timefadeddreams5 wrote:If Freeza is not killed in the Super arc (doubtful), he can participate in the tournament. =D

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Freeza with the good guys...horrible and awesome at the same timefadeddreams5 wrote:If Freeza is not killed in the Super arc (doubtful), he can participate in the tournament. =D
That's an alternate timeline. Not a completely different universeFuriusMarius wrote:What if..... universe 6 is the universe of Future Trunks(killed by Cell) and for that all earth is almost destroyed.
Vados was stronger than Whis. It's unknown how they stack up now.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok am I understanding this correctly? Vados is stronger then Whis but Champa is weaker then Beerus right?
Yea but it hard to tell what she means exactly however the idea may be backed up by the fact that Champa doesn't just outright fight Beerus for earth. However Champa's reaction may just be because he's constitutes about his weight and we saw what happened when Goku and Beerus fought so maybe he doesn't want to fight Beerus because they would destroy the universe in the process and earth with it.dbgtFO wrote:Vados was stronger than Whis. It's unknown how they stack up now.Lord Freeza wrote:Ok am I understanding this correctly? Vados is stronger then Whis but Champa is weaker then Beerus right?
Yeah, Champa is weaker than Beerus, or at least that's how I interpreted Vados' mockery of Champa's physique compared to Beerus.
It's probably be something cliche like rule all the universes or something stupid like get Champa to lose weight.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok I'm gonna ask the question that everybody's thinking, what has this got to do with the Super Dragon Balls?
what are Champa and Vados plotting?
The "God Tournament" might be first part of the arc and "Super DragonBall" related stuffs might be second part of the arc.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok I'm gonna ask the question that everybody's thinking, what has this got to do with the Super Dragon Balls?
what are Champa and Vados plotting?
I doubt its rule the universe, being a God of Destruction he practically does already, Multiverse maybe? Him pulling a Commander Red would be funny though.Zombie wrote:It's probably be something cliche like rule all the universes or something stupid like get Champa to lose weight.Lord Freeza wrote:Ok I'm gonna ask the question that everybody's thinking, what has this got to do with the Super Dragon Balls?
what are Champa and Vados plotting?
Maybe Champa wants to use them to move the universe 7 Earth to universe 6 so he can have all the food to himself.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok I'm gonna ask the question that everybody's thinking, what has this got to do with the Super Dragon Balls?
what are Champa and Vados plotting?
No way its that, since Shampa didn't even know about neither of the Earths existence in both Universes until Beerus mentioned it.UpFromTheSkies wrote:Maybe Champa wants to use them to move the universe 7 Earth to universe 6 so he can have all the food to himself.Lord Freeza wrote:Ok I'm gonna ask the question that everybody's thinking, what has this got to do with the Super Dragon Balls?
what are Champa and Vados plotting?
I took it the opposite, since Beerus is so scrawny. Based just on physique, shouldn't a bulky guy have the upper hand in a fight against a wire-thin guy?dbgtFO wrote:Yeah, Champa is weaker than Beerus, or at least that's how I interpreted Vados' mockery of Champa's physique compared to Beerus.
But why would Champa scream at Vados if she was implying he was stronger? I think it's implied that Beerus is the stronger one, especially with how Champa later backed out of a fight with him (and Beerus laughed at the idea) and proposed a tournament instead.Herms wrote:I took it the opposite, since Beerus is so scrawny. Based just on physique, shouldn't a bulky guy have the upper hand in a fight against a wire-thin guy?dbgtFO wrote:Yeah, Champa is weaker than Beerus, or at least that's how I interpreted Vados' mockery of Champa's physique compared to Beerus.
Of course, either way there's no reason to assume that everything Vados says is accurate. She could be biased.
Because she wasn't just implying he was stronger. She was calling him fat.Doctor. wrote:But why would Champa scream at Vados if she was implying he was stronger? I think it's implied that Beerus is the stronger one, especially with how Champa later backed out of a fight with him (and Beerus laughed at the idea) and proposed a tournament instead.Herms wrote:I took it the opposite, since Beerus is so scrawny. Based just on physique, shouldn't a bulky guy have the upper hand in a fight against a wire-thin guy?dbgtFO wrote:Yeah, Champa is weaker than Beerus, or at least that's how I interpreted Vados' mockery of Champa's physique compared to Beerus.
Of course, either way there's no reason to assume that everything Vados says is accurate. She could be biased.
I know that. Herms was arguing that Vados did imply he was stronger than Beerus, and I contested the idea.FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Because she wasn't just implying he was stronger. She was calling him fat.
Going by the manga, Shampa and Vados already have atleast 2 Super Dragon Balls, and if they are gathering them is because they have already a wish in mind, unless it has to do with food, I don't think they would give their original wish for whatever Goku or anyone suggest.raulvalente wrote:I liked one theory I read on this forum yesterday:
"Beerus' team wins the Tournament but Goku, being the GOAT person as he is, offers himself to search the Dragon Balls to wish that Champa's Earth go back to what it was before the War. Vados says this wish is too powerful to be made by the regular Dragon Balls. They mention the existence of the Super Dragon Balls and Goku + Vegeta go find them."
What do you think?
But Champa isn't really "bulky" in terms of muscle. He has a dad/beer belly and a pudgy face, but his arms are basically the same size as Beerus. Couple that with Champa apparently needing to sneak around under Beerus' radar, Vados' apparent mockery of his physique & Champa's reaction, as well as Champa suggesting that people from their universes fight instead of the two Hakaishin...Herms wrote:I took it the opposite, since Beerus is so scrawny. Based just on physique, shouldn't a bulky guy have the upper hand in a fight against a wire-thin guy?dbgtFO wrote:Yeah, Champa is weaker than Beerus, or at least that's how I interpreted Vados' mockery of Champa's physique compared to Beerus.
Of course, either way there's no reason to assume that everything Vados says is accurate. She could be biased.