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Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by samuraix123 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:41 pm

Hey guys! Long time no see! :P I was just curious as I've read a lot of hate on Gohan here and there because of what he has turned into now. I personally don't feel like he is being given the back burner treatment. I actually think it's funny at how weak he has become compared to the past and I'm not bragging on myself but I remember when I was younger I used to work out like crazy and be in very good shape but then as I got older I just stopped caring and didn't workout at all and now I'm trying to get back into it again and I feel that's pretty much Gohan's problem. He's just lost that eye of the tiger he used to have and I think eventually he'll get it back in the series....maybe?
Are you upset that Gohan isn't like his teenage self and do you think he'll make a comeback one day?
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:50 pm

Um I think most people who "hate" Gohan are merely joking right? Least I think so. Most of the comments I make joke about how much he's so shit when he's not. I make tons of jokes because of how he's treated recently. I like the guy, but like Yamcha he's become such an easy target for jokes. Yeah some people do legitimately hate Gohan, but I'm pretty sure most of the hate comments are jokes and not legitimate hate.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:01 pm

I hate Gohan. Or specifically, what they turned/developed this character into.

I genuinely can't stand seeing him or that Videl impostor on-screen. Sometimes, I close my eyes in hopes of making them go away. But when I open, I become petrified as I stare into Videl 2.0's lifeless face.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by samuraix123 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:05 pm

I guess I shouldn't have used the word ''Hate'' I guess I was meaning they just generally don't like him anymore.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by Son Edo » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:09 pm

I don't think anyone hates him. They hate how he's handled lately in the movies and new show.

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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by Cipher » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:24 pm

I don't hate Gohan, or mind that he's taken a backseat in terms of fighting, but I am disappointed with how boring he and Videl have become in Super. They were some of the most charismatic characters in the series during the Boo arc, and even managed to get a few nice moments in GT. Really hoping we get some martial-arts-superhero antics from them again at some point.

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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:27 pm

I'm not really a fan of Gohan but even I think what they have done to him is wrong. I ain't asking for him to take Goku's place nor am I asking for him to become "badass" Gohan from the Cell games. I just want a character that's not a unfunny human punching bag.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by LightBing » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:35 pm

I guess you're getting that impression because of the constant and exhausting jokes, people feel the need to repeat whenever they have a chance. It's just the punching bag reflex. I don't think they really hate him.

Ever since the end of the Cell Games the character was shown to never train, it isn't any different now. He was forced his whole life to fight - we know he wants to be a scholar - or some aliens/androids would come and destroy everything. The recent portrays are just exaggerated by the fact the villains (Beerus and Freeza) are so much stronger, that they can end him in a single shot.

Of course dressing him up as a stereotypical book worm doesn't help, I agree that is just overkill.

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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:37 pm

I abhor the shitty writing of Gohan during the Artificial Humans arc and the later half of the Majin Buu arc. Gohan since then has finally been written consistently and inoffensively, which is simply a natural side effect of no longer having to be an important character.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by precita » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:42 pm

People are just upset that Gohan became successful in life with a cute wife and child and is an intelligent scholar, rather than some badass warrior who wants to fight all the time and destroy all bad guys in sight.

Gohan's type of life is what anyone would want in real life. He's married to a girl whose father is rich, he has a good home life, he's intelligent, and he's a caring father and husband. But since this is a show about fighting rather than a life sim, people are upset.

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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:49 pm

They hate current Gohan because most of them are obsseced with his badass DeeBeeZee portray in the Cell, they are so blindly obssed with that character that they forget that at its core Gohan is not that type of character and never was.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:00 pm

I don't hate Gohan, I just hate how he's presented (at least in Super)... It's cool he actually made something of himself but they make him look like this Yamcha-tier loser. I mean, even the latest episode had him failing at being a caregiver for Videl.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by EXBadguy » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:28 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:They hate current Gohan because most of them are obsseced with his badass DeeBeeZee portray in the Cell, they are so blindly obssed with that character that they forget that at its core Gohan is not that type of character and never was.
You say it like it's a bad thing. What's wrong with Gohan developing into a balanced warrior. Granted, I understand if people want him as a Goku wannabe, but you can't just a character who as a young boy grew a pair to save the day to an adult transform into a guy who doesn't train at all. You can be an educated family man and still fight for what you love.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:35 pm

precita wrote:People are just upset that Gohan became successful in life with a cute wife and child and is an intelligent scholar, rather than some badass warrior who wants to fight all the time and destroy all bad guys in sight.

Gohan's type of life is what anyone would want in real life. He's married to a girl whose father is rich, he has a good home life, he's intelligent, and he's a caring father and husband. But since this is a show about fighting rather than a life sim, people are upset.
This. I get that the series is primarily about fighting, especially at this point, but that still doesn't make it such a bad thing that Gohan, the boy who never got to have a normal life, might finally want to settle down and actually have just that.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:I don't hate Gohan, I just hate how he's presented (at least in Super)... It's cool he actually made something of himself but they make him look like this Yamcha-tier loser. I mean, even the latest episode had him failing at being a caregiver for Videl.
I'm assuming you're referring to him not being good at making dinner? How is a dorky moment that's meant to be endearing "failing"?
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:43 pm

EXBadguy wrote:
Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:They hate current Gohan because most of them are obsseced with his badass DeeBeeZee portray in the Cell, they are so blindly obssed with that character that they forget that at its core Gohan is not that type of character and never was.
You say it like it's a bad thing. What's wrong with Gohan developing to that into a balanced warrior. Granted, I understand if people want him as a Goku wannabe, but you can't just a character who as a young boy grew a pair to save the day to an adult transform into a guy who doesn't train at all. You can be an educated family man and still you can also fight for what you love.
There is plenty wrong with it. Gohan has firmly been depicted for the past twenty-two years as simply not being the character fans think he is or should be, the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files notwithstanding. The second problem is that folks want to force their broken ideology of what makes a 'real man' onto a fictional character.

Gohan is an erratic character who has had his storylines bounced around as the made-on-the-run plot demanded with little consideration for a quality story. That's okay, because now he's finally receiving a consistent depiction that won't inevitably set him up for failure.

Of course, I'm ignoring how the latest movie outright depicts Gohan as the strongest character defending the Earth against Freeza's men, despite not training. Gohan's strong simply because the plot feels like it!
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by SaiyanZ » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:13 pm

I don't think Gohan being strong is a demand by the plot. It just feels natural that someone who was taken beyond their limits by one of the higher deities in the cosmos remains the most powerful out of a group of people who he's shown to be stronger than (for the most part) since he was introduced.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:38 pm

They hate current Gohan because most of them are obsseced with his badass DeeBeeZee portray in the Cell, they are so blindly obssed with that character that they forget that at its core Gohan is not that type of character and never was.
Yeah, but why do you think that is?

I'll answer:
Badass DeeBeeZee portrayal = interesting/cool.

Modern portrayal = painfully uninteresting.

He doesn't need to be that Cell Games Gohan for people to appreciate him. This was pretty clear when he beat the piss out of Buu, and by all the arguments that claim he should have been the one to get the kill against the majin.

This series is about fighting. Naturally, nobody is going to take it well when a character is built up to be something, later regresses, and then turns into something painfully bland that only serves to remind us Gohan is... there.

He is a boring as hell character who is now getting embarrassingly trounced time and again. And mind you, I'm including GT here. And yeah, I know someone wants to argue that he got trounced in the start of DBZ. Okay, but this is when I have to bring up the Cell Games. From the time he was little, we witnessed his hidden powers giving him the strength to temporarily get the best out of anyone...ever...no matter the initial gap between their strength. The Cell Games implies he finally managed to tap into and gain full control of this power, which allowed him to make Cell his woman. Afterwards, they come up with lack of training bullshit to justify his loss of strength. Oh, but, guess what?! Krillin doesn't train, but he's the strongest human! Durr hurp. Still, Gohan remains a co-star and receives ultimate powers, but thanks to the writing, not only does he not do jackshit with it, but he's constantly, and casually, one-shotted in recent material, forced into the sidelines, doing nothing of interest, when he's not.

I genuinely hate the modern portrayal of this character because he could have been something so much better, and still can, if they used him right. But the truth is, they don't want to.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:46 pm

A character can be interesting without needing to be a badass fighter.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by EXBadguy » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:50 pm

I'm starting to get under the impression that yall WANT Gohan to be a punching bag instead of a developed adult character.
fadeddreams5 wrote: The Cell Games implies he finally managed to tap into and gain full control of this power, which allowed him to make Cell his woman. Afterwards, they come up with lack of training bullshit to justify his loss of strength. Oh, but, guess what?! Krillin doesn't train, but he's the strongest human! Durr hurp.
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Re: Why so much hate for Gohan now?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:52 pm

He is nicely developing as one.
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