"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by KonohaKillas » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:20 pm

One thing I like in this manga also was where they unfused Kibito and Supreme Kai, I always liked their individual designs much better than the fused one.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Avery » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:24 am

Is it written as "SSJ Blue" or "SSJ Ao"? If it's the former, then I'll be having so much fun with the "Burū" part. :lol:
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:38 am

Avery wrote:Is it written as "SSJ Blue" or "SSJ Ao"? If it's the former, then I'll be having so much fun with the "Burū" part. :lol:
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:31 am

So was there a mistranslation or something, how can Vados have trained Whis only 1,000 years ago when Whis trained Beerus and Beerus has been around for a lot longer than that?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:37 am

It's not a mistranslation. Whis can still have been stronger than Beerus before Vados trained him. Given Elder Kaioshin's line about the guy who sealed him in the Z Sword, which turns out to be Beerus, the Hakaishin was/could have been debatably weaker than Majin Buu as one point. There's a TON of wiggle room here.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by KonohaKillas » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:53 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's not a mistranslation. Whis can still have been stronger than Beerus before Vados trained him. Given Elder Kaioshin's line about the guy who sealed him in the Z Sword, which turns out to be Beerus, the Hakaishin was/could have been debatably weaker than Majin Buu as one point. There's a TON of wiggle room here.
There TheDevilCorpse goes again, you do a good job of making very good logic of things that are murky. The main idea is that you're correct in that there is a lot of "wiggle room" here and nothing necessarily doesn't fit so we have to wait and see how everything unfolds.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Bullza » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:38 pm

So how do you pronounce Vados?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:41 pm

Bullza wrote:So how do you pronounce Vados?
Throw "ヴァドス" into Google Translate and hit the little speaker icon. It'll read it out to you. It's basically what it says minus the U on the end.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by jcogginsa » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:49 pm

Bullza wrote:So how do you pronounce Vados?
Go here: http://www.fromtexttospeech.com/

Type in Calvados

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Bullza » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:20 pm

Ah so it's Va-dos. I was thinking Vad-os.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by irreality » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:47 pm

Why Spanish? Calvados is french: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvados IPA: [kal.va.dos]

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by jcogginsa » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:51 pm

irreality wrote:Why Spanish? Calvados is french: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvados IPA: [kal.va.dos]
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:54 pm

Anyone curious about Champa's broken tail? Huge potential for a backstory there, it'd be funny if Beerus done it. :lol:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by OkamiTakahashi » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:38 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
OkamiTakahashi wrote:Well, there go all the theories of GT being in Universe 6! :lol:

I love how the manga is much less focused on the movie events and shows what else is going on. Though the defusing of Kibito Kai still creates a big plothole if you count GT.
That only CONFIRMS it's universe 8! But seriously they're 2 different canons :P
Eh to each their own I say- we all have our interpretations and they don't really confirm nor deny anything. It's all ambiguous as far as I can see. I actually rather enjoyed GT despite its differences and flaws. But if they do ever find a way to tie Super and End of Z to GT, then good for them I say. Not everyone will be pleased but that's to be expected.

Anyway, I wonder what Universe 6 is like. THey've only mentioned Earth so far. Does it have its own Namek, its own Dragon Balls, or even it's own Kaioshins?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by irreality » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:26 pm

Until there is a complete unescapable plothole, you can say they are all in the same universe, but there are some minor mistakes and plotholes in the telling. No biggie: it isn't like DB doesn't have those anyway.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kidhero1000 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:56 pm

Give Toriyama time for the plotholes to come rolling in.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:17 pm

OkamiTakahashi wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
OkamiTakahashi wrote:Well, there go all the theories of GT being in Universe 6! :lol:

I love how the manga is much less focused on the movie events and shows what else is going on. Though the defusing of Kibito Kai still creates a big plothole if you count GT.
That only CONFIRMS it's universe 8! But seriously they're 2 different canons :P
Eh to each their own I say- we all have our interpretations and they don't really confirm nor deny anything. It's all ambiguous as far as I can see. I actually rather enjoyed GT despite its differences and flaws. But if they do ever find a way to tie Super and End of Z to GT, then good for them I say. Not everyone will be pleased but that's to be expected.

Anyway, I wonder what Universe 6 is like. THey've only mentioned Earth so far. Does it have its own Namek, its own Dragon Balls, or even it's own Kaioshins?
Since it's a twin universe everything in U7 existed at least at one time in U6. Everything supposedly has a twin, meaning, the human's probably had twins, Goku and Vegeta has a twin, and so on. Anything is possible though, for example just because Goku is alive, doesn't mean his twin in U6 still is, but he had to exist at some point. This is just my opinion though, taken from Beerus, Champa, and Vados and Whis being twins, a long with a Earth existing in U6 as well. Though the Humans in U6 are wiped out, and our human's in U7 are obviously still alive. That lead's me to believe everything has a twin, and are probably born at the same time, but they don't have to die at the same time. Some think Goku's twin would have never hit his head, and would still be evil, but I don't know how exactly that would play out, we know existing things (people, places,things) have twins, but as far as Event's or a Timeline/History goes I'm unsure, if Earth's human's were destroyed, then it can't follow the same timeline right? Then that would mean U6 is a Twin/alternate universe, meaning that (people, places,and things) have twins, but the timeline itself does not. In other word's U6 probably has it's own history/timeline, for example, Buu probably has a twin, but that doesn't mean he was awoken in U6, meaning he was never a threat, which would lead to Uub never being born.

Edit- I could also see it working vice versa meaning just because say "Broly" is still alive in U6 doesn't mean he couldn't have been killed at birth or some point in time before he could meet Goku in U7. This is just me thinking to hard, but if it works like this they have a lot of chances to fit GT and the movies in Super.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:26 pm

It'd be kind of entertaining to me if in Universe 6, Vegeta's the tall one and it's Gokû who's on the short side. X3
Whatever they're like, they're the two whose counterparts I want to see the most.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:32 pm

Chuquita wrote:It'd be kind of entertaining to me if in Universe 6, Vegeta's the tall one and it's Gokû who's on the short side. X3
Whatever they're like, they're the two whose counterparts I want to see the most.
I'm getting the feeling that twin doesn't mean they have to look exactly alike, (Champa is fat with a broken tail), or they could be a twin by being the opposite gender. There is countless option's: Goku could be evil, he could have never taken up fighting, he could be lazy, Vegeta might actually be the good guy, it's just insane possibilities, there's no way to really predict it, which is interesting.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:09 pm

Xeztin wrote:
Chuquita wrote:It'd be kind of entertaining to me if in Universe 6, Vegeta's the tall one and it's Gokû who's on the short side. X3
Whatever they're like, they're the two whose counterparts I want to see the most.
I'm getting the feeling that twin doesn't mean they have to look exactly alike, (Champa is fat with a broken tail), or they could be a twin by being the opposite gender. There is countless option's: Goku could be evil, he could have never taken up fighting, he could be lazy, Vegeta might actually be the good guy, it's just insane possibilities, there's no way to really predict it, which is interesting.
That's exactly why it's so much fun theorizing about. X3
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