Agreed. Let's compare. In the Boo saga Gohan was utterly annihilated by Fat Boo. He was beaten easily. This is a big deal as Goku and Vegeta are not a that much stronger than Gohan. They're significantly stronger sure, but not so much as out of his league. So Fat Boo crushing Gohan here actually builds up his threat level as if he can crush Gohan this badly, then he can potentially crush Goku (who we only knew was SSJ2 level at the time) and Vegeta too. With Freeza, he crushed Gohan in a single punch at his lowest level. This is not really that big of a deal as Goku and Vegeta could just as effortlessly do the same thing so there's no real need to be worried that this may be trouble for the true heroes. Freeza's build up really only works on the low level losers on earth as by one shotting Gohan we know no one else could stand a chance....even though Gohan already said he stood no chance already. But as said above it does bring the question of if Freeza can one shot Gohan at this level, how much more crazy is he when at max. But again he beat Gohan....so what? At this point after all the god stuff and Gohan being lamented as a loser who's gotten A LOT weaker, that no longer means as much as it could have.ekrolo2 wrote:The intent would've worked a lot better if Gohan was in his actual strongest and Piccolo was nerfed so a random mook can appear like a threat.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:That's exactly what the point of the scene was. Gohan was the strongest of all the Z fighter (and that is why the Piccolo scene happened so Gohan one shotting Shishami would show he was the strongest) and Freeza almost killed him in his first form so imagine what he will be like in the final form. It was there to show the audience how strong Freeza had become.buutenks wrote:Well freeza one shotted a base gohan,so his fault for not being on guard.Guess he made same mistake as goku did.Also taking in account that freeza's final form can survive without much injury base goku after he absorbed the god ki,id say his first form would be insanely powerful.
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Now that we know about the u6 tournament,do you think that's all there is to u6 and the Super dragon balls will get their own arc ?
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It might be two different parts of the same arc; like how the Buu arc started with the tournament and then went off in another direction.
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Toriyama said that Goku & co. will search for the Super Dragon Balls across the 6th Universe, so the tournament will only be the beginning, apparently. My guess is that the U7 team will win, but Champa will get pissed and use the Super DBs to switch the Earths either way, which is why they will start the hunt.sintzu wrote:Now that we know about the u6 tournament,do you think that's all there is to u6 and the Super dragon balls will get their own arc ?
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If the Super Dragon Balls are huge, maybe planet size. How will they carry them around? How big is their dragon?! Is it possible to put them in a capsule?
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Maybe they're not that big since Shampa took one away from the Freeza army...LightBing wrote:If the Super Dragon Balls are huge, maybe planet size. How will they carry them around? How big is their dragon?! Is it possible to put them in a capsule?
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We know Freeza's Army found it, we didn't catch any glimpse of it. It might be moon sized or planetary sized, it isn't shown if Champa took it or by which methods. It's all very mysterious.Beerus-sama wrote:Maybe they're not that big since Shampa took one away from the Freeza army...LightBing wrote:If the Super Dragon Balls are huge, maybe planet size. How will they carry them around? How big is their dragon?! Is it possible to put them in a capsule?
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Probably it was Vados power. The same way Whis always takes food with him.LightBing wrote: We know Freeza's Army found it, we didn't catch any glimpse of it. It might be moon sized or planetary sized, it isn't shown if Champa took it or by which methods. It's all very mysterious.
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Come on there has to be someone that can translate this.TomTom wrote:Hello guys. If anywone can translate please.
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I mean, you can maaaaaaybe read into it like that, but the intent of the Vados/Whis scene seems pretty squarely to just be, "Hey, these two are in the same general league of power, and there's a chance Vados might be stronger." Just letting the reader know where things stand/whetting appetites for later. It's really non-committal, just establishing a general tier and relationship.raulvalente wrote:I would say that Whis is stronger than Vados because, even if Vados trained him 1,000 years ago... look at the Gods they live with.
Beerus likes fighting, even if he's lazy sometimes. It doesn't seem to me that Champa would be a God who likes fighting and training, so I think the long period of time that Whis spent training with Beerus improved his skills and made him stronger than Vados, who I think that didn't particularly train in the last 1,000 years.
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LightBing wrote:If the Super Dragon Balls are huge, maybe planet size. How will they carry them around? How big is their dragon?! Is it possible to put them in a capsule?
Maybe we'll finally see Goku pull of some Silver Age Superman feats in order to pull around these planet-sized Dragon Balls? XD
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@Psykomatikk Chi Chi and Satan disagree on how best to raise Pan, so Chi Chi chases everyone out of the house.
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@Psykomatikk Meanwhile Goku learns Vegeta is training with Whis, but can't teleport after him since he doesn't know Whis' planet's location.
@Psykomatikk Chi Chi and Satan disagree on how best to raise Pan, so Chi Chi chases everyone out of the house.
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@Psykomatikk Meanwhile Goku learns Vegeta is training with Whis, but can't teleport after him since he doesn't know Whis' planet's location.
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Literally it says Whis' place is too far away so Goku can't use instant transmission to get there.Psykomatik wrote: @Psykomatikk Meanwhile Goku learns Vegeta is training with Whis, but can't teleport after him since he doesn't know Whis' planet's location.
Odd because he can in RoF.
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Sorry, that last part should really be Goku that can't teleport to Whis' place because it's too far away, rather than because he doesn't know where it is.Psykomatik wrote:Todd Blankenship @Herms98 1 hil y a 1 heure
@Psykomatikk Chi Chi and Satan disagree on how best to raise Pan, so Chi Chi chases everyone out of the house.
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@Psykomatikk Meanwhile Goku learns Vegeta is training with Whis, but can't teleport after him since he doesn't know Whis' planet's location.
(Edit: Ah, LuckyCat beat me to it.)
And to expand on the first part, it says Goku's whole family is happy that Pan's born...until Chi Chi and Satan start to disagree on how to raise her. So Chi Chi drives "Gohan and the others" from the house (no mention there of Goku, so he might already be off Whis-hunting by that point).
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He doesn't know where it is, like New Namek in the Cell Games. Teleporting from Beerus' to Earth is fine because he already knows where it is.LuckyCat wrote:Literally it says Whis' place is too far away so Goku can't use instant transmission to get there.Psykomatik wrote: @Psykomatikk Meanwhile Goku learns Vegeta is training with Whis, but can't teleport after him since he doesn't know Whis' planet's location.
Odd because he can in RoF.
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It might be too far away in the sense that Vegeta's ki is too faint (especially if he is not fully powered up) from such a distance for him to sense and teleport. In RoF they had all the fighters powered up to the max so that Goku could teleport.Herms wrote: Sorry, that last part should really be Goku that can't teleport to Whis' place because it's too far away, rather than because he doesn't know where it is.
I'm sort of happy Chichi is arguing with Mr. Satan. I was afraid of non-stop arguing with Goku. In-laws arguing with each other seems reasonable for some reason.
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I don't mind her arguing with Satan, but kicking everyone out of the house just continues the anime trend of her being too bitchy. If she were having a civil argument, I wouldn't even complain. But it's almost certainly going to be an over-the-top scene, with her screaming and possibly more eyeball fire.
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't mind her arguing with Satan, but kicking everyone out of the house just continues the anime trend of her being too bitchy. If she were having a civil argument, I wouldn't even complain. But it's almost certainly going to be an over-the top scene, with her screaming and possibly more eyeball fire.
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So it's not Gokû being yelled at? Oh thank goodness!irreality wrote:It might be too far away in the sense that Vegeta's ki is too faint (especially if he is not fully powered up) from such a distance for him to sense and teleport. In RoF they had all the fighters powered up to the max so that Goku could teleport.Herms wrote: Sorry, that last part should really be Goku that can't teleport to Whis' place because it's too far away, rather than because he doesn't know where it is.
I'm sort of happy Chichi is arguing with Mr. Satan. I was afraid of non-stop arguing with Goku. In-laws arguing with each other seems reasonable for some reason.
The emotional abuse he received the other week was incredibly uncomfortable.
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You are already breaking the rules by asking in the first place.
Anyway, I hate to say it, because I don't mind Goku and Chi Chi as a couple in the manga...but the best parts of the anime are usually when Goku can just stay away from her. She wasn't too bad while on the ship, but now that's she's back at home, things seem to be returning to "normal". So, sadly, I'm going to be glad that Goku's gonna be leaving soon.
Anyway, I hate to say it, because I don't mind Goku and Chi Chi as a couple in the manga...but the best parts of the anime are usually when Goku can just stay away from her. She wasn't too bad while on the ship, but now that's she's back at home, things seem to be returning to "normal". So, sadly, I'm going to be glad that Goku's gonna be leaving soon.










