The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:11 pm

Kamiccolo vs Android 18 (18 was confident she could win but Piccolo is no push-over)

Ox King+End of DB Chi-Chi +8er vs Korin.

Purple butterfly at the end of battle of gods VS Yellow butterfly at the end of battle of gods. (The universe may be destroyed by the butterflies of Planet Beerus!)

lssj4 Broly VS Omega Shenron

Raditz VS Appule
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:30 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Kamiccolo vs Android 18 (18 was confident she could win but Piccolo is no push-over)

Ox King+End of DB Chi-Chi +8er vs Karin.

Purple butterfly at the end of battle of gods VS Yellow butterfly at the end of battle of gods. (The universe may be destroyed by the butterflies of Planet Beerus!)

lssj4 Broly VS Omega Shenron

Raditz VS Appule
-Probably Piccolo... unless #18 can keep a cool head throughout
-ChiChi solos
-The Earth's core wins
-Dragon Thunder...
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:17 pm

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Kamiccolo vs Android 18 (18 was confident she could win but Piccolo is no push-over)

Ox King+End of DB Chi-Chi +8er vs Karin.

Purple butterfly at the end of battle of gods VS Yellow butterfly at the end of battle of gods. (The universe may be destroyed by the butterflies of Planet Beerus!)

lssj4 Broly VS Omega Shenron

Raditz VS Appule
-Probably Piccolo... unless #18 can keep a cool head throughout
-ChiChi solos
-The Earth's core wins
-Dragon Thunder...

I see 18 as stronger, but Piccolo winning with HIGH difficulty. Chi-Chi doesn't seam to be past Roshi to me,she was trained for only 3 years by a retired student of his. And Korin is stronger then Roshi at the beginning of Ball.
Idk about Omega,He's the strongest canon villain yeah,but Broly canon also wreck Goku+vegeta like omega. But Omega has regeneration.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Methuselah » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:49 pm

Noah wrote:New match:

100% FP Freeza x Yakon (With/Without Dark Planet)
Yakon slaughters Freeza.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:52 pm

Methuselah wrote:
Noah wrote:New match:

100% FP Freeza x Yakon (With/Without Dark Planet)
Yakon slaughters Freeza.
Agreed. Beerus's statement about base saiyans<frieza is just like saying frieza>buu because he called himself the strongest in the universe on namek.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:18 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Methuselah wrote:
Noah wrote:New match:

100% FP Freeza x Yakon (With/Without Dark Planet)
Yakon slaughters Freeza.
Agreed. Beerus's statement about base saiyans<Freeza is just like saying Freeza>buu because he called himself the strongest in the universe on namek.
There not enough proof in the manga that suggest Base Saiyans > Freeza,so i go with Beerus statement.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:53 pm

Yakon slaughters Freeza.
Agreed. Beerus's statement about base saiyans<Freeza is just like saying Freeza>buu because he called himself the strongest in the universe on namek.
There not enough proof in the manga that suggest Base Saiyans > Freeza,so i go with Beerus statement.
But Goku was suppressed when beerus scoped him out,when he's surpressed his power level is 5k as we see in yo son goku,which is canon to BOG.

Also Goku not getting 50x stronger after all he's been through is harder to swallow then the keyboard I'm typing on my friend.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:27 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:But goku was surpressed whne beerus scoped him out,when he's surpressed his power level is 5k as we see in yo son goku,which is canon to BOG.
Its not like Beerus didnt know that Goku is surpressing his power.Even Ginyu know that Goku is holding back and actually almost guessed his full power.
Also Goku not getting 50x stronger after all he's been through is harder to swallow then the keyboard I'm typing on my friend.
Tenshinhan trained for years but was still weaker than Kuririn.And also getting 50x stronger is no joke unless you are ROF Freeza or Android Saga Piccolo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:51 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:But goku was surpressed whne beerus scoped him out,when he's surpressed his power level is 5k as we see in yo son goku,which is canon to BOG.
Its not like Beerus didnt know that Goku is surpressing his power.Even Ginyu know that Goku is holding back and actually almost guessed his full power.
Also Goku not getting 50x stronger after all he's been through is harder to swallow then the keyboard I'm typing on my friend.
Tenshinhan trained for years but was still weaker than Kuririn.And also getting 50x stronger is no joke unless you are ROF Freeza or Android Saga Piccolo.
goku got 15x stronger in 6 days....50x stronger with training,and zenkais from battles ...yeah I think goku being stronger then cell in the buu saga in his base form is an understatement.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:12 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:But goku was surpressed whne beerus scoped him out,when he's surpressed his power level is 5k as we see in yo son goku,which is canon to BOG.
Its not like Beerus didnt know that Goku is surpressing his power.Even Ginyu know that Goku is holding back and actually almost guessed his full power.
Also Goku not getting 50x stronger after all he's been through is harder to swallow then the keyboard I'm typing on my friend.
Tenshinhan trained for years but was still weaker than Kuririn.And also getting 50x stronger is no joke unless you are ROF Freeza or Android Saga Piccolo.
goku got 15x stronger in 6 days....50x stronger with training,and zenkais from battles ...yeah I think goku being stronger then cell in the buu saga in his base form is an understatement.
Goku was stated to use zenkais in his training for Namek.Unless there is some feats/statements that proves Base Saiyans > Freeza.Then I'm going by Beerus statement,Its not like it the only one in the series that doesnt make sense,ie.Piccolo at the lowest is around Semi Perfect Cell at the Cell Games,Yet by ROF,Hes still weaker than MSSJ Kid Gohan,Logically those 13 years of training wouldve made him him way above Super Perfect Cell.I could be Piccolo is already at his peak by Cell Games thats why he recieve low gains,the same could be said for BOG Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:34 pm

Namu vs Pirate Robot

Golden Freeza vs Perfect Cell - If Freeza during Namek, knew about the transformation.

Android 8 vs Mummy

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Post by Battousai » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:00 am

LightBing wrote:Namu vs Pirate Robot

Golden Freeza vs Perfect Cell - If Freeza during Namek, knew about the transformation.

Android 8 vs Mummy
Namu wins with mild difficulty.
Golden Freeza kills Cell without moving a finger. His ki is enough to knock out Cell.
Android 8 wins after a hard fight.

Okay, a new one.

Goku ( after he absorved some of the SSJG power ) vs Vegeta ( six months of training under Whis )

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:03 am

Battousai wrote:Goku ( after he absorved some of the SSJG power ) vs Vegeta ( six months of training under Whis )
Draw. Both are paired now.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:06 am

Noah wrote:Freeza vs. Yakon
Giving that Kaioshin is not confident on taking Yakon alone and that he claims any Kaioshin is strong enough to defeat Freeza with one blast, I guess Yakon wins easily.
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Raditz vs. Appule
Soldiers at Appule's level laughted at powerlevels of 1,000 while Raditz was a lot worried about them. Perhaps Appule is stronger than low-class Saiyans.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:39 am

New matches:

- Androids 17 & 18 x Super Android 13

- Spopovich x BoDB Goku
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:32 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Androids 17 & 18 x Super Android 13

- Spopovich x BoDB Goku
-#13 destroys
-BoDB Goku. Power pole extend.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:36 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
Captain Space wrote:Pretty sure base Goku was stronger than Yakon anyway, if not by too much. He probably could've won without SSJ eventually even in the dark, it just would've taken a while.
That's a fair point of view, but do you think Gotenks would see through his visual disadvantage?
Gotenks can sense ki, and I highly doubt Yakon can suppress his ki, so probably.
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Kamiccolo vs Android 18 (18 was confident she could win but Piccolo is no push-over)

Ox King+End of DB Chi-Chi +8er vs Karin.

Purple butterfly at the end of battle of gods VS Yellow butterfly at the end of battle of gods. (The universe may be destroyed by the butterflies of Planet Beerus!)

lssj4 Broly VS Omega Shenron

Raditz VS Appule
Hmm. Well he was evenly matched with 17 so Piccolo'd be at a slight advantage here, but not by too much, and she could probably wear his stamina down like 17 was doing.

Gyumao and #8 are basically impossible to get a fix on, right? We never really get anything solid on the former, or any kind of upper limit on the latter.

...you lost me, sorry.

Broly is ridiculously weaker than GT Goku form-per-form. Even if "LSSJ4" is to SSJ4 what LSSJ is to FPSSJ, Broly is leagues below SSJ4 Goku here. Omega wins easily.

I always interpreted it as Freeza's soldiers being about 1,000 each, and only being confident about taking on others of that level due to superior numbers. After all, Gohan and Krillin at 1,500 beat two of them easy, and there's no indication they were especially weaker than the rest. (Plus, Nappa detected that several Earthlings were over 1000 and was still surprised when Tenshinhan was able to beat a Raditz-equivalent Saibaman.)
LightBing wrote:Namu vs Pirate Robot

Golden Freeza vs Perfect Cell - If Freeza during Namek, knew about the transformation.

Android 8 vs Mummy
No idea. The Pirate Robot's in part of that chunk of the Red Ribbon Army arc I still haven't seen.

By my estimate Freeza's golden form (movie version) barely doubled his power if that, Cell destroys. DB Super version, based on the way the show's heading in this regard, looks like it might be more substantial though.

Again, who knows what 8's limit is?
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Noah wrote:Freeza vs. Yakon
Giving that Kaioshin is not confident on taking Yakon alone and that he claims any Kaioshin is strong enough to defeat Freeza with one blast, I guess Yakon wins easily.
Wasn't Kaioshin only wary about the others taking on Yakon one-on-one?
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Post by supercat » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:04 pm

Noah wrote:New match:

100% FP Freeza x Yakon (With/Without Dark Planet)
25% Frieza (Namek) one-shots effortlessly. Two canon sources explicitly stated that Frieza > Base Saiyans, so until we hear otherwise, I'm standing behind Frieza (Namek) > Base Saiyans (BoG) > Yakon.

I'd say Buu arc Base Saiyans are more or less in the same realm of power as 50% Frieza (Namek); considering how easily Goku pummeled Yakon down, I think it's pretty feasible to assume that the outcome would end poorly for the brutish Majin if he ever got into a scuffle with the sadistic tyrant.

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Post by Angelus » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:14 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Androids 17 & 18 x Super Android 13

- Spopovich x BoDB Goku
Super Android 13. 16 was the most powerful non-Cell android that Gero made. 13 ranks close as 2nd. If Super 13 is close to 16's level... then the twins don't stand a chance. It would just be a replay of post-absorption Imperfect Cell VS Kamiccolo and 17.

Goku one-shots. Spopo isn't that superhuman, even if you placed him in Pilaf Saga DB.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:41 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
Noah wrote:Freeza vs. Yakon
Giving that Kaioshin is not confident on taking Yakon alone and that he claims any Kaioshin is strong enough to defeat Freeza with one blast, I guess Yakon wins easily.
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Raditz vs. Appule
Soldiers at Appule's level laughted at powerlevels of 1,000 while Raditz was a lot worried about them. Perhaps Appule is stronger than low-class Saiyans.
I mean, Kaioshin wasn't confident in taking on Pui Pui alone.

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