Why so much hate for Gohan now?

[IDreamtIWasABee]

While I enjoy the pitch black humor behind Gohan and the next generation being failed heroes in need of the dead legends to save them in the Boo saga, it's still just a little too absurd to tell a story that only exists to refute itself. Why build Gohan up to be a hero solely to make the point that, oops, some kids aren't meant to be heroes?

Gohan isn't Yamcha or Tenshinhan, easily ignored or quietly forgotten. He isn't even Future Trunks, who at least had his story wrapped up. He was the preordained chosen wonder-kid whatsit from the beginning of the Z era. You can't sweep that kind of buildup under the rug and maintain artistic credibility or fan loyalty.

(And the fact that he doesn't need to do dick to go SSJ God, effortlessly gaining the most power available to protect his newborn, makes the character astonishingly awful as a person. Jesus, Gohan. From dime store Peter Parker in the Boo saga to full-blown deadbeat dad in the new stuff. Guess the apple doesn't fall so far from the tree after all.)

[SSJ God Gogeta]

People such as myself aren't asking for him to be the main protagonist but for something a bit better than what we're getting now...
Sure he's "successful" at...

Stuff... Care to explain a bit more about what Gohan does? No? Well then it's kind of hard for me to give a crap...

This is an action/adventure story, not real life... If Gohan is successful and it adds nothing to the story then chances are I'm not gonna give a crap. Gohan ain't real so why the fuck should I care that he's successful at... well whatever the hell he does? I watch this show to be entertained and Gohan just isn't that entertaining anymore.
He still can be, episode 17 proves this.


But such things are short lived.


Dragon Ball being one of those series with a lot of fighting means Gohan's going to get his hands dirty at some point. However, does every outcome need to be this?

It's become a bad joke and I hate bad jokes...
Gohan doesn't need to be a fighter to be an interesting character, but he does need to be more than a damn punching bag...

[pacz360]

People such as myself aren't asking for him to be the main protagonist but for something a bit better than what we're getting now...
Sure he's "successful" at...

Stuff... Care to explain a bit more about what Gohan does? No? Well then it's kind of hard for me to give a crap...

This is an action/adventure story, not real life... If Gohan is successful and it adds nothing to the story then chances are I'm not gonna give a crap. Gohan ain't real so why the fuck should I care that he's successful at... well whatever the hell he does? I watch this show to be entertained and Gohan just isn't that entertaining anymore.
He still can be, episode 17 proves this.


But such things are short lived.


Dragon Ball being one of those series with a lot of fighting means Gohan's going to get his hands dirty at some point. However, does every outcome need to be this?

It's become a bad joke and I hate bad jokes...
Gohan doesn't need to be a fighter to be an interesting character, but he does need to be more than a damn punching bag...

Seeing what you posted makes me sad and dissapointed for fuck sakes this is what disgust me i'm not asking for gohan be a fighting obsessed lug nut like his father but at least treat his character with respect not some beta nerd who looks like bitch everytime in a fight this is a guy who slaughter the cell jrs,defeated cell,saved the earth and beat the shit out of super buu to the point the latter had to absorb his brother,his friend and mentor to beat him and now what looking like a modern day yamacha. Is gohan succesful? Sure but this action series do you think freeza or some future enemies is gonna give shit about if he has a phd or something hahaha hell no.

[dbzfan7]

Spoiler:

People such as myself aren't asking for him to be the main protagonist but for something a bit better than what we're getting now...
Sure he's "successful" at...

Stuff... Care to explain a bit more about what Gohan does? No? Well then it's kind of hard for me to give a crap...

This is an action/adventure story, not real life... If Gohan is successful and it adds nothing to the story then chances are I'm not gonna give a crap. Gohan ain't real so why the fuck should I care that he's successful at... well whatever the hell he does? I watch this show to be entertained and Gohan just isn't that entertaining anymore.
He still can be, episode 17 proves this.


But such things are short lived.


Dragon Ball being one of those series with a lot of fighting means Gohan's going to get his hands dirty at some point. However, does every outcome need to be this?

It's become a bad joke and I hate bad jokes...
Gohan doesn't need to be a fighter to be an interesting character, but he does need to be more than a damn punching bag...

I think you already have said you don't care that much for Gohan, and yet you truly do understand what the problem is. While I can't say it's the same for everyone, but this is usually what I hear.

Gohan is successful and has a happy life and loving family. He's realistically doing well for himself.

This is a cartoon about shonen anime super martial artists fighting the next big battle with some humour and little drama thrown in the mix. What does any of the above have to do with the series? What does Gohan's career that we still don't know have to do with the series? What importance or character comes from being the average dad? What importance comes from usually being beaten down and then learning nothing from that? Krillin had a family in the Boo arc too and let's just see how important that was to the series....oh wait...it wasn't at all. It really meant nothing.

As said above, why should I give a crap when him being successful means nothing to the story at all. He could be not successful and he'd have the exact same meaning in the story. He could have no family, and he'd still mean as much as he does now. This isn't real life. This isn't a Family Matters, Home Improvement, The Jeffersons, or whatever. Gohan having a family does as much for him as it has done for Krillin, which is done nothing for progressing him at all.

Gohan should be the main character

Can't speak for everyone, but why do we wanting him to actually have relevance, mean he has to be the main character? Is it so alien to have someone want to not be a battle loving idiot, and simply care about protecting his family and their future? Why do I always hear the "Oh well he doesn't like fighting so he shouldn't really do anything." What the hell is wrong is fighting not for yourself like Goku and Vegeta, but for others? We see this with Aang, Megaman, MegaMan X, Most super heroes which Gohan actually is, plenty of RPG protagonists who fight for other motivated reasons. Yet for some reason it's stuck in peoples heads you HAVE to love and want to fight to do it. Why must everyone have pretty much the same motivation? Wouldn't it be way better to have different motivations for people? Or even if it weren't Gohan, why do people want less characters to be useful? I always hear "Oh well they can be useful outside of battle and help drive the story". Ok then let's see how often that happens in a Shonen punch each other in the face anime, written by someone who is very simple with his stories, and would probably never think that much that his own work is that great.

Gohan should be badass and not funny

Yes when I hear that it's annoying. I like dorky Gohan. It's endearing to me. What's so cool about Gohan is when he puts aside his dorky self when he needs to be. What is also really funny is when he thinks is really cool, isn't cool. Like how he before though his Saiyaman outfit and gimick was so cool, while everyone else found it lame. I don't want stone cold badass SSJ2/Ultimate Gohan 24/7. That'd be boring. I like my Saiyaman. I like how timid he is. I like how early on it seems Videl would probably wear the pants in their relationship. It was cute. I like that cute episode we just had with Gohan. I don't want to see psycho SSJ2 Gohan be like the only thing. The whole point of that moment was Gohan losing control of himself, so that shouldn't really happen anymore, especially after the ritual he had.

Gohan should beat a main villain again

I don't give a shit about this. This would be nice sure, but that really doesn't matter to me. It's enough to be a dependable and useful character to story, which he isn't. As of now he is a cardboard cutout. Hell if he could even be half of what Vegeta has would be a miracle. I see people bitch about how Vegeta should be the hero and kill a main bad guy, but the guy has it soooo good right now. He has all the real character moments, interaction, and importance in the series now aside from Goku. He's got it made.

[Low Tone G]

For me Gohan is like: " I know what I'm capable of, but I still don't know what to do." And not only that , but he doesn't even have a decent pesonality regarding habits and speech. I can't even follow how does he act. Can anyone characterize him? What is he useful for? Is he a gag-character? Can anyone rely on him? Does he know how to behave in different situations? Does he behave consistently?

[sintzu]

I see people bitch about how Vegeta should be the hero and kill a main bad guy, but the guy has it soooo good right now. He has all the real character moments, interaction, and importance in the series now aside from Goku. He's got it made.

I still want him to be the hero but if it'll take away everything he has now like what killing Cell did for Gohan then I'll pass,sure it'll be great to see but the price will be way too high for me so I'll take what he has now.

Can anyone characterize him ? What is he useful for? Is he a gag-character? Can anyone rely on him? Does he know how to behave in different situations? Does he behave consistently?

Before killing Cell he wanted to get stronger by training with Goku&Piccolo so he could protect his friends&family but after that he kind of...changed I guess ? Toriyama didn't want him to be the main hero of the Buu arc but he still found a way to keep him relevant to the story but now it seems like he doesn't care about him or anyone else besides Goku&Vegeta which is somewhat surprising cause he said he didn't like Vegeta that much,he said Piccolo was his favorite character&he planned on having Gohan take over from Goku as the lead yet he's chosen Vegeta as Super's 2nd lead and threw Gohan&Piccolo to the side.

[Majin Vegeta Fan]

Because toei and toriyama ruined him like they did with vegeta.

[sintzu]

Because toei and toriyama ruined him like they did with vegeta.

They should tone down the comedic scenes but other then that they're doing a good job with him which is way more then I thought they would when BOG was announced in 2012.

[dbgtFO]

In the latest Super episode at least, I liked Gohan's portrayal and it was helped a lot by Mr. Satan not owning him like he did, when they found out Videl was pregnant.

[DBZAOTA482]

In the latest Super episode at least, I liked Gohan's portrayal and it was helped a lot by Mr. Satan not owning him like he did, when they found out Videl was pregnant.

Same here... if only he would help his ailing mother.

[Zephyr]

In the latest Super episode at least, I liked Gohan's portrayal and it was helped a lot by Mr. Satan not owning him like he did, when they found out Videl was pregnant.

Same here... if only he would help his ailing mother.

If only his mother was ailing.

[DBZAOTA482]

In the latest Super episode at least, I liked Gohan's portrayal and it was helped a lot by Mr. Satan not owning him like he did, when they found out Videl was pregnant.

Same here... if only he would help his ailing mother.

If only his mother was ailing.

That's not a nice thing to say about a woman going through menopause...

[HourglassIndigo]

I've liked Gohan in all of his forms thus far. Kid Gohan (Vegeta and Namek saga) was really cool, he had lots of potential. Cell Games Gohan I liked as well, same with Buu Saga Gohan. While I'm not crazy about putting Gohan on the back burner, I guess it's necessary since he's never really been interested in fighting, but only done it because he was forced into a corner.

[Pocket-God]

And here i am being one of the rare people that never liked Gohan at all XD

[soleil444]

And here i am being one of the rare people that never liked Gohan at all XD

Me too, he have his star in DBZ with killing Cell, that's it. 80% of DBZ based in Gohan, like DB in Goku or DBGT in Pan.
My only question is: DBS is based in who caracter?

[Lord Beerus]

And here i am being one of the rare people that never liked Gohan at all XD

Me too, he have his star in DBZ with killing Cell, that's it. 80% of DBZ based in Gohan, like DB in Goku or DBGT in Pan.
My only question is: DBS is based in who caracter?

I think Super with be more based around an ensemble cast, rather than a singular character much like how the manga was.

[damn]

The reason people are hating on Gohan now is cuz he isn't getting bullshit unfair power-ups without(or minimal) training that put him ahead of everyone
Gohan has always been a bland character from the start...he's just like that annoying kid actor,except he doesn't really get annoying until the Cell Saga where he starts turn into an arrogant little faggot when he transforms into SSJ2 and wants to make Cell "suffer"(thankfully they toned that shit down in the Buu saga but holy shit even there as soon as he gets the bullshit Mystic Power up which again makes him the strongest character he fucks it up by being an arrogant douchebag)

[DBZAOTA482]

The reason people are hating on Gohan now is cuz he isn't getting bullshit unfair power-ups without(or minimal) training that put him ahead of everyone
Gohan has always been a bland character from the start...he's just like that annoying kid actor,except he doesn't really get annoying until the Cell Saga where he starts turn into an arrogant little faggot when he transforms into SSJ2 and wants to make Cell "suffer"(thankfully they toned that shit down in the Buu saga but holy shit even there as soon as he gets the bullshit Mystic Power up which again makes him the strongest character he fucks it up by being an arrogant douchebag)

Watch your mouth, or else the mods will get ya.

[Avery]

I'd say he gets more hate than the other characters. People say he got "unfair" power ups in Z yet have no problem with Goku becoming a god by holding hands/standing for few minutes, when the character himself is greatly annoyed (to a lesser extent in Super) by the undeserved power. Then they go on to say Gohan was never an interesting character and thus didn't deserve to be the strongest and blah blah blah. Worst part? It's starting to be seen as a damn fact, even here, on Kanzenshuu of all places.

[MediaFanGirl93]

I love Gohan, but I can't stand how he is in Super. Heck, that's why I discontinued watching that show.