"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[FortuneSSJ]

Its still soon to say if they will rush Goku's/Vegeta's training or not.
Goku/Vegeta only came back after the other Z Fighters beat Freeza's soldiers.

[alakazam^]

So, now we have Luffy, Zoro and Robin being part of the Dragon World. Please, rest of the crew, join us as well (especially Pikachu )

[ArchedThunder]

Since it looks real now can we get a solid translation on this?
22「未定（タゴマがギニューと身体をチェンジしてさらにパワーアップを果たす）」

[Doctor.]

Since it looks real now can we get a solid translation on this?
22「未定（タゴマがギニューと身体をチェンジしてさらにパワーアップを果たす）」

Herms has translated it already.

t says Tagoma switches bodies with Ginyu and becomes even more powerful.

Tagoma, exchanging bodies with Ginyu, and powering up.

In other words: super-powerful frog-Tagoma.

I suppose crazier things have happened, but I'm remaining skeptical until I see something official.

[ArchedThunder]

Since it looks real now can we get a solid translation on this?
22「未定（タゴマがギニューと身体をチェンジしてさらにパワーアップを果たす）」

Herms has translated it already.

t says Tagoma switches bodies with Ginyu and becomes even more powerful.

Tagoma, exchanging bodies with Ginyu, and powering up.

In other words: super-powerful frog-Tagoma.

I suppose crazier things have happened, but I'm remaining skeptical until I see something official.

That's.... confusing. Maybe it means Tagoma's body is stronger after Ginyu takes it over?

[pacz360]

Since it looks real now can we get a solid translation on this?
22「未定（タゴマがギニューと身体をチェンジしてさらにパワーアップを果たす）」

Herms has translated it already.

t says Tagoma switches bodies with Ginyu and becomes even more powerful.

Tagoma, exchanging bodies with Ginyu, and powering up.

In other words: super-powerful frog-Tagoma.

I suppose crazier things have happened, but I'm remaining skeptical until I see something official.

Is ginyu even alive?
Edit: also where did he get it from?

[Doctor.]

Assuming this is real, maybe Tagoma's body is Ginyu's original body and Tagoma's personality was what used to be in the Ginyu body we saw on Namek?

[ekrolo2]

Ginyu's coming back?

[Herms]

That was already kind of discussed before this page. The image the titles originated on seemed more than fake, but the first title did end up being correct. So, who knows where we stand right now until we get a proper magazine scan or text 2ch leak as in previous months.

Yeah, it'd be fairly easy for someone to slip a fake title in among the real ones. But I guess we'll see.

[Hellspawn28]

If Ginyu is coming back then does he get wish back or is he still alive as a frog on Earth? If he is alive on Earth then how he wished back? Pilaf and #17 where bad, but not evil enough to be really evil. Ginyu's mind is still inside a frog, so he won't be wished back since he has been evil all of his life.

[ArchedThunder]

If Ginyu is coming back then does he get wish back or is he still alive as a frog on Earth? If he is alive on Earth then how he wished back? Pilaf and #17 where bad, but not evil enough to be really evil. Ginyu's mind is still inside a frog, so he won't be wished back since he has been evil all of his life.

Maybe he was a good frog.
Or maybe being a frog helped him slide under the radar and he got brought back because he was "just an animal".

[Doctor.]

Shouldn't Ginyu be on New Namek?

[Herms]

And sure enough, this 2chan thread has a more authentic-looking image listing the titles/airdates/staff for episodes 19-22. The first three are as we've seen already (and ep.19's title has already been confirmed from ep.18's NEP)...but for ep.22 it's simply サブタイトル未定, "title undecided", with absolutely nothing else written there about Tagoma or Ginyu or anything. However, later on in the thread someone started making those claims about Tagoma switching bodies with Ginyu and whatnot, vaguely saying it was written in some magazine, but this person was called out for not being able to cite their sources.

So, unless some more evidence comes along, I think we can forget about this Tagoma/Ginyu stuff.

I guess I might as well give my own translations for these now:

19: "Despair Once More! Revival of the Evil Emperor Freeza!" (November 15th)
20: "A Warning From Jaco! Freeza and 1,000 Soldiers are Fast Approaching!" (November 22nd)
21: "The Revenge Begins! The Freeza Army's Malice Strikes Gohan!" (November 29th)
22: "Title Undecided" (December 6th)

[ArchedThunder]

And sure enough, this 2chan thread has a more authentic-looking image listing the titles/airdates/staff for episodes 19-22. The first three are as we've seen already (and ep.19's title has already been confirmed from ep.18's NEP)...but for ep.22 it's simply サブタイトル未定, "title undecided", with absolutely nothing else written there about Tagoma or Ginyu or anything. However, later on in the thread someone started making those claims about Tagoma switching bodies with Ginyu and whatnot, vaguely saying it was written in some magazine, but this person was called out for not being able to cite their sources.

So, unless some more evidence comes along, I think we can forget about this Tagoma/Ginyu stuff.

Ah, alright then.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Looks like I got my wish of them speed running the "F" arc and it explains why they decided to start teasing Champa and Vados so soon into the "F" arc.

[Chuquita]

F felt pretty plot empty to me (I wanted that undercover-Vegeta story in the second half so bad and didn't get it or the cliffhanger ending) ; if Toei doesn't want to add anything to the plot and instead stretches things out, I hope there's at least some interesting cutaways.


Many thanks, Herms!

[FortuneSSJ]

If that's real, they should give more time between Freeza revival and his revenge. But lets see how they do it.

Looks like I got my wish of them speed running the "F" arc and it explains why they decided to start teasing Champa and Vados so soon into the "F" arc.

I think Champa/Vados were supposed to appear already. The reason why they appeared in the manga right away, its because Toyotaro wouldn't do another ROF arc, so he did those scenes in BOG arc.

[Araki]

I don't see signs of it being neither rushed or slow, just the expected. Freeza is revived on 19, two episodes later his army attacks.

Speaking of which, makes sense if Gohan is really being targeted by himself on 21. The setting was changed in BoG, there's no reason to believe it won't be for RoF too.

[ArchedThunder]

I don't see signs of it being neither rushed or slow, just the expected. Freeza is revived on 19, two episodes later his army attacks.

Speaking of which, makes sense if Gohan is really being targeted by himself on 21. The setting was changed in BoG, there's no reason to believe it won't be for RoF too.

My theory right now is that Freeza's army attacks Satan City to draw Goku out and Gohan is the first to start fighting them.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I don't see signs of it being neither rushed or slow, just the expected. Freeza is revived on 19, two episodes later his army attacks.

Speaking of which, makes sense if Gohan is really being targeted by himself on 21. The setting was changed in BoG, there's no reason to believe it won't be for RoF too.

Let's see. By the end of episode 19 Freeza is fully resurrected. Episode 20 Jaco arrives to warn everybody and we'll probably be intro'd the "F" Z fighter cast and 21 is the start of the army fight. Predicting that at most the army fight lasted up to the end ep 23 that's half the film more or less already done, in 8 episodes (counting from ep 16 onnwards). The halfway point of BoG (up until Goku arrives) took about 8 episodes too. Seems similarly paced actually how about that.