"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Sandubadear]

That's one of my theories. Maybe Tagoma finds his old body (Ginyu, that is, with the frog's mind inside it), changes bodies, gains his 120,000 BP back and then he trains and achieves a giant power up, due to being a mutant.

I was actually thinking of it more in the vein of Ginyu taking his original body back post Tagoma using it to train with Freeza (or he could do it when Tagoma and Sorbet are on Earth briefly, that'd work too), and it being him we get to see fighting again, since I really want a Saiyaman/Ginyu pose-off...but the reverse you've mentioned works pretty well too, actually. Especially since I do want Tagoma to get more of his due one way or the other.

The summary says "Tagoma changes bodies with Ginyu and receives a huge power up", so apparently Tagoma will be the one fighting.

[Herms]

I do wonder if the summary is really trying to say that Ginyu powers up even further by switching bodies with Tagoma, but the way it's worded makes it seem like Tagoma's the one to get even stronger. Which is pretty strange.

[alakazam^]

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense because they specify Ginyu being turned into a frog and surviving, so if Tagoma changes bodies with him he'll end up being in the frog's body.

[Gyt Kaliba]

That's another reason why I'm kind of open to either possibility right now - that we'll be getting a stronger Ginyu fighting in what we know as Tagoma's body, or a stronger Tagoma fighting in what we knew as Ginyu's body (or even the frog, I guess, though that's pretty unlikely, as funny as it'd be). It sounds like it's pretty unclear right now, and it doesn't even seem certain if it's purposely being unclear or if it just is.

[Captain Space]

Maybe Ginyu changes bodies with one of the heroes and then (maybe by accident) switches with Tagoma? That would give Tagoma a stronger body, right?

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

On the whole Tagoma-Ginyu thing, we should know for sure within the next couple of weeks. If Freeza hasn't tossed him out of a window by the end of episode 20, then I think it'll be safe to assume... Regardless, I don't think I'll be able to believe it's real until I see an actual episode with these events unfolding before my eyes. The concept is just so bizarre; I'm not sure a fan could've come up with this one. Compared to previous episodes of 'Super', this seems so out of place. I mean, of all the ways you could expand this storyline...although, I suppose Tagoma was originally meant to fight Piccolo and Gohan, anyway. Personally, I think I'd prefer it if they had first form Freeza fight Piccolo instead, but that's very much a fan-boy idea.

[Araki]

I do wonder if the summary is really trying to say that Ginyu powers up even further by switching bodies with Tagoma, but the way it's worded makes it seem like Tagoma's the one to get even stronger. Which is pretty strange.

Maybe it means Tagoma's body getting stronger, when Ginyu takes over?

[JulieYBM]

Maybe Tagoma's got a genetic ability that allows him to add the maximum ki of others and add it to his own?

[UpFromTheSkies]

I thought Ginyu couldn't switch bodies when he's a frog?

[Noah]

I thought Ginyu couldn't switch bodies when he's a frog?

He did it with Bulma (anime only)

[Araki]

I thought Ginyu couldn't switch bodies when he's a frog?

The Bulma thing was in Kai, so i guess they can get away with that.

It would be funny if after all the brainstorm this turns out to be fake.

[UpFromTheSkies]

I thought Ginyu couldn't switch bodies when he's a frog?

The Bulma thing was in Kai, so i guess they can get away with that.

Bulma had to make a device so he could speak though.

[KentalSSJ6]

Figured Id get some clarification.

Just HOW involved is Toriyama with Super? I hear people say hes behind all the changes and I hear others say its all by Toei's writing staff. Is it one or the other? Or is there a middle ground where hes only working on the Universe 6 stuff?

[Hellspawn28]

He is writing the Universe 6 saga and that's all we know at the moment.

[Araki]

I thought Ginyu couldn't switch bodies when he's a frog?

The Bulma thing was in Kai, so i guess they can get away with that.

Bulma had to make a device so he could speak though.

He still can switch bodies, if we take the filler. If they want to, the rest is something they can work around in a similar way, just say the receiver in Tagoma's scouter translates his "language", for instance.

[Chuquita]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interes ... les/.95255
The cup noodles thing from episode 16 makes more sense now. ^^;

[Blade]

He is writing the Universe 6 saga and that's all we know at the moment.

We don't know that.

If the rest of the series so far is anything to go on, he is providing the rough story treatment and some character designs, but the episode-to-episode scripting is being handled by writing staff at Toei.

I like to think of it this way: Toriyama has provided the destination, but other people are charged with steering the ship.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interes ... les/.95255
The cup noodles thing from episode 16 makes more sense now. ^^;

Now that's something I can get behind. I don't eat a lot of instant ramen, I tend to cook it up all fancy from scratch, but I've got a feeling that I'll be able to come across some of this stuff at an Asian Supermarket I know. They tend to import quite a lot of product tie-in food and snacks as they know that Asian culture enthusiasts go nuts for them.

[sintzu]

Just HOW involved is Toriyama with Super?

He's involved in the story's draft and character designs.

Anything other then that is nothing more then speculation.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Figured Id get some clarification.

Just HOW involved is Toriyama with Super? I hear people say hes behind all the changes and I hear others say its all by Toei's writing staff. Is it one or the other? Or is there a middle ground where hes only working on the Universe 6 stuff?

When the series was first announced, it was said that he would provide the original drafts (like he did for the JSAT Special) & character designs for the series. From what he & Yamamuro said though, it sounds like he will do that after the Golden Freeza arc has ended, and the fact that they are using anime-only elements* so far seem to indicate this as well, but this is all speculation.

*We've seen Gregory and Mr. Satan's students & manager, who are anime-only characters, Kuririn is treated like joke with his "Why is it always me?!" phrase like in the anime but not in the manga, and Goku wasn't very disappointed about becoming Super Saiyan God with the help of others, like he doesn't have a problem borrowing the powers of others in the anime. Also, apparently Ginyu is still alive as a frog in the Earth, like in the anime.

[LuckyCat]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interes ... les/.95255
The cup noodles thing from episode 16 makes more sense now. ^^;

Good catch. If this helps DB: Super somehow get an animation bump, I'm all for it.