That's true but still, Vegeta okay'd the deaths of most of the human cast which Goku, Gohan and Krillin all know and/or saw yet they still treat him fine.Doctor. wrote:ekrolo2 wrote:Yeah, but this time it's a villain with a very direct connection to the heroes.Doctor. wrote:
He wouldn't be the first remorseless, irredeemable mass murderer to do that.
What writing decision would make you swear off the series?
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Good point. But it'd be enough to make me swear of the FUNi version all the same.Pokewhiz7 wrote:Not really a writing decision, ie something having to do with the story, and the Japanese version will always be there anyway.Lunatic Fringe wrote:Having Linda Young replace Chris Ayres.
I suppose I'd have to go with...nothing in all honesty. With retrospect, there's a lot of things that the series would do that would make me swear off the franchise with my current case of shonen fatigue but I don't think I could ever part ways from something I've cherished since my childhood.
Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie
Anything with Pan becoming the star, or the most powerful, or anything like that; for me is a no no.
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That would be nice really.Lunatic Fringe wrote:Having Linda Young replace Chris Ayres.
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie
You're done with Kai because of something they didn't take out, which was already in Z? Anyways, I'd say it's still a lot better, even if they didn't try as hard on it as the previous arcs.coola wrote:So far, the only series i dropped, and refuse to watch again is Dragon Ball Kai (To be more specific, i refuse to watch after SSJ Goku vs Freeza fight): It supposed to be way closer to manga then Z, i've tolerated Vegeta meeting SSJ Goku on Namek, cutting manga material for filler sake, but when i saw they kept Freeza and company in Hell bit, and how much filler the kept in Buu Saga, it was literally last straw, if Toei didn't even try at this point, i will stick to Z/Manga thank you.
As for Super, i like Dragon Ball going several years later after 100 episodes or so, if they won't go to Uub/Pan material after that, and still stick to Buu saga period of time, i might drop it.
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Sorry, should be more specific, i mean, i already own Z and watched it, and if Kai is just (sometimes) badly cut Z version, than i can stick to Z 

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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie
Another thing I thought of that would really just burn me on the franchise, may even make me drop it. Inclusion of memes into the franchise proper, every other episode Yamcha gets put into his 'killed by a saibaman' pose. Every episode Krillin gets 'owned', stuff like that. Humiliating or beating up on characters just to strike at one of the memes and get the meme fans to laugh. That may possibly make me drop the franchise or at least swear of new content.
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I also don't want to see characters get divorced or break up. Can you imagine if we had something like Bulma cheating on Vegeta by sleeping with Goku for a day, and then Chi Chi and Vegeta find out about it?
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie
Broly coming back in canon as a SS God.
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That would make things worst. For years, a lot of fans hate Young's voice for Freeza for sounding like a old lady and not having a proper male voice. Chris Ayres to me pulls off the role perfectly.Lord Exor wrote:That would be nice really.Lunatic Fringe wrote:Having Linda Young replace Chris Ayres.
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Turning Goku and Vegeta's rivalry into some Naruto/Sasuke thing where they've been fighting since the beginning of time and it's fate and destiny that they continue to fight.
Actually, any sort of ridiculous melodrama where it's revealed Goku is The Chosen One, or something.
Actually, any sort of ridiculous melodrama where it's revealed Goku is The Chosen One, or something.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.
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I've already very heavily toned down on Dragon Ball. My love for the series was heavily driven by nostalgia. Ever since all of the new material started coming out, that nostalgia was diluted. I am not particularly impressed by the new stuff. I feel like the series "jumped the shark" and it was fun while it lasted. I mean I have no interest in Super at all; the old me would be all over that thing.
If I had to attribute me phasing the series out of my life to any sort of writing, it would probably be the whole God thing. It turns out that all this time, being a God meant having a certain ki that Goku possesses. Oh, and not to be outdone, so does Vegeta. Turns out any Saiyan can. Then, the fact that GT is going the way of the Dodo didn't sit well with me because I felt it was an unnecessary move. Other than that, the writing is okay I guess. I would prefer if the series took itself seriously at just the right amount. It shouldn't be so heavy, but it also shouldn't be so lighthearted that it takes through stakes out of everything.
If I had to attribute me phasing the series out of my life to any sort of writing, it would probably be the whole God thing. It turns out that all this time, being a God meant having a certain ki that Goku possesses. Oh, and not to be outdone, so does Vegeta. Turns out any Saiyan can. Then, the fact that GT is going the way of the Dodo didn't sit well with me because I felt it was an unnecessary move. Other than that, the writing is okay I guess. I would prefer if the series took itself seriously at just the right amount. It shouldn't be so heavy, but it also shouldn't be so lighthearted that it takes through stakes out of everything.
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Even if done really cool?Retan wrote:Anything with Pan becoming the star, or the most powerful, or anything like that; for me is a no no.
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That'd be cool, but her character in GT left such an awful taste in my mouth that just looking at her makes my mind squirm with anxiety.Cetra wrote:Even if done really cool?Retan wrote:Anything with Pan becoming the star, or the most powerful, or anything like that; for me is a no no.
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie
If Toriyama wrote Pan then her character might be better. In GT, she was annoying and I felt like her character overstay her welcome. I do wish we got a father and daughter between Pan and Gohan. The two hardly interact with each other at all.
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I think people should forget about GT Pan because that's not how she would be written if she was aged up in Super.
She'd probably be completely different in terms of personality and design.
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Broly being the U7 5th fighter or U6 fighter. I would honestly throw anything DB related that i own and forget that i was a fan.
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Pretty much this. Thankfully that will never happen.Fionordequester wrote:Rape scenes, "edgy" political commentary, sex trafficking, pro-discriminatory attitudes towards minority groups, characters who act like they do on say, "Billions" (a new show coming out)...basically the kind of stuff that would make Akira cry if it was ever forced into his show.
That and drastically changing/retconing the characters or the direction of the story as a whole. Stories don't need that kinda change to be great, but my siblings insists it does because it's Dragon Ball (Try making sense of that).
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Yes! All of this!MozillaVulpix wrote:Turning Goku and Vegeta's rivalry into some Naruto/Sasuke thing where they've been fighting since the beginning of time and it's fate and destiny that they continue to fight.
Actually, any sort of ridiculous melodrama where it's revealed Goku is The Chosen One, or something.

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