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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:55 pm

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He wouldn't be the first remorseless, irredeemable mass murderer to do that.
Yeah, but this time it's a villain with a very direct connection to the heroes.
That's true but still, Vegeta okay'd the deaths of most of the human cast which Goku, Gohan and Krillin all know and/or saw yet they still treat him fine.
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:05 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:
Lunatic Fringe wrote:Having Linda Young replace Chris Ayres.
Not really a writing decision, ie something having to do with the story, and the Japanese version will always be there anyway.
Good point. But it'd be enough to make me swear of the FUNi version all the same.

I suppose I'd have to go with...nothing in all honesty. With retrospect, there's a lot of things that the series would do that would make me swear off the franchise with my current case of shonen fatigue but I don't think I could ever part ways from something I've cherished since my childhood.

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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by Retan » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:12 pm

Anything with Pan becoming the star, or the most powerful, or anything like that; for me is a no no.

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Post by Lord Exor » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:20 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Having Linda Young replace Chris Ayres.
That would be nice really.
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by Makai » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:31 pm

coola wrote:So far, the only series i dropped, and refuse to watch again is Dragon Ball Kai (To be more specific, i refuse to watch after SSJ Goku vs Freeza fight): It supposed to be way closer to manga then Z, i've tolerated Vegeta meeting SSJ Goku on Namek, cutting manga material for filler sake, but when i saw they kept Freeza and company in Hell bit, and how much filler the kept in Buu Saga, it was literally last straw, if Toei didn't even try at this point, i will stick to Z/Manga thank you.

As for Super, i like Dragon Ball going several years later after 100 episodes or so, if they won't go to Uub/Pan material after that, and still stick to Buu saga period of time, i might drop it.
You're done with Kai because of something they didn't take out, which was already in Z? Anyways, I'd say it's still a lot better, even if they didn't try as hard on it as the previous arcs.

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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by coola » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:43 pm

Sorry, should be more specific, i mean, i already own Z and watched it, and if Kai is just (sometimes) badly cut Z version, than i can stick to Z :)
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Post by voltlunok » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:38 pm

Another thing I thought of that would really just burn me on the franchise, may even make me drop it. Inclusion of memes into the franchise proper, every other episode Yamcha gets put into his 'killed by a saibaman' pose. Every episode Krillin gets 'owned', stuff like that. Humiliating or beating up on characters just to strike at one of the memes and get the meme fans to laugh. That may possibly make me drop the franchise or at least swear of new content.
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Post by precita » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:24 pm

I also don't want to see characters get divorced or break up. Can you imagine if we had something like Bulma cheating on Vegeta by sleeping with Goku for a day, and then Chi Chi and Vegeta find out about it?

This is the stuff bad fanfics are made of.

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Post by gohann » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:37 am

Broly coming back in canon as a SS God.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:33 pm

Lord Exor wrote:
Lunatic Fringe wrote:Having Linda Young replace Chris Ayres.
That would be nice really.
That would make things worst. For years, a lot of fans hate Young's voice for Freeza for sounding like a old lady and not having a proper male voice. Chris Ayres to me pulls off the role perfectly.
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Post by MozillaVulpix » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:44 pm

Turning Goku and Vegeta's rivalry into some Naruto/Sasuke thing where they've been fighting since the beginning of time and it's fate and destiny that they continue to fight.

Actually, any sort of ridiculous melodrama where it's revealed Goku is The Chosen One, or something.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by TheGreatness25 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:32 am

I've already very heavily toned down on Dragon Ball. My love for the series was heavily driven by nostalgia. Ever since all of the new material started coming out, that nostalgia was diluted. I am not particularly impressed by the new stuff. I feel like the series "jumped the shark" and it was fun while it lasted. I mean I have no interest in Super at all; the old me would be all over that thing.

If I had to attribute me phasing the series out of my life to any sort of writing, it would probably be the whole God thing. It turns out that all this time, being a God meant having a certain ki that Goku possesses. Oh, and not to be outdone, so does Vegeta. Turns out any Saiyan can. Then, the fact that GT is going the way of the Dodo didn't sit well with me because I felt it was an unnecessary move. Other than that, the writing is okay I guess. I would prefer if the series took itself seriously at just the right amount. It shouldn't be so heavy, but it also shouldn't be so lighthearted that it takes through stakes out of everything.

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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by Cetra » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:54 am

Retan wrote:Anything with Pan becoming the star, or the most powerful, or anything like that; for me is a no no.
Even if done really cool?
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:18 am

Cetra wrote:
Retan wrote:Anything with Pan becoming the star, or the most powerful, or anything like that; for me is a no no.
Even if done really cool?
That'd be cool, but her character in GT left such an awful taste in my mouth that just looking at her makes my mind squirm with anxiety.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:35 pm

If Toriyama wrote Pan then her character might be better. In GT, she was annoying and I felt like her character overstay her welcome. I do wish we got a father and daughter between Pan and Gohan. The two hardly interact with each other at all.
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Re: What writing decision would make you swear off the serie

Post by precita » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:47 pm

I think people should forget about GT Pan because that's not how she would be written if she was aged up in Super.

She'd probably be completely different in terms of personality and design.

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Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:58 pm

Broly being the U7 5th fighter or U6 fighter. I would honestly throw anything DB related that i own and forget that i was a fan.

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Post by TheUltimateVegito » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:10 pm

Fionordequester wrote:Rape scenes, "edgy" political commentary, sex trafficking, pro-discriminatory attitudes towards minority groups, characters who act like they do on say, "Billions" (a new show coming out)...basically the kind of stuff that would make Akira cry if it was ever forced into his show.
Pretty much this. Thankfully that will never happen.

That and drastically changing/retconing the characters or the direction of the story as a whole. Stories don't need that kinda change to be great, but my siblings insists it does because it's Dragon Ball (Try making sense of that).
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Post by TheUltimateVegito » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:22 pm

MozillaVulpix wrote:Turning Goku and Vegeta's rivalry into some Naruto/Sasuke thing where they've been fighting since the beginning of time and it's fate and destiny that they continue to fight.

Actually, any sort of ridiculous melodrama where it's revealed Goku is The Chosen One, or something.
Yes! All of this! :lol: One of the elements that made Goku such a great character is him being a lower class Saiyan, mainly because of his rivalry with Vegeta. Making him another "Chosen One" archetype would completely ruin that.
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