Tadayoshi Yamamuro and Dragon Ball GT Interview

[HECTOR4]

This is an excerpt from an interview with Yamamuro, at an event in Barcelona, 2015.

People are saying that Yamamuro said: "Super Saiyan 4 is more stronger than Super Saiyan God and Blue".

And this: "Super and Dragon Ball GT are connected".

Herms would be possible to translate this?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G78IRgJNJIY

[gregoryluis09]

This is an excerpt from an interview with Yamamuro, at an event in Barcelona, 2015.

People are saying that Yamamuro said: "Super Saiyan 4 is more stronger than Super Saiyan God and Blue".

And this: "Super and Dragon Ball GT are connected".

Herms would be possible to translate this?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G78IRgJNJIY

According to the portuguese subtitles in the video he says that: "According to the story, after the Boo saga he transform into SSJ God in the movie Ressurection F and following that, is GT with SSJ 4. When we are talking about a series (animated), it has to have a connection between Dragon Ball (Super) and GT but of course there are some charactiristics of a Spin-Off of having other things. The idea to continue the series was from Toei, not from Akira Toriyama."

[Herms]

There's no mention of strength, and no mention of DB Super.

According to the portuguese subtitles in the video he says that: "According to the story, after the Boo saga he transform into SSJ God in the movie Ressurection F and following that, is GT with SSJ 4. When we are talking about a series (animated), it has to have a connection between Dragon Ball (Super) and GT but of course there are some charactiristics of a Spin-Off of having other things. The idea to continue the series was from Toei, not from Akira Toriyama."

That's mostly accurate. Yamamuro simply says that story-wise Super Saiyan 4 "comes after" Super Saiyan God, because GT takes place later than RF. He says nothing at all about strength. Then he's asked about whether Toriyama has said GT isn't really a continuation of the DB series. Yamamuro responds that story-wise GT is connected, but it has some characteristics of a spin-off, and was not part of Toriyama's manga. There's no mention throughout throughout any of this of Super, just the film RF, GT, and the manga.

[Cetra]

That's mostly accurate. Yamamuro simply says that story-wise Super Saiyan 4 "comes after" Super Saiyan God, because GT takes place later than RF. He says nothing at all about strength. Then he's asked about whether Toriyama has said GT isn't really a continuation of the DB series. Yamamuro responds that story-wise GT is connected, but it has some characteristics of a spin-off, and was not part of Toriyama's manga. There's no mention throughout throughout any of this of Super, just the film RF, GT, and the manga.

True, true but seeing how they laughed about the question and the fact that those people wanted an answer they must have meant it in a certain context, otherwise those sentences would mean nothing at all other than what you have said and nothing else. So, of course time-wise GT comes after Super but how would that answer anything if not concluded by logic what could be possibly meant with that or the thing about the story connection. It is obvious that one event comes before the other one.
So if that really is supposed to be everything it is not really anything - and going by their laughing they very well knew what was meant. Also answering the question if something that was not made by Toriyama-sensei should even be bothered about with "to continue the series (and I suppose he means Super here, not GT which we already know of as Toei's idea) was also not Toriyama-sensei but Toei's idea" would also answer the question by implying that Super does not have more value than GT. If you know what I mean. It is true that it is not unequivocal but answering with no intention to at least give half of an appropriate answer? I do not know. It was satisfying enough for me, even if not unequivocal. The context/intention and my optimistic thinking of not everyone wants to avoid giving answers just does that for me.

[Hellspawn28]

GT is set 15 years after Buu, so logically GT is set after Super. However I still find it hard to believe that the two are still link with each other since Super has stuff that contradict things for GT. Even Xenoverse mentions GT being a different timeline and Xenoverse is a official game made by Namco Bandai (One of the license holders in Japan). Not to mention GT has not been relevant since the late 90's and most people didn't like it, why bother trying to connect with it. If something sucks then people are like "Let's pretend it never happens".

[ekrolo2]

Super barely works with the manga and has no chance with working with GT.

[Herms]

@Cetra: The questions asked of Yamamuro definitely have a fanboyish strength/canon edge to them, but Yamamuro in his responses dodges the issue by repeatedly emphasizing that he's only speaking "story wise". He says the story of GT is a continuation of the DB series, though it wasn't part of the original manga. Everyone knows that, but that's the point: Yamamuro isn't trying to settle fanboy debates here, though people are trying to get him to.

Everyone, keep in mind that Yamamuro is a character designer, animator, and (with RF) director. He has nothing to do with writing the story, and never has. Expecting him to give answers on strength and canon debates makes no sense.

[Cetra]

@Cetra: The questions asked of Yamamuro definitely have a fanboyish strength/canon edge to them, but Yamamuro in his responses dodges the issue by repeatedly emphasizing that he's only speaking "story wise". He says the story of GT is a continuation of the DB series, though it wasn't part of the original manga. Everyone knows that, but that's the point: Yamamuro isn't trying to settle fanboy debates here, though people are trying to get him to.

Everyone, keep in mind that Yamamuro is a character designer, animator, and (with RF) director. He has nothing to do with writing the story, and never has. Expecting him to give answers on strength and canon debates makes no sense.

I know what he was talking about but that is the thing, it seems so weird to give an answer by not answering for real thus making the entire thing useless. Also I was thinking Tadayoshi Yamamuro had a pretty high position when it comes to Dragon Ball. Apparently not. Also, as mentioned, I think mentioning who came up with the idea (I suppose that was meant to be about Super) was supposed to show something. But I probably understood less than you.

Maybe one day we will get to know more about it.

[B]

Yamamuro probably doesn't feel qualified to decipher or doesn't have any interest in deciphering who is stronger, though, and quite frankly, I'm not sure I would accept any answer he gave anyway. It makes sense he would dodge those questions.

[ArchedThunder]

Since Toriyama came back it seems like he has pretty much final say on things, so I imagine Yamamuro is just doing the best he can at answering a question that only Toriyama can.

[Bonus Stage]

@Cetra: The questions asked of Yamamuro definitely have a fanboyish strength/canon edge to them, but Yamamuro in his responses dodges the issue by repeatedly emphasizing that he's only speaking "story wise". He says the story of GT is a continuation of the DB series, though it wasn't part of the original manga. Everyone knows that, but that's the point: Yamamuro isn't trying to settle fanboy debates here, though people are trying to get him to.

Everyone, keep in mind that Yamamuro is a character designer, animator, and (with RF) director. He has nothing to do with writing the story, and never has. Expecting him to give answers on strength and canon debates makes no sense.

Is it possible to transcribe the exact words what Yamamuro said?

[JulieYBM]

@Cetra: The questions asked of Yamamuro definitely have a fanboyish strength/canon edge to them, but Yamamuro in his responses dodges the issue by repeatedly emphasizing that he's only speaking "story wise". He says the story of GT is a continuation of the DB series, though it wasn't part of the original manga. Everyone knows that, but that's the point: Yamamuro isn't trying to settle fanboy debates here, though people are trying to get him to.

Everyone, keep in mind that Yamamuro is a character designer, animator, and (with RF) director. He has nothing to do with writing the story, and never has. Expecting him to give answers on strength and canon debates makes no sense.

Well, not necessarily. As director of Fukkatsu no F he is partly involved in formulating the story. We already know that Toriyama's script does not match the finished product, either. Additional ideas, dialogue and the removal of dialogue does occur at the storyboarding stage, which Yamamuro completely handled himself. This is to say nothing of how a series director typically formulates the story and structure of a series with the series organizer, too.

[Herms]

Well, not necessarily. As director of Fukkatsu no F he is partly involved in formulating the story. We already know that Toriyama's script does not match the finished product, either. Additional ideas, dialogue and the removal of dialogue does occur at the storyboarding stage, which Yamamuro completely handled himself. This is to say nothing of how a series director typically formulates the story and structure of a series with the series organizer, too.

True, it's not like he has absolutely no influence on the story; I spoke too broadly. But I'd still consider him the wrong guy to ask about the canonical status of GT in comparison to Super, or the strength of GT characters vs Super/RF characters. Those aren't the areas of the story he has an influence on, as far as we know. And his answers reflect that he's not trying to lay down the law with those things.

[JulieYBM]

Well, not necessarily. As director of Fukkatsu no F he is partly involved in formulating the story. We already know that Toriyama's script does not match the finished product, either. Additional ideas, dialogue and the removal of dialogue does occur at the storyboarding stage, which Yamamuro completely handled himself. This is to say nothing of how a series director typically formulates the story and structure of a series with the series organizer, too.

True, it's not like he has absolutely no influence on the story; I spoke too broadly. But I'd still consider him the wrong guy to ask about the canonical status of GT in comparison to Super, or the strength of GT characters vs Super/RF characters. Those aren't the areas of the story he has an influence on, as far as we know.

Yeah, he's definitely the wrong guy to speak about Dragon Ball GT given he spent most of 1996 working on the Tenth Anniversary movie or being an animation supervisor.

[HECTOR4]

There's no mention of strength, and no mention of DB Super.

According to the portuguese subtitles in the video he says that: "According to the story, after the Boo saga he transform into SSJ God in the movie Ressurection F and following that, is GT with SSJ 4. When we are talking about a series (animated), it has to have a connection between Dragon Ball (Super) and GT but of course there are some charactiristics of a Spin-Off of having other things. The idea to continue the series was from Toei, not from Akira Toriyama."

That's mostly accurate. Yamamuro simply says that story-wise Super Saiyan 4 "comes after" Super Saiyan God, because GT takes place later than RF. He says nothing at all about strength. Then he's asked about whether Toriyama has said GT isn't really a continuation of the DB series. Yamamuro responds that story-wise GT is connected, but it has some characteristics of a spin-off, and was not part of Toriyama's manga. There's no mention throughout throughout any of this of Super, just the film RF, GT, and the manga.

Thank you very much Herms ^^

[successoroffate]

Not to mention GT has not been relevant since the late 90's and most people didn't like it, why bother trying to connect with it. If something sucks then people are like "Let's pretend it never happens".

GT not relevant since the 90s? The hate is real but that statement is not true. The fact some people hated it, does not make it less relevant.